placeholder 37083 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Cambridge scientists have shown that a widely-used drug to treat liver disease can prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection or reduce COVID-19 severity The drug has minimal side effects, is cheap, and should protect against future variants of SARS-CoV-2 Their unique study involved ‘mini-organs’, animal research, donated human organs, volunteers, and patients https://scitechdaily.com/off-patent-liver-disease-drug-could-stop-covid-19-and-protect-against-future-variants/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4dang 861 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 How cheap? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerDo2 2737 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 "Could" and "Should". Not very reassuring comments. Sounds like a snake oil salesperson trying to make money off the trusting public. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder 37083 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 5 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said: "Could" and "Should". Not very reassuring comments. Sounds like a snake oil salesperson trying to make money off the trusting public. Really? It's generic.. Obviously, what's going on here is that this runs contrary to the belief of some that Big Pharma is in control of the agenda. One of the most important medications used against covid are generic steroids. Not much money to be made there either. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerDo2 2737 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Just now, placeholder said: Really? It's generic.. Obviously, what's going on here is that this runs contrary to the belief of some that Big Pharma is in control of the agenda. One of the most important medications used against covid are generic steroids. Not much money to be made there either. "One of the most important medications used against covid are generic steroids."..... proof please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder 37083 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, HuskerDo2 said: "One of the most important medications used against covid are generic steroids."..... proof please. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210629/How-does-dexamethasone-therapy-in-COVID-19.aspx Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4dang 861 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Harvoni? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok 51300 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 There are no clinical trials done so no proof yet. But I dont see how this can be cheaper then a covid shot. Those shots are not expensive and help for over a longer period. So the cost thing you mention seems strange. Unless your talking about clearing it out after a infection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder 37083 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, robblok said: There are no clinical trials done so no proof yet. But I dont see how this can be cheaper then a covid shot. Those shots are not expensive and help for over a longer period. So the cost thing you mention seems strange. Unless your talking about clearing it out after a infection. Well, clinical trials are going to be a lot more quickly completed because the drug has already been approved for other uses. And some people who get vaccinated still fall seriously il. And, of course, there are those afflicted with lemming genes who refuse to be vaccinated. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder 37083 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, d4dang said: Harvoni? Good question. I was wondering why the article didn't specify. Legal reasons? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok 51300 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, placeholder said: Well, clinical trials are going to be a lot more quickly completed because the drug has already been approved for other uses. And some people who get vaccinated still fall seriously il. And, of course, there are those afflicted with lemming genes who refuse to be vaccinated. So you see it as treatment not protection because if used for protection it will be more expensive then vaccinations. I would love it if they complete the clinical trials and any medicine that helps against covid is great. Minimal side effects ? Not that i worry that much but if you want protection then taking it long term might be a problem. Anyway what I am saying is that its great but again no miracle. Lets hope it really works anything that helps treatment is great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder 37083 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, d4dang said: Harvoni? No. I looked at the link to the research It's "the off-patent drug ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA)" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05594-0 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder 37083 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, robblok said: So you see it as treatment not protection because if used for protection it will be more expensive then vaccinations. I would love it if they complete the clinical trials and any medicine that helps against covid is great. Minimal side effects ? Not that i worry that much but if you want protection then taking it long term might be a problem. Anyway what I am saying is that its great but again no miracle. Lets hope it really works anything that helps treatment is great. As the article pointed out, if a new variant arises that is resistant to current vaccines, it would be useful. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder 37083 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 6 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said: "Could" and "Should". Not very reassuring comments. Sounds like a snake oil salesperson trying to make money off the trusting public. I think you're confusing this medication with ivermectin. Or maybe hydroxychloroquine? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok 51300 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 2 hours ago, placeholder said: As the article pointed out, if a new variant arises that is resistant to current vaccines, it would be useful. It could be useful as of now no clinical trials have been done so nothing has been proven. Not sure why you act like its a done deal when no real research has been done. I hope your right. Who does not want a generic medicine with little side effects. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron 22890 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, robblok said: It could be useful as of now no clinical trials have been done so nothing has been proven. Not sure why you act like its a done deal when no real research has been done. I hope your right. Who does not want a generic medicine with little side effects. The drug itself has long since been tested and is evidently relative safe. It's effectiveness against covid is sill a clinical observation but there would seem to be little or no impediment to it's use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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