TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 People who have had COVID-19 have a significantly higher risk of suffering chronic fatigue than those who haven’t had the disease, a new study published Wednesday shows. ... Specifically, the study looked at electronic health records of more than 4,500 patients in Washington state who had COVID-19 in 2020 and 2021 and compared them to patients who hadn’t had COVID. The study found the risk for chronic fatigue in those who had COVID was about four times the risk compared to people who hadn’t contracted COVID. Scientists also looked at a more broad definition of fatigue, which includes chronic fatigue as well as diagnoses of weakness and malaise. The study found that the risk of fatigue among COVID-19 patients was 68% higher among people who’d had COVID than those who hadn’t. (more) https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-02-14/risk-for-chronic-fatigue-soars-among-covid-19-patients-study-says 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 crappy jobs have been creating chronic fatigue for decades 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingtlger Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Now researchers are saying getting a covid vaccination might kill you but if you didn't get a vaccination and get covid you'll probably get long covid. Sounds like you're damned if you and damned if you don't.... 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 39 minutes ago, flyingtlger said: Now researchers are saying getting a covid vaccination might kill you but if you didn't get a vaccination and get covid you'll probably get long covid. Sounds like you're damned if you and damned if you don't.... Please stay away from interpreting research. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 hours ago, save the frogs said: crappy jobs have been creating chronic fatigue for decades True, but so does 90 day reporting and the occasional AN post, but that's not related to Covid either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, flyingtlger said: Now researchers are saying getting a covid vaccination might kill you but if you didn't get a vaccination and get covid you'll probably get long covid. Sounds like you're damned if you and damned if you don't.... Everyone interprets reality differently. There is no one reality. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I thought they said that it was so contagious that everyone would catch it ...can't be many left after 4 years who haven't caught this dreaded lurgy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Startmeup said: COVID the disease is champion of heart, liver, brain, and gastrointestinal damage. Has been from day one. It's what happens when an animal or lab altered virus gets into humans. We are not accustomed to it, which is one reason to save people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) "Risk for chronic fatigue soars among those who had COVID-19, study says" Are they the same patients that got vaccinated ... Which ... chicken or egg came first ... comes to mind. 1 hour ago, johng said: I thought they said that it was so contagious that everyone would catch it ...can't be many left after 4 years who haven't caught this dreaded lurgy ? Just us unvaccinated people who haven't had covid Edited February 18 by KhunLA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 (edited) 8 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Just us unvaccinated people who haven't had covid And us vaccinated, N95 mask wearing folks who haven't had COVID as well... at least, to the best of my knowledge. Edited February 18 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post retarius Posted February 18 Popular Post Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, flyingtlger said: Now researchers are saying getting a covid vaccination might kill you but if you didn't get a vaccination and get covid you'll probably get long covid. Sounds like you're damned if you and damned if you don't.... Yes the whole thing looks like a nasty con job. I'm crippled from either the vaccine shots (mRNA) or from a very mild dose of COVID that the vaccine didn't prevent. Over two years now. Yes, I know some will say, the vaccine could have prevented a very much worse does of COVID. But I say, where is your proof that in this particular case the vaccine prevented hospitalisation and or death? The problem is the suppression of evidence by authorities that made a series of wrong calls and who now don't want the truth to come out. Anything that ran counter to official narrative was censored by social media and the medical press or slandered. 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 The truth is out there and is well-documented and known: "COVID-19 vaccines significantly reduce the risk of severe disease, hospitalisation and death from infection with SARS-CoV-2." ... "Evidence from the more than 13 billions of vaccine doses given worldwide shows that COVID-19 vaccines have a very good safety profile in all age groups. The benefits of the approved vaccines far outweigh the possible risks." ... "As for all medicines, reports of medical events after COVID-19 vaccination (suspected side effects) are collected and continuously evaluated by the authorities. These evaluations show that in most cases the medical events were not caused by the vaccine." ICMRA statement on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines (International Coalition of Medicines Regulatory Authorities) ICMRA brings together 38 medicines regulatory authorities from every region in the world... https://icmra.info/drupal/strategicinitiatives/vaccines/safety_statement 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 New theory on why Covid seems to persist in some cases................ Researchers believe long Covid sufferers, at least those who experienced severe infections, may never have managed to fully rid their bodies of the virus, allowing it to continue to replicate, or pieces to be retained, even after they had tested negative. This may lead to “persistent activation of the immune system and cause all these chronic symptoms”, Koroshetz said. An NIH study, based on autopsies, found evidence that some who had lost their lives up to 280 days after becoming infected with severe disease had died with active traces of the Covid virus. A longer course of antiviral drugs could help to wipe out any remaining pockets of the virus. A second approach is based on the theory that long Covid is primarily an autoimmune disorder. This suggests sufferers’ immune systems “rev up” to the point where they move from protect to attack mode, weakening healthy cells. Recover investigators will be testing an autoimmune treatment called intravenous gamma globulin (IVIG), which Koroshetz said “resets the immune system and is kind of an immune suppressant”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, xylophone said: New theory on why Covid seems to persist in some cases................ Researchers believe long Covid sufferers, at least those who experienced severe infections, may never have managed to fully rid their bodies of the virus, allowing it to continue to replicate, or pieces to be retained, even after they had tested negative. This may lead to “persistent activation of the immune system and cause all these chronic symptoms”, Koroshetz said. An NIH study, based on autopsies, found evidence that some who had lost their lives up to 280 days after becoming infected with severe disease had died with active traces of the Covid virus. A longer course of antiviral drugs could help to wipe out any remaining pockets of the virus. A second approach is based on the theory that long Covid is primarily an autoimmune disorder. This suggests sufferers’ immune systems “rev up” to the point where they move from protect to attack mode, weakening healthy cells. Recover investigators will be testing an autoimmune treatment called intravenous gamma globulin (IVIG), which Koroshetz said “resets the immune system and is kind of an immune suppressant”. Sorry forgot to add this link for the above: https://www.ft.com/content/ed17fac5-0af4-432d-ab1b-0a55bc789865 https://archive.ph/5WMaJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) I don't see anywhere in the linked article where there's data showing that those who got Covid after being vaccinated fared any better or worse than those who weren't vaccinated at all. Like retarius, I've had chronic fatigue (among other symptoms) that started the day after my 2nd Pfizer, well over 2 years ago. It didn't get better or worse after I got Covid last summer. Edited February 19 by impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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