Scott Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 BUSAN, South Korea, Sept 23 (Reuters) - A U.S. aircraft carrier arrived in South Korea on Friday for the first time in about four years, set to join other military vessels in a show of force intended to send a message to North Korea. USS Ronald Reagan and ships from its accompanying strike group docked at a naval base in the southern port city of Busan ahead of joint drills with South Korean forces. Its arrival marks the most significant deployment yet under a new push to have more U.S. "strategic assets" operate in the area to deter North Korea. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-aircraft-carrier-arrives-south-korea-warning-north-korea-2022-09-22/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mania Posted September 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) Quote U.S. aircraft carrier arrives in South Korea as warning to North Warning? More like provoke/taunt The problem with this war mongering current government is they are doing this on so many fronts. It is as if the Military Industrial Complex needs a boost so bad via war that this government owes them the favor of providing it. Sadly it looks daily more & more like they will get what they want & throw this world into WWIII Because there is nothing calming about the current crop. Instead they throw fuel constantly on every spark they find. Edited September 23, 2022 by mania 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted September 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 Another inexcusable failure by the biden administration. He was handed by his predecessor an historic working relationship with North Korea and he completely and utterly blew it. This failure makes the world a much more dangerous place. I find it disturbing that a guy who appears lost and bewildered on stage is making provocative moves like this. Actually no, it's terrifying not disturbing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, mania said: Sadly it looks daily more & more like they will get what they want & throw this world into WWIII Did'nt WWIII start in 2019 when a certain country unleashed Covid 19 on the world that has so far killed more than 6.5 million people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Should the West bow to Emperor Xi, Czar Putin and Rocket Man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Credo Posted September 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Another inexcusable failure by the biden administration. He was handed by his predecessor an historic working relationship with North Korea and he completely and utterly blew it. This failure makes the world a much more dangerous place. I find it disturbing that a guy who appears lost and bewildered on stage is making provocative moves like this. Actually no, it's terrifying not disturbing. Trump made a clear signal to both Putin and Kim. With Putin it was his intention to withdraw from NATO if he won a 2nd term. With Kim it was the withdrawal from the military agreement. Even during his time in office, he wanted to withdraw all troops from South Korea. Had Trump remained in power, we would be seeing a vastly different world and I don't believe it would have been a better one.https://www.stripes.com/theaters/asia_pacific/2022-05-10/defense-secretary-mark-esper-memoir-president-trump-south-korea-troops-5954121.html 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mania Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, 2baht said: Should the West bow to Emperor Xi, Czar Putin and Rocket Man? No of course never but John Quincy Adams, Secretary of State said it best about America.. "But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy" I have attached his speech which is short & worth the read IMHO 1821secofstateJQAdmas.pdf Edited September 24, 2022 by mania 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, mania said: Warning? More like provoke/taunt The problem with this war mongering current government is they are doing this on so many fronts. It is as if the Military Industrial Complex needs a boost so bad via war that this government owes them the favor of providing it. Sadly it looks daily more & more like they will get what they want & throw this world into WWIII Because there is nothing calming about the current crop. Instead they throw fuel constantly on every spark they find. Reversing the groveling and kowtowing of the previous administration is not ‘war mongering’. Being pally with tyrants and saluting their generals has only emboldened America’s adversaries. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Another inexcusable failure by the biden administration. He was handed by his predecessor an historic working relationship with North Korea and he completely and utterly blew it. This failure makes the world a much more dangerous place. I find it disturbing that a guy who appears lost and bewildered on stage is making provocative moves like this. Actually no, it's terrifying not disturbing. No he wasn’t. He was handed an emboldened N. Korea with a leader that had been provided positive propaganda material while continuing with it’s military and nuclear ambitions. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, mania said: No of course never but John Quincy Adams, Secretary of State said it best about America.. "But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy" I have attached his speech which is short & worth the read IMHO 1821secofstateJQAdmas.pdf 15.4 kB · 1 download Perhaps that speech could be printed on large notice boards to use as protection for American and its allies to ward off the bombs, bullets and missiles of tyrants who are repeatedly stating their military intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Another inexcusable failure by the biden administration. He was handed by his predecessor an historic working relationship with North Korea and he completely and utterly blew it. This failure makes the world a much more dangerous place. I find it disturbing that a guy who appears lost and bewildered on stage is making provocative moves like this. Actually no, it's terrifying not disturbing. This is false, Trump's outreach to North Korea had utterly failed by the time he left office. The Illusion of Peace and the Failure of U.S.-North Korea Summitry On June 12, North Korea’s Foreign Minister Ri Son-gwon issued a highly unusual commemorative statement to mark the second anniversary of the first-ever meeting of U.S. President Donald J. Trump and North Korea’s leader Kim Jong Un. The statement laid bare North Korea’s disappointments, rejected Trump’s declarations of success in his diplomacy with North Korea, and predicted an enduring confrontation backed by North Korea’s nuclear development as the main pillar of deterrence against U.S. hostility. The statement reiterated months of North Korean expressions of frustration and underscored the fragility of the U.S.-North Korea relationship and the risks that a renewed escalation of tensions could bring. https://www.cfr.org/blog/illusion-peace-and-failure-us-north-korea-summitry-0 North Korea blows up joint liaison office with South in Kaesong Published 16 June 2020 North Korea has blown up a joint liaison office with the South near the North's border town of Kaesong. The move comes just hours after the North renewed threats of military action at the Korean border. The site was opened in 2018 to help the Koreas - officially in a state of war - to communicate. It had been empty since January due to Covid-19 restrictions. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53060620 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 18 hours ago, mania said: Warning? More like provoke/taunt The problem with this war mongering current government is they are doing this on so many fronts. It is as if the Military Industrial Complex needs a boost so bad via war that this government owes them the favor of providing it. Sadly it looks daily more & more like they will get what they want & throw this world into WWIII Because there is nothing calming about the current crop. Instead they throw fuel constantly on every spark they find. Right. It's not like North Korea is building nuclear weapons, testing ICBM's, threatening its neighbor, or has ever attacked anyone. Oh, wait..... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 20 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Reversing the groveling and kowtowing of the previous administration is not ‘war mongering’. Being pally with tyrants and saluting their generals has only emboldened America’s adversaries. The usual need to deflect to previous admins has nothing to do with now This is war mongering pure & simple Example #1 Giving Billions in weapons to Ukraine has nothing to do with so called caring for democracy as they could care less for the Ukrainians instead it is selling weapons albeit once again on US taxpayers dime & then given freely to the Ukranians to Taunt Russia & Let Ukraine fight a proxy war Example #2 The so called love of Taiwan & helping to protect their freedoms? Right... first House Speaker to visit Taiwan since Newt Gingrich in 1997 So instead just once again selling/promising weapons/support again while US taxpayers pay & to Taunt China Example #3 now this silly show in South Korea to what? Taunt N Korea is all America's only adversaries these days are in the White House & trying their best to start a WWIII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 3 hours ago, heybruce said: Right. It's not like North Korea is building nuclear weapons, testing ICBM's, threatening its neighbor, or has ever attacked anyone. Oh, wait..... So we should also attack Israel or thats ok? Cut the nonsense we are not the police of this world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 hours ago, mania said: The usual need to deflect to previous admins has nothing to do with now This is war mongering pure & simple Example #1 Giving Billions in weapons to Ukraine has nothing to do with so called caring for democracy as they could care less for the Ukrainians instead it is selling weapons albeit once again on US taxpayers dime & then given freely to the Ukranians to Taunt Russia & Let Ukraine fight a proxy war Example #2 The so called love of Taiwan & helping to protect their freedoms? Right... first House Speaker to visit Taiwan since Newt Gingrich in 1997 So instead just once again selling/promising weapons/support again while US taxpayers pay & to Taunt China Example #3 now this silly show in South Korea to what? Taunt N Korea is all America's only adversaries these days are in the White House & trying their best to start a WWIII Out of curiosity. Where do you get your news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 hours ago, mania said: So we should also attack Israel or thats ok? Cut the nonsense we are not the police of this world The US has in the past tried isolationism, how did that work out? What kind of world does Putin have in mind? How about Kim, what do you think he wants? Or the Chinese, what are their ambitions? And since you dragged Israel into this (I wonder why), should the Israeli’s sit on their hands while history repeats itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat is a type of crazy Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) On 9/24/2022 at 10:20 AM, mania said: No of course never but John Quincy Adams, Secretary of State said it best about America.. "But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy" I have attached his speech which is short & worth the read IMHO 1821secofstateJQAdmas.pdf 15.4 kB · 2 downloads 3 hours ago, mania said: So we should also attack Israel or thats ok? Cut the nonsense we are not the police of this world North Korea is not simply a country with a different political approach or different world view - it is a obviously controlled by a dictator who can only keep his people, and the world, at bay by threatening death and destruction, including a nuclear arsenal that can strike harder and further, with each year that passes. One needs to be proactive. In Adams times, we are talking about attacks by wooden war ships with cannon balls, and soldiers with bayonets. Not ballistic missiles sent from 15,000 kilometres away. Edited September 25, 2022 by Fat is a type of crazy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 7 hours ago, mania said: So we should also attack Israel or thats ok? Cut the nonsense we are not the police of this world Why would we attack anyone? I also think that Israel would not threaten to nuke its neighbors if US ships visited neighboring countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Texas St will be in full swing. A few sailors will find Green St. Hope the sailors have a good port visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Back when DT went to N. Korean there were clues that his real motivation was to open a resort on the NK coast. Dig through archives and you'll find his hints. Wouldn't it be something if he ended up in exile there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted September 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) On 9/25/2022 at 3:51 AM, mania said: The usual need to deflect to previous admins has nothing to do with now This is war mongering pure & simple Example #1 Giving Billions in weapons to Ukraine has nothing to do with so called caring for democracy as they could care less for the Ukrainians instead it is selling weapons albeit once again on US taxpayers dime & then given freely to the Ukranians to Taunt Russia & Let Ukraine fight a proxy war Example #2 The so called love of Taiwan & helping to protect their freedoms? Right... first House Speaker to visit Taiwan since Newt Gingrich in 1997 So instead just once again selling/promising weapons/support again while US taxpayers pay & to Taunt China Example #3 now this silly show in South Korea to what? Taunt N Korea is all America's only adversaries these days are in the White House & trying their best to start a WWIII Example #1: Russia invaded Ukraine, an independent democratic sovereign state. Example#2: China is actively threatening to invade Taiwan, which is a de-facto independent democratic sovereign state. Example #3: North Korea is developing and testing ballistic missiles (another launch yesterday) which threaten South Korea and Japan, both independent democratic sovereign states. I might be naive, unsophisticated in international relations, but I reckon there is a pattern there... You think it is all down to American war mongering? Edited September 26, 2022 by herfiehandbag 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 7 hours ago, bendejo said: Back when DT went to N. Korean there were clues that his real motivation was to open a resort on the NK coast. Dig through archives and you'll find his hints. Wouldn't it be something if he ended up in exile there? Haven't the North Koreans suffered enough? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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