Applying For Uk Citizenship In Uk

[Petesear]

Hi, I went to the UK Embassy last year to register my daughter and apply for a British passport, (my wife is Thai), but I did not have the long birth certificate, so it didn't get done.

I have it now but we are in the Uk for the rest of the year.

My question is who do I contact here to apply?

Can anyone help or better still has anyone done it?

Cheers, Pete...

[the scouser]

Pete,

Do you know whether your daughter will have acquired British citizenship at birth? If she did, you can just apply for a British passport for her, enclosing the relevant supporting documentation with the application. With regard to birth registration, i.e. getting a British birth certificate for her, this can only be done at the embassy in Thailand.

Scouse.

[Mahout Angrit]

As you have your daughters UK birth certificate with you, I would think you can just apply for a passport for her. (get a form from your P.O. or download it from the IPS ) You will need someone who is not family and has known you for 2 years to countersign

Edited July 19, 2007 by Mahout Angrit

[the scouser]

I interpreted reference to the long birth certificate as relating to the father rather than the child, although, I agree, it's not clear.

The parent transmitting British citizenship has to provide their long birth cert. in order to help establish that they themselves are British otherwise than by descent.

So, on the assumption that it is his own long birth certificate to which Pete was referring, he can make a passport application for his daughter in the normal manner, enclosing his long birth certificate, his daughter's Thai birth certificate (plus translation), and his marriage certificate (plus translation). He will have to be named on the Thai birth certificate as being the father.

Scouse.

[Mahout Angrit]

Without wishing to be pedantic and standing ready to be corrected but it looks a lot simpler than that from the link given above which states.

A Childs First passport if : The child was born outside the UK

In this case we need to see:

o the child’s full birth or adoption certificate showing parents’ details and evidence of one parent’s nationality or immigration status at the time of the child’s birth. That is, either:

o the mother’s UK birth certificate,* Home Office certificate of registration or naturalisation, or her passport that was valid at the time of the child’s birth;

or

o the father’s UK birth certificate,* Home Office certificate of registration or naturalisation, or his passport that was valid at the time of the child’s birth and the parents’ marriage certificate.*

Note*: If the child has a birth certificate issued by a British consulate or high commission abroad you can send that instead of the parents’ birth and/or marriage certificates.

[the scouser]

And that's the point. The inference I get from Pete's OP is that he was unable to get his daughter's U.K. birth certificate issued by the embassy in Bangkok because, at the time, he did not have his own long birth certificate.

If this is the case, then in order to obtain a British passport for his daughter from within the U.K., he will need to enclose with the application her Thai birth certifcate which names him as the father, his own long birth certificate (as he is the parent transmitting citizenship), and, if his daughter was born before 1/7/06, his marriage certificate.

If Pete still wants a U.K. birth certificate for his daughter, this will have to be obtained from the embassy in Bangkok and there may be a specified time limit within which this has to be done, but I'm not sure on that point.

Scouse.

[Mahout Angrit]

And that's the point. The inference I get from Pete's OP is that he was unable to get his daughter's U.K. birth certificate issued by the embassy in Bangkok

Ok I see your point, its the way we read it !.

So where the h*ll is Pete to confirm?

[Petesear]

Sorry, it was my long birth certificate that I did not have, but which I do now.

We have all the correct documents needed, it was only the above I could not find, so it is now my understanding that I can apply for a passport here in the UK and then on our return to BK apply for a British Birth Certificate there. The B-Cert' is needed for her to go to school in England.

Am I right?

Thanks for all your help.. Pete

[bkk_mike]

The B-Cert' is needed for her to go to school in England.

Am I right?

The child doesn't need a UK Birth Certificate to go to school in the UK.

Foreign-born children don't even need to be British to go to school in the UK. - They just need to have a valid immigration status. (For a State school (i.e. free), that would be some form of leave to remain - i.e. FLR or ILR, and for a private school, it would just need to be a visa).

In your case, showing her British passport should be sufficient to prove her immigration status. (Children born in the UK can easily not have a passport, so a birth certificate is merely a document proving nationality that they should always have.)

One note: I'm basing this on what the rules were when I was last living in the UK (2000). So you might want to confirm with your local authority if the UK passport is sufficient.

Edited to add: You have applied for Child Benefit - yes? If you do that, the child should then appear in the Local Authority's systems, and they'll probably check with you that you've got the child signed up for some sort of school.

Edited July 20, 2007 by bkk_mike

[Mossfinn]

The B-Cert' is needed for her to go to school in England.

Am I right?

The child doesn't need a UK Birth Certificate to go to school in the UK.

Foreign-born children don't even need to be British to go to school in the UK. - They just need to have a valid immigration status. (For a State school (i.e. free), that would be some form of leave to remain - i.e. FLR or ILR, and for a private school, it would just need to be a visa).

Yes this is correct.

Having said that, they might not even check that she has valid immigration status.

Moss