Imagine this scenario.

You're the manager of a middle level manager in a corporation.

He has some power to initiate and run his own projects without approval.

So imagine he started his own project and it was going the way that the war against Iran is going.

Would you FIRE him or not?

Please be honest and consider the scenario without thinking about Trump.

That is probably hard to do for those in the maga cult.

But please try.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're the manager of a middle level manager in a corporation.

Too many managers IMHO.

And I think you mean WOULD you fire him as in the headline, not WHY. (Why you FIRE him or not?)

Get your English correct before posting please.

I'm going to go there.

I consider anyone that votes NO on this poll to be LYING and unable to separate this topic from loyalty to Trump.

A manager who didn't fire the middle manager in a scenario like this would be fired himself!

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Would you FIRE him or not?

Would evalute the direction of the project before deciding to stick a fork in it or not.

I would probably take him (definitely wouldn't be a 'her' as not up to the job) out for a beer lunch. That would morph into a mid afternoon bottle of wine with a few additional evening bevies. I would point out the error of his ways and give him a few steers on where he is going wrong. I would get him (definitely not 'her') to pick up the bill(s) as we went along as I would be signing off his (definitely not 'her' - not up to the job) expenses.

Next day I would deny any knowledge of such a 'meeting' and fully pass the blame if anything has gone further 'tits up'. I would also call in sick that day as would be 'hanging'. Probably a bacon sandwich, 2+ 'hand shandies' and a spot of daytime TV.

Next day would reappear as if nothing had happened and recommend that said 'he' (not 'she' - not up to the job) be fired.

Sorted.

2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Would evalute the direction of the project before deciding to stick a fork in it or not.

The manager thought it would be over in a few days and not spread globally, The manager had no plan to define project success. The manager was totally unprepared for scenarios where it didn't work as expected. The manager failed to get buy in from colleagues before acting, The manager was pressured to act by fellow a mid manager from Tel Aviv, The result of his actions resulted in deaths of employees and a massive increase deficit spending by the company. In desperation the manager changed policies to greatly financially benefit competing ("enemy") corporations.

Come on now! BE HONEST.

(Read the OP before voting)

Where is the OP which explains what project the manager started, in what kind of company, and what the exact consequences were?

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The manager thought it would be over in a few days and not spread globally, The manager had no plan to define project success. The manager was totally unprepared for scenarios where it didn't work as expected. The manager failed to get buy in from colleagues before acting, The manager was pressured to act by fellow a mid manager from Tel Aviv, The result of his actions resulted in deaths of employees and a massive increase deficit spending by the company. In desperation the manager changed policies to greatly financially benefit competing ("enemy") corporations.

Come on now! BE HONEST.

The project and its expected scope needs to be defined.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

I consider anyone that votes NO on this poll to be LYING and unable to separate this topic from loyalty to Trump.

Why the poll if you can't accept the results. Please be honest, but you're lying if you disagree with me.

The answer would all depend how one thinks the war is going, good or bad. Since it's not over, pretty hard to say.

What if it ended tomorrow, the present regime threw in the towel, placed an interim govt in, and scheduled new election, for May 1st, along with opening the straits and ceased all hostilities.

You're asking folks to judge a plan, before the results are in. Can't judge a marketing plan, until the final sales / profit numbers are in.

I'd fire anyone that invaded a foreign country.

But not fire them because the invasion went badly.

So I had to vote no to your question.

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Why the poll if you can't accept the results. Please be honest, but you're lying if you disagree with me.

The answer would all depend how one thinks the war is going, good or bad. Since it's not over, pretty hard to say.

What if it ended tomorrow, the present regime threw in the towel, placed an interim govt in, and scheduled new election, for May 1st, along with opening the straits and ceased all hostilities.

You're asking folks to judge a plan, before the results are in. Can't judge a marketing plan, until the final sales / profit numbers are in.

I accept that people lie on polls and that people in the maga fascist cult have no sense of rationality or truth, yes.

3 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

The project and its expected scope needs to be defined.

Indeed. That was NOT done by the middle manager. Once things went badly he voiced many different and contradictory theories of the scope to try to bail him out. One of many of his FIREABLE failings.

3 hours ago, CallumWK said:

(Read the OP before voting)

Where is the OP which explains what project the manager started, in what kind of company, and what the exact consequences were?

You clearly have reading comprehension problems.

3 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Would evalute the direction of the project before deciding to stick a fork in it or not.

The direction mirrors what happened with Iran. DUH!

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You clearly have reading comprehension problems.

No I haven't, why do you want to hide you're talking about Netanyahu?

I would probably wait until I had a gauge of success or failure.

Unless the project was sending me into bankruptcy, in which case I would be firing him.

54 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I accept that people lie on polls and that people in the maga fascist cult have no sense of rationality or truth, yes.

Why would anyone lie on an anonymous poll ? Why would someone even bother voting if going to lie ?

Just to troll and try to piss you off ? I didn't vote ... or am I lying, and voted no.

Obsessive deranged Trump hate requires the daily spew of nonsense like this topic.