Popular Post onthedarkside Posted June 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2023 The Department of Justice is preparing to ask a Washington, DC grand jury to indict former president Donald Trump for violating the Espionage Act and for obstruction of justice as soon as Thursday, adding further weight to the legal baggage facing Mr Trump as he campaigns for his party’s nomination in next year’s presidential election. The Independent has learned that prosecutors are ready to ask grand jurors to approve an indictment against Mr Trump for violating a portion of the US criminal code known as Section 793, which prohibits “gathering, transmitting or losing” any “information respecting the national defence”. The use of Section 793, which does not make reference to classified information, is understood to be a strategic decision by prosecutors that has been made to short-circuit Mr Trump’s ability to claim that he used his authority as president to declassify documents he removed from the White House and kept at his Palm Beach, Florida property long after his term expired on 20 January 2021. READ MORE https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-indictment-espionage-prosecution-charges-b2353397.html 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted June 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2023 And about time too. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Popcorn at the ready!get her done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted June 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2023 Trump received a target letter. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/07/trump-notified-that-he-is-the-target-of-an-ongoing-criminal-investigation-00100920 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 Much ado about nothing. Witch hunt indeed. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Much ado about nothing. Witch hunt indeed. How anyone can still maintain that is beyond me and all reasonable reasoning. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Much ado about nothing. Witch hunt indeed. Are you kidding? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, stevenl said: How anyone can still maintain that is beyond me and all reasonable reasoning. Sounds like a typical anti-Trump supremacist reply. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Sounds like a typical anti-Trump supremacist reply. Naw, with your claims here you're proving your earlier statement you're not following the news to be correct. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) Opinion What to look for if Trump is indicted by the DOJ We believe that the rule of law requires that Trump be charged, based on the wealth of publicly available facts and the history of the Justice Department charging people who did far less. Just last week, a former Army lieutenant colonel was sentenced to three years in prison for illegal retention of classified documents. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/07/justice-department-trump-indictment-possible-details/ no paywall https://archive.is/xQbxS Edited June 8, 2023 by jerrymahoney 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 48 minutes ago, stevenl said: How anyone can still maintain that is beyond me and all reasonable reasoning. It's a cult. That explains it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Those are some really big boy charges! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 Sometimes witches are old men with orange facepaint. No need to hunt, they knew where he was all along. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Neeranam said: Much ado about nothing. Witch hunt indeed. Sure: Section 793, better known as the Espionage Act, is part of a World War I-era law that criminalizes the mishandling of closely-held information related to the national defense that could be used to harm the United States or to aid a foreign adversary. A conviction carries a prison sentence of up to 10 years per violation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said: Just last week, a former Army lieutenant colonel was sentenced to three years in prison for illegal retention of classified documents. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/07/justice-department-trump-indictment-possible-details/ He wasn't POTUS! Look at Nixon, he did much worse, but there wasn't such a witch hunt back then. Look at what baby Bush did - international war crimes - yet never prosecuted. Edited June 8, 2023 by Neeranam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Can you hear that sound? It is the faux screaming of the Trump supporters and the MAGA supporters crying that it is all fake and Trump can do and never has done anything wrong or illegal in his whole life. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: He wasn't POTUS! Look at Nixon, he did much worse, but there wasn't such a witch hunt back then. Look at what baby Bush did - international war crimes - yet never prosecuted. Nixon received a Presidential pardon. Trump has not. To my knowledge Bush was never formally charged. Trump has been charged with some crimes and probably has more coming. Why are you so keen on making past Presidents above the law? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: He wasn't POTUS! Look at Nixon, he did much worse, but there wasn't such a witch hunt back then. Look at what baby Bush did - international war crimes - yet never prosecuted. Do you know any US history? Are you unaware that President Ford pardoned Nixon almost immediately upon taking office? you may enjoy this article, with sub title "Could Trump at least stop using the same words Nixon did?" Nixon & Trump inadvertent paraellels The USA is not part of the International Criminal Court & which country would be willing to arrest and extradite Bush2 if he happened to be on their territory? Kissinger is probably the biggest international criminal involved in so many crimes, yet was given congrats other day on hitting 100. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Neeranam said: Sounds like a typical anti-Trump supremacist reply. what? please explain what is an "anti-trump supremacist". Do we think we are "supreme" because we hate Trump? Is that your line of slur? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, billd766 said: Can you hear that sound? It is the faux screaming of the Trump supporters and the MAGA supporters crying that it is all fake and Trump can do and never has done anything wrong or illegal in his whole life. Nah, it sounds like a popping sound to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Neeranam said: Much ado about nothing. Witch hunt indeed. The beauty of this case, is that It's purely factual: - he took presidential records (documents), some of them related to national defence, (so two problems: presidential records+related to national defense) - he did it intentionally (his own words), - kept them - when asked to give back, he failed to give them all (that's when his legal troubles really started), - part of the documents have been hidden (likely on his demand), and found later during the "raid", - his lawyer signed a document lying about it (likely on his demand) - he is likely to have shown documents related to national defence to unaccredited persons. Note: when I write "likely", it means that Grand Juries have collected evidence and testimonies about it. If they decide to indict him, it would mean that testimonies and evidence have confirmed it. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 JHC just do it already. If you can............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Neeranam said: He wasn't POTUS! Look at Nixon, he did much worse, but there wasn't such a witch hunt back then. Look at what baby Bush did - international war crimes - yet never prosecuted. We don’t yet know what Trump did, so on what basis did Nixon do worse? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: JHC just do it already. If you can............ Please no more embarrassing admissions of impotence. Edited June 8, 2023 by Chomper Higgot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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