But they must reach their 30% diversity target - so they selected a fat female who can't holster her gun (diversity target met!)

Apparently Nixon would not accept the gov't SS protection. Wonder why?

They have now deployed their Tier One A-Team.

 

All kidding aside, it will be interesting to see how they cobbled together the team on the ground at the rally. It's coming out now that many of them weren't Secret Service, but DHS employees on loan because other events that day depleted the SS ranks. Including a last minute event called by Dr Jill.

 

I'm not claiming any of that is confirmed, just that it's being investigated.  By the Biden FBI, who will no doubt figure out how Trump screwed up to cause this.  Or blame the local cops.

 

3 hours ago, BobBKK said:

 

Whoever would have thought that Melissa McCarthy was on the ss team.

It gets obvious when you dig a little deeper. Check the physical fitness standards for the Secret Service. There are separate standards for males and females- guess which are easier?

 

https://www.secretservice.gov/careers/technical-law-enforcement/fitness-standards

 

eg, a man who can only do 37 pushups in a minute is graded as "very poor", but a woman who does the same is "very good".  A man who can do only 4 chin-ups is "very poor" but a woman doing the same is "excellent"

FBI....Face Book Infuencers?

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Was it obvious where the rounds were coming from?

 

Was it obvious there was only one shooter?

 

Would it not be sensible/protocol to automatically give him 360 protection?

I listened to the audio, total of nine shots with 3 distinct tones. The first three shots were most likely from a 5.56 from the same position, slow paced shots fired, semi auto. The following 5 shots sounded like 7.62, the first three of those were semi auto mode, the following 2 shots were in select fire mode and the reflexes of the shooter was definitely well experienced. ~15 seconds after the first shot was the ninth shot, definitely shot from a different position from the previous two positions, sounds like a 7.62 out in the open, very little echoing, most likely the ss sniper hitting the patsy guy on the roof.

4 minutes ago, novacova said:

I listened to the audio, total of nine shots with 3 distinct tones. The first three shots were most likely from a 5.56 from the same position, slow paced shots fired, semi auto. The following 5 shots sounded like 7.62, the first three of those were semi auto mode, the following 2 shots were in select fire mode and the reflexes of the shooter was definitely well experienced. ~15 seconds after the first shot was the ninth shot, definitely shot from a different position from the previous two positions, sounds like a 7.62 out in the open, very little echoing, most likely the ss sniper hitting the patsy guy on the roof.

WOW!

But can they pass the slope test?

Whether or not you agree with DEI quotas (I 100% don't), it is obvious that certain jobs, ones that involve human life (such as security, surgeon, pilot etc.) need to be excluded from the hairbrained idea. 

 

Pick the best, most suitable person for the job irrespective or race/age/gender and you can avoid embarrassments like the Trump assassination attempt.

 

With Kimberley Cheatle as head of the secret service you end up with someone with an assault rifle 150 metres awway, clearly visible to everyone given 15 minutes to line up their shot on the former (and future) president. Her excuse? The roof was so sloped that it was a health and safety risk to have someone up there 😃. 

 

If that wasn't bad enough, it was followed by this...

 

To be fair, there are roles in the USSS where women could thrive. Put them undercover in crowds to look for potential trouble, sniper (women make very good snipers), etc. But personal protection, a basic task is literally using your body as a meat shield on your principal.  And a guy who is 6 foot plus like Trump needs guys at least the same height.

26 minutes ago, novacova said:

I listened to the audio, total of nine shots with 3 distinct tones. The first three shots were most likely from a 5.56 from the same position, slow paced shots fired, semi auto. The following 5 shots sounded like 7.62, the first three of those were semi auto mode, the following 2 shots were in select fire mode and the reflexes of the shooter was definitely well experienced. ~15 seconds after the first shot was the ninth shot, definitely shot from a different position from the previous two positions, sounds like a 7.62 out in the open, very little echoing, most likely the ss sniper hitting the patsy guy on the roof.

 

So far, I haven't seen any reports of how many spent 5.56 shells they found on the roof, or how many were left in the magazine. (Assuming he loaded it full, having been to the ammo store that morning.)  Nor have I seen whether it was a 10 round magazine (max legal capacity in some states), a 20 round (probably the most common AR15 magazine) or a 30 round (what most gun nuts buy.)

 

Has anyone seen such info?

 

 

31 minutes ago, novacova said:

I listened to the audio, total of nine shots with 3 distinct tones. The first three shots were most likely from a 5.56 from the same position, slow paced shots fired, semi auto. The following 5 shots sounded like 7.62, the first three of those were semi auto mode, the following 2 shots were in select fire mode and the reflexes of the shooter was definitely well experienced. ~15 seconds after the first shot was the ninth shot, definitely shot from a different position from the previous two positions, sounds like a 7.62 out in the open, very little echoing, most likely the ss sniper hitting the patsy guy on the roof.

 

Psychotic comment from a right wing gun nutter .

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Whether or not you agree with DEI quotas (I 100% don't), it is obvious that certain jobs, ones that involve human life (such as security, surgeon, pilot etc.) need to be excluded from the hairbrained idea. 

 

Pick the best, most suitable person for the job irrespective or race/age/gender and you can avoid embarrassments like the Trump assassination attempt.

 

With Kimberley Cheatle as head of the secret service you end up with someone with an assault rifle 150 metres awway, clearly visible to everyone given 15 minutes to line up their shot on the former (and future) president. Her excuse? The roof was so sloped that it was a health and safety risk to have someone up there 😃. 

 

If that wasn't bad enough, it was followed by this...

 

Don't tell me there were hairbrained women in charge for all of these?

 

 

 

1. Andrew Jackson: The first recorded attempt was on January 30, 1835, when Richard Lawrence attempted to shoot Jackson but failed when both of his pistols misfired.

2. Abraham Lincoln: Successfully assassinated by John Wilkes Booth on April 14, 1865.

3. James A. Garfield: Successfully assassinated by Charles J. Guiteau on July 2, 1881.

4. William McKinley: Successfully assassinated by Leon Czolgosz on September 6, 1901.

5. Theodore Roosevelt: Former President Theodore Roosevelt was shot by John Flammang Schrank on October 14, 1912, but survived because the bullet was slowed by a glasses case and a speech manuscript in his pocket.

6. Franklin D. Roosevelt: An attempt was made on February 15, 1933, by Giuseppe Zangara, who fired several shots but missed Roosevelt, though he did kill Chicago Mayor Anton Cermak.

7. Harry S. Truman: Two Puerto Rican nationalists, Griselio Torresola and Oscar Collazo, attempted to kill Truman on November 1, 1950. Truman was unharmed.

8. John F. Kennedy: Successfully assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald on November 22, 1963.

9. Richard Nixon: Samuel Byck attempted to hijack a plane on February 22, 1974, with plans to crash it into the White House. The attempt failed.

10. Gerald Ford: There were two attempts on Ford’s life in 1975. The first was by Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme on September 5, and the second by Sara Jane Moore on September 22. Ford was unharmed in both attempts.

11. Jimmy Carter: Raymond Lee Harvey, along with others, planned to assassinate Carter on May 5, 1979, but the attempt was thwarted.

12. Ronald Reagan: An attempt was made by John Hinckley Jr. on March 30, 1981. Reagan was shot but survived.

13. George H. W. Bush: An attempt was made in 1993 by Iraqi intelligence officers, who plotted to assassinate Bush with a car bomb during his visit to Kuwait. The plot was foiled.

14. Bill Clinton: Frank Eugene Corder crashed a Cessna into the White House grounds on September 12, 1994, in an apparent attempt to hit the White House itself. Clinton was not harmed. Additionally, Francisco Martin Duran fired shots at the White House on October 29, 1994.

15. George W. Bush: On February 7, 2001, Robert Pickett fired shots at the White House from outside the fence, and in 2005, Vladimir Arutyunian threw a grenade at Bush during a visit to Tbilisi, Georgia, but it did not explode.

16. Barack Obama: There were several plots and attempts, including one by Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, who fired shots at the White House on November 11, 2011. Obama was not harmed.

 

These are the major recorded assassination attempts, though there may have been other lesser-known or unpublicized attempts.

Removed some insults and sexist posts. 

"FBI choses the fittest, most trained and competent to protect Trump"

 

Well I see at least they have a sense of humor!

1 hour ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

Psychotic comment from a right wing gun nutter .

Not sure what one should call your comment! There were at least 3 different guns fired that day. At least. You think there is not a cover up? Many have analyzed the shots and if you took the time to listen closely then you could too!

1 hour ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

Psychotic comment from a right wing gun nutter .

Psychotic comment from a left wing nuttier 

So who can tell me? Do professional snipers aim at the head or torso?

Seems all these years I thought it was the torso.

7 hours ago, BobBKK said:

But they must reach their 30% diversity target - so they selected a fat female who can't holster her gun (diversity target met!)

Quite so, and now the Secret service are complaining that.....here is the headline..

"Secret Service says it's appalled by DEI rhetoric against female agents after Trump rally shooting"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/secret-says-appalled-dei-rhetoric-030134758.html

REALLY, shouldn't the SS be more concerned how they let Trump get shot, allowed a shooter on an unguarded roof, 150 yards away? No they are more concerned about the feelings of some incompetent women!

Wow.... the most astonishing thing in all this is that Yahoo news is still a thing and the comment section is back on!!!!

Lot of incels on here today.

13 minutes ago, Purdey said:

So who can tell me? Do professional snipers aim at the head or torso?

Seems all these years I thought it was the torso.

Depends on distance and opportunity of the shot. Preferably the head being the most vulnerable part of the body. 

8 hours ago, BobBKK said:

But they must reach their 30% diversity target - so they selected a fat female who can't holster her gun (diversity target met!)

A bull dyke, aka a butch.  Diversity 100%.  That individual is a laughing stock for what that organization represents.

 

56 minutes ago, Purdey said:

So who can tell me? Do professional snipers aim at the head or torso?

Seems all these years I thought it was the torso.

 

A head shot incapacitates the target immediately. A torso shot might give the target time to fire more rounds, especially if he was wearing body armor.

 

It would also depend on what is visible, you can only shoot what you can see. I think the best thing is to fire three shots as quickly as possible. Two warning shots to the torso to distract the target and get his attention then one shot to the head to let him know it's getting serious.

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Whether or not you agree with DEI quotas (I 100% don't), it is obvious that certain jobs, ones that involve human life (such as security, surgeon, pilot etc.) need to be excluded from the hairbrained idea. 

 

Pick the best, most suitable person for the job irrespective or race/age/gender and you can avoid embarrassments like the Trump assassination attempt.

 

With Kimberley Cheatle as head of the secret service you end up with someone with an assault rifle 150 metres awway, clearly visible to everyone given 15 minutes to line up their shot on the former (and future) president. Her excuse? The roof was so sloped that it was a health and safety risk to have someone up there 😃. 

 

If that wasn't bad enough, it was followed by this...

 

 

optics on this are great. 

20 minutes ago, Smokin Joe said:

 

A head shot incapacitates the target immediately. A torso shot might give the target time to fire more rounds, especially if he was wearing body armor.

 

It would also depend on what is visible, you can only shoot what you can see. I think the best thing is to fire three shots as quickly as possible. Two warning shots to the torso to distract the target and get his attention then one shot to the head to let him know it's getting serious.

Thanks a lot. Seems I was misled when the DOD says military snipers aim for two triangles on center body mass (https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Experience/Art-of-the-Shot/).

So, I can assume that this kid who was 150 feet away went for the head shot only.