Patong2 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Have seen and been amused by the chaos of overhead wiring around Phuket. Multiple wires all in a tangled birds nest and I wonder how the poor technician could ever work out which wire to work on. Love the sparking in wet weather and make sure I keep clear. But what puzzles me is why unused wires are not removed? Do they not have a copper content now? If they do, how come they aren't stolen and melted down for scrap as happens in other countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Patong2 said: Do they not have a copper content now? Unlikely much copper. Mostly fiberglass cable enforced with steel wire(s) and plastic coating. Not sure how easy it is to make money from them. 3 hours ago, Patong2 said: But what puzzles me is why unused wires are not removed? Good question. Too lazy, no responsible party, not paying off (it's mostly private companies)? In parts of cities there have been some cleanup campaigns over the years. And of course is by no way Phuket specific. Edited August 31, 2022 by KhunBENQ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 mai pen rai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AsianAtHeart Posted August 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Patong2 said: But what puzzles me is why unused wires are not removed? Do they not have a copper content now? Judging from what I have personally witnessed, it is less labor-intensive for them to simply install a new fiber-optic line than to try to trace the old one. They'll cut the old one out of the house into which it had been installed, and replace the in-home cable with a new line, freshly added to the cable bundle on the poles outside. No, not much copper, and apparently the fiber is cheap enough that they have no incentive to try to trace the old lines. Maybe they assume the old lines will be damaged in a high enough percentage of cases to make it not worth the effort anyhow. But they certainly put no effort into removing unused lines from the public utility poles. It basically boils down to lack of organization or planning; and we might add technical expertise and/or equipment to the list where such equipment could have assisted in checking the lines. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunPer Posted August 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Patong2 said: But what puzzles me is why unused wires are not removed? Do they not have a copper content now? How do you know what's in use and not, various private companies own those wires that are not power. Easier just to leave them and drag a new line... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 If they really want they can clean up unused lines. Watched this myself in Pattaya. Piles of cut down fiber cables on the street and a huge pile at some shophouse (maybe a scrap business). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) Pictures from August 2020 in Pattaya. Edited August 31, 2022 by KhunBENQ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foreverlomsak Posted August 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Patong2 said: Multiple wires all in a tangled birds nest and I wonder how the poor technician could ever work out which wire to work on. he doesn't he just runs in a new wire is easier 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 No load test no stay wires when a pickup crashes into a pole the twang can bring poles down far from the crash as I have seen many years ago ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phuket Pete Posted August 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 A clear sign of a third world country ! Thailand will always look scruffy, dirty and poor whilst this mess exists and it will never attract or keep the 'quality tourists' it so desires. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Luckily, when the predicted great flood comes it will thoroughly clean the cables buried underground thus far which should result in faster broadband........???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 10 hours ago, Patong2 said: But what puzzles me is why unused wires are not removed? I have no answer. But I have a story from long time ago from refineries. It seems often they have unused pipes. But nobody if anybody needs a new pipe then they add a new pipe and don't use one of those unused pipes. Why? Because they are not 100% sure if those apparently unused pipes are really unused. And to avoid any problems they don't touch those pipes. I wouldn't be surprised if the same principle is not used with electrical wires. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Laziness, which holds Thailand back more than any other factor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 19 hours ago, Patong2 said: Do they not have a copper content now? Aluminium is normally used never copper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 15 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said: No, not much copper, and apparently the fiber is cheap enough t Fibre is for Internet, ALUMINIUM is for power. copper is never used by the power companies and fibre is not for Power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianAtHeart Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, brianthainess said: Fibre is for Internet, ALUMINIUM is for power. copper is never used by the power companies and fibre is not for Power. Nobody said the fibre was for power. We're not talking about power lines here. The tangles of cables on the power poles are for communications, not power--all low-voltage (or no voltage in the case of fibre): telephone, cable company, and internet. The high-voltage power lines stay at the top of the poles, and are not usually a part of the tangles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDave Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 A lot of this mass of cable pre-dates fiber internet - it's been like this for a couple of decades. I believe a considerable amount is twisted pair copper, but as previously mentioned it's probably too difficult to determine which wires are in use and which aren't, so they're just left hanging there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechbum Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: I have no answer. But I have a story from long time ago from refineries. It seems often they have unused pipes. But nobody if anybody needs a new pipe then they add a new pipe and don't use one of those unused pipes. Why? Because they are not 100% sure if those apparently unused pipes are really unused. And to avoid any problems they don't touch those pipes. I wouldn't be surprised if the same principle is not used with electrical wires. Sounds like you've been on the pipe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDog Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 On 8/31/2022 at 4:24 PM, AsianAtHeart said: It basically boils down to lack of organization or planning; and we might add technical expertise and/or equipment There you have the hard kernel of many of the Kingdom's problems. Cultural aversion to forethought in any activity or endeavor : you called it planning. Like the road carnage, this will never change because there is zero will among the population to do so. Thailand has doomed itself to third world status forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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