Trump leading?

[CanadaSam]

I don't know if we're in a world full of idiots, or exactly what's going on, I believe IMMIGRANTS are voting for Trump, when he wants to kick them all out?

 

Is it just me, or is the general population stupid as s***?

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/22/politics/analysis-trump-biden-immigrants/index.html

[charleskerins]

5 minutes ago, CanadaSam said:

I don't know if we're in a world full of idiots, or exactly what's going on, I believe IMMIGRANTS are voting for Trump, when he wants to kick them all out?

 

Is it just me, or is the general population stupid as s***?

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/22/politics/analysis-trump-biden-immigrants/index.html

Hispanics lean towards Fascism  want to be accepted .   Self loathing in some cases.

[Celsius]

They try to stop him but they can not.

[WhatMeWorry]

MAGA 2024

[mfd101]

Anything can happen, and some of it will.

[TheAppletons]

You may be underestimating the number of people who went through the process of legally emigrating to the USA who hate the fact that others are being allowed to cross the border illegally.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

17 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

You may be underestimating the number of people who went through the process of legally emigrating to the USA who hate the fact that others are being allowed to cross the border illegally.

I think that is definitely the case - those who legally emigrated are extremely annoyed about all the illegals crossing ad-hoc. Not only because they went thr4ough the system and paid for the privilege of being accepted into USA, but because the vast majority of the illegals would be rejected as undesirable to be allowed to enter the country. Same thing is being played out all over Europe as more ands more people realise that the woke progressive 'inclusive no-borders agenda' is a load of BS and is undermining the morals and values of their society.  When Enoch Powell shouted out about the dopwnsides of mass immigratyion of people from Pakistan etc he was vilified.  When people like Gert Wilders spoke the same message 10 years ago in Netherlands,  he was attacked as racist (by the liberal media).  Enoch was right - London is now 36% white anglosaxon people. Gert was right - and his Party just won the last election. And on and on it goes. The liberal mainstream media is slowly dying, and the only thing that will save them is if they become truly 'balanced' whcih aint gonna happen.  The world is turning - right - and no matter what they say, more and more people are seeing that their lives have been negatively impacted by al the woke progressive minority pandering BS that the left have embarked on for the last 2-3 decades.  Trump is not a Hitler or Stalin - we all knew Killery was bad/mad - and we have all learned that the Biden Administration is more like a despot with a war mongering hateful agenda than Trump ever was. 

[stoner]

21 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I think that is definitely the case - those who legally emigrated are extremely annoyed about all the illegals crossing ad-hoc. Not only because they went thr4ough the system and paid for the privilege of being accepted into USA, but because the vast majority of the illegals would be rejected as undesirable to be allowed to enter the country. Same thing is being played out all over Europe as more ands more people realise that the woke progressive 'inclusive no-borders agenda' is a load of BS and is undermining the morals and values of their society.  When Enoch Powell shouted out about the dopwnsides of mass immigratyion of people from Pakistan etc he was vilified.  When people like Gert Wilders spoke the same message 10 years ago in Netherlands,  he was attacked as racist (by the liberal media).  Enoch was right - London is now 36% white anglosaxon people. Gert was right - and his Party just won the last election. And on and on it goes. The liberal mainstream media is slowly dying, and the only thing that will save them is if they become truly 'balanced' whcih aint gonna happen.  The world is turning - right - and no matter what they say, more and more people are seeing that their lives have been negatively impacted by al the woke progressive minority pandering BS that the left have embarked on for the last 2-3 decades.  Trump is not a Hitler or Stalin - we all knew Killery was bad/mad - and we have all learned that the Biden Administration is more like a despot with a war mongering hateful agenda than Trump ever was. 

 

the avengers will assemble on this comment. 

[impulse]

3 hours ago, TheAppletons said:

You may be underestimating the number of people who went through the process of legally emigrating to the USA who hate the fact that others are being allowed to cross the border illegally.

Even if you forget the emotional component, it's hard to ignore simple supply and demand as millions pour across the border, who will soon be scrapping it out for their jobs. 

 

Add that to higher prices, higher home prices, and much higher mortgage rates, and their American dream has gotten further and further away.  Not hard to imagine they're cheezed at the current administration.

 

[morrobay]

Sure hope so: Trump or DeSantis only sane choice for this sorry mess at Southern border.

[Chomper Higgot]

On 12/23/2023 at 4:51 PM, impulse said:

Even if you forget the emotional component, it's hard to ignore simple supply and demand as millions pour across the border, who will soon be scrapping it out for their jobs. 

 

Add that to higher prices, higher home prices, and much higher mortgage rates, and their American dream has gotten further and further away.  Not hard to imagine they're cheezed at the current administration.

 

So the people coming to America and working at the bottom of the economy, working in agriculture keeping food prices down, doing yard work and construction work keeping prices down are driving up prices , house prices, mortgage rates?

 

Nothing to do with corporate greedflation?

 

Nothing to do with trickledown economics having turned millionaires into billionaires and the working class into the working poor?

 

Nah, blame the immigrants.

[Hanaguma]

On 12/30/2023 at 8:53 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

So the people coming to America and working at the bottom of the economy, working in agriculture keeping food prices down, doing yard work and construction work keeping prices down are driving up prices , house prices, mortgage rates?

 

Nothing to do with corporate greedflation?

 

Nothing to do with trickledown economics having turned millionaires into billionaires and the working class into the working poor?

 

Nah, blame the immigrants.

Nobody blames immigrants. However, people DO blame illegal aliens. They are two completely separate categories. 

 

If you believe that the working class is becoming the working poor, then you should also be on side with limiting all forms of immigration. Putting pressure on the labor market at the bottom will only cause wages for legal residents and citizens to fall.  Also, adding millions of people who need housing when there is already a housing shortage will cause prices in that sector to rise. 

 

Perhaps the most basic function of a nation is to control its borders. Fail to do that one task and bad things happen. Tens of thousands of young, fit, military age men from myriad countries flowing into the US (especially from China) does not bode well for the future. 

[Chomper Higgot]

45 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Nobody blames immigrants. However, people DO blame illegal aliens. They are two completely separate categories. 

 

If you believe that the working class is becoming the working poor, then you should also be on side with limiting all forms of immigration. Putting pressure on the labor market at the bottom will only cause wages for legal residents and citizens to fall.  Also, adding millions of people who need housing when there is already a housing shortage will cause prices in that sector to rise. 

 

Perhaps the most basic function of a nation is to control its borders. Fail to do that one task and bad things happen. Tens of thousands of young, fit, military age men from myriad countries flowing into the US (especially from China) does not bode well for the future. 

Yep once again blaming immigrants.

 

How about minimum wage?

Corporate greed?

Union busting?

Worker’s compensation cut to drive up profits?

Trickle down being a lie?

 

 

[Hanaguma]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yep once again blaming immigrants.

 

How about minimum wage?

Corporate greed?

Union busting?

Worker’s compensation cut to drive up profits?

Trickle down being a lie?

 

 

Most of those problems are exascerbated by an overabundance of labor, especially vulnerable people who are easily exploited. If you want to solve those issues, tighten the border. 

[heybruce]

11 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Most of those problems are exascerbated by an overabundance of labor, especially vulnerable people who are easily exploited. If you want to solve those issues, tighten the border. 

An overabundance of labor?  Funny, I'm in the US now and I see "Help Wanted" and "Now Hiring" signs all over.

 

Do you have an evidence to show that immigrants, legal and otherwise, are depressing wages? 

[heybruce]

17 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Nobody blames immigrants. However, people DO blame illegal aliens. They are two completely separate categories. 

 

If you believe that the working class is becoming the working poor, then you should also be on side with limiting all forms of immigration. Putting pressure on the labor market at the bottom will only cause wages for legal residents and citizens to fall.  Also, adding millions of people who need housing when there is already a housing shortage will cause prices in that sector to rise. 

 

Perhaps the most basic function of a nation is to control its borders. Fail to do that one task and bad things happen. Tens of thousands of young, fit, military age men from myriad countries flowing into the US (especially from China) does not bode well for the future. 

"Tens of thousands of young, fit, military age men from myriad countries flowing into the US (especially from China) does not bode well for the future. "

 

Oh no!  Tens of thousands of young, fit, working age people coming to the US in search of a better life; filling jobs, expanding the economy, paying taxes, saving out retirement system, and other horrible things.  Some might even join the military, where a shortage of fit young native born Americans who meet the standards are causing serious recruiting problems.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/military-recruitment-is-struggling-as-numbers-plummet/ar-AA1lOAD0  How will be survive?

 

Any sources to back up your "especially from China" claim?

[Berkshire]

Don't look now, but Nikki Haley is rising fast...may even win New Hampshire.

 

[Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley has trimmed former President Donald Trump’s lead in the Republican primary race in New Hampshire to single digits, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire.

Trump still holds a meaningful lead in the poll, with the backing of 39% of likely Republican primary voters in New Hampshire compared to Haley’s 32%.]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/09/politics/cnn-new-hampshire-poll/index.html