snoop1130 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Move Forward party leader Pita Limjaroenrat has assured leaders of local administrative organisations that his future government’s decentralisation policy will not be extreme but, with public participation, the prime objective is to bring about prosperity in rural areas. Pita met with leaders of the Provincial Administrative Organisations, Tambon Administrative Organizations and the National Municipal Association of Thailand today (Thursday), to brief them about the coalition’s decentralisation policies and to hear their opinions. He likened local administrative organisations to the base of a pyramid, which is in close contact with the people and, therefore, should be familiar with the problems. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/pita-says-decentralisation-is-intended-to-bring-prosperity-to-rural-areas/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2023-06-01 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted June 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2023 Get rid of corruption and it might stand a chance but good luck with that one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deez Posted June 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2023 10 hours ago, snoop1130 said: decentralisation policy This would be a huge first step 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 9 hours ago, dinsdale said: Get rid of corruption and it might stand a chance but good luck with that one. I will say the boy wonder has filled his plate recently and an extremely hard tow and rough road ahead. The forces that oppose are always in the wings. Good luck to him and associates. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 A good example would be repair the enormous potholes at the Imo end of soi 88 HH as the pyramid has already fallen in ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 9 hours ago, dinsdale said: Get rid of corruption and it might stand a chance but good luck with that one. Base of a pyramid or ponzi scheme... decentralisation is great if you can trust the local officials. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 52 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Base of a pyramid or ponzi scheme... decentralisation is great if you can trust the local officials. So it appears that this reform gig is required throughout the provinces, more so than that of the national level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, zzaa09 said: So it appears that this reform gig is required throughout the provinces, more so than that of the national level. I guess they have to start in the provinces, then work up to the big guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 how does prosperity come from government? The rural areas I know have good streets and internet....That is all that is needed and as far away the government busybody is away as better....so move everything to Bangkok and leave the working people alone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumbuie Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 7 hours ago, hotchilli said: Base of a pyramid or ponzi scheme... decentralisation is great if you can trust the local officials. The answer is to make them elected by and accountable to local people. The first layer of government in Sweden is the kommun which is around 10,000 (rural) to 30,000 ( Stockholm etc). Small enough that you may meet a good percentage of them as you go about your daily life. Your kids may know their kids. Your parents may know theirs. You maybe went to school with them, or your cousin's did... it's small enough that you can't get away with things so easily. Small enough that it's not a huge responsibility. Small enough that it's a good training and a way of both you and the electors finding out if you'd make a good politician. The kommuns in a region share local taxes; they also share experience and best practice with each other; as do the regions. There are over 200 regions (for a population of under 10 million). So most of what a centralised government has to deal with is devolved and the national government only has to deal with national stuff. It's called a distributed network ( like the internet itself) and is considerably more resilient than a centralised top-down system. Very hard to mount a coup against a distributed network, too. It's not perfect, but it is on the whole better. Hope he succeeds. Changing systems is heartbreakingly hard work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Drumbuie said: The answer is to make them elected by and accountable to local people. The first layer of government in Sweden is the kommun which is around 10,000 (rural) to 30,000 ( Stockholm etc). Small enough that you may meet a good percentage of them as you go about your daily life. Your kids may know their kids. Your parents may know theirs. You maybe went to school with them, or your cousin's did... it's small enough that you can't get away with things so easily. Small enough that it's not a huge responsibility. Small enough that it's a good training and a way of both you and the electors finding out if you'd make a good politician. The kommuns in a region share local taxes; they also share experience and best practice with each other; as do the regions. There are over 200 regions (for a population of under 10 million). So most of what a centralised government has to deal with is devolved and the national government only has to deal with national stuff. It's called a distributed network ( like the internet itself) and is considerably more resilient than a centralised top-down system. Very hard to mount a coup against a distributed network, too. It's not perfect, but it is on the whole better. Hope he succeeds. Changing systems is heartbreakingly hard work. Sounds like a very good system... and like you say, local officials are known and cannot get away with anything. Would be a good corruption killer in-itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Drumbuie said: The answer is to make them elected by and accountable to local people. The first layer of government in Sweden is the kommun which is around 10,000 (rural) to 30,000 ( Stockholm etc). Small enough that you may meet a good percentage of them as you go about your daily life. Your kids may know their kids. Your parents may know theirs. You maybe went to school with them, or your cousin's did... it's small enough that you can't get away with things so easily. Small enough that it's not a huge responsibility. Small enough that it's a good training and a way of both you and the electors finding out if you'd make a good politician. The kommuns in a region share local taxes; they also share experience and best practice with each other; as do the regions. There are over 200 regions (for a population of under 10 million). So most of what a centralised government has to deal with is devolved and the national government only has to deal with national stuff. It's called a distributed network ( like the internet itself) and is considerably more resilient than a centralised top-down system. Very hard to mount a coup against a distributed network, too. It's not perfect, but it is on the whole better. Hope he succeeds. Changing systems is heartbreakingly hard work. Sounds good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 20 hours ago, dinsdale said: Get rid of corruption and it might stand a chance but good luck with that one. Supposedly this is the main reason for so much poverty and inequality in Thailand. I wonder why he is not stating it explicitly. Perhaps he plans to address it, but it doesn't want to say that that is the main thing he is going after? If not, is he really going to make much difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, BangkokReady said: Supposedly this is the main reason for so much poverty and inequality in Thailand. I wonder why he is not stating it explicitly. Perhaps he plans to address it, but it doesn't want to say that that is the main thing he is going after? If not, is he really going to make much difference? These are indeed fair points you make but I'm not sure supposedly is the best word. An example is Thai public education which is dismal yet has the highest budget. Pockets are filled all the way down the line. As for addressing corruption it's probably best at this stage to keep any detailed policies in this direction under wraps. Will things change? I believe the majority of Thai people are hoping so. The election result is a clear indication of this. Every single Thai person old enough to understand corruption knows corruption has been a scurge on this county and probably more importantly on their wallets. Corruption, however, is endemic in this country. Changing this I think is almost impossible. It's been and is a way of life here. How do you clean broom an entire system based on corruption? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, dinsdale said: These are indeed fair points you make but I'm not sure supposedly is the best word. An example is Thai public education which is dismal yet has the highest budget. Pockets are filled all the way down the line. As for addressing corruption it's probably best at this stage to keep any detailed policies in this direction under wraps. Will things change? I believe the majority of Thai people are hoping so. The election result is a clear indication of this. Every single Thai person old enough to understand corruption knows corruption has been a scurge on this county and probably more importantly on their wallets. Corruption, however, is endemic in this country. Changing this I think is almost impossible. It's been and is a way of life here. How do you clean broom an entire system based on corruption? Easier to guess that he and his cohorts will be swallowed up despite their best intentions. It's far too deep to cleanse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, zzaa09 said: Easier to guess that he and his cohorts will be swallowed up despite their best intentions. It's far too deep to cleanse. Sad but possibly true. You can't stop a rotten fruit from rotting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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