jumnien Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Just wanted to get a feel if most people think the Sonthi government will complete the prosecution of Thaksin before the upcoming election? Or will we have to wait for justice to be served during the next government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamsin Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Just wanted to get a feel if most people think the Sonthi government will complete the prosecution of Thaksin before the upcoming election? Or will we have to wait for justice to be served during the next government? Neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Just wanted to get a feel if most people think the Sonthi government will complete the prosecution of Thaksin before the upcoming election? Or will we have to wait for justice to be served during the next government? The military went after Thaksin's money and has been trying to discredit him. To no avail. The next government could be - his. Thaksin's mates and his followers. That's the worst nightmare the junta has. Don't forget the landslide his party won in the last elections. Or even the elections before. The junta has overestimated their popularity figures. That's where the problem is, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProThaiExpat Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Extradition from the UK is not possible as long as he can maintain that the corruption charges he is surely guilty of are labeled "political" due to th coup government trying to try him. Best chance is to leave a couple of the most easily proven charges until the next government takes over and hope that the independent judiciary and the new independent prosecutors office extradites him and convicts him. UK should grant extradition then, I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Extradition from the UK is not possible as long as he can maintain that the corruption charges he is surely guilty of are labeled "political" due to th coup government trying to try him.Best chance is to leave a couple of the most easily proven charges until the next government takes over and hope that the independent judiciary and the new independent prosecutors office extradites him and convicts him. UK should grant extradition then, I would think. IMO, what you said is a science fiction. It is clear now that the junta has no support. The new government could be Thaksin's or swaying towards him. They may zero any charges. UK knows the mickey mouse politics in Thai, especially the junta that has been laughed at all around the planet. No extradictions or things like that. More uncertainity ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksingapore Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 i would hope not. Thaskin is legally the Prime Minister of Thailand. I hope that he brings charges against the current illegal rogue government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 This thread is a spam. The OP is not satisfied with pushing his singleminded agenda all over "newsclippings" and so now migrated to "general". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 This thread is a spam. The OP is not satisfied with pushing his singleminded agenda all over "newsclippings" and so now migrated to "general". You could be right. The OP could be a successor of the morons like ThaiGoon or other military installed idiots who prowl this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'm just asking for your opinions, no need to get nasty. I do appreciate all perspectives, as we all do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 The OP is the opposite. He wants the world to hear him about the junta. Actually he insists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 I do support the junta's attempts to unite the country and bring democracy back to Thailand. I would not say though that I am pro-junta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangsay Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Just wanted to get a feel if most people think the Sonthi government will complete the prosecution of Thaksin before the upcoming election? Or will we have to wait for justice to be served during the next government? Your question is fairly disingenuous. In the last month the Thai authorities have issued two arrest warrants or Thaksin for failure to appear. The trials have not even started. Are you suggesting they could be completed , even in absentia , before the election? I do not discount the other posts which speak of a pro-Thaksin element winning that election. However , to paraphrase Joe Stalin (was it?) "how many divisions does Thaksin have ?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'm just asking for your opinions, no need to get nasty. I do appreciate all perspectives, as we all do. Like deposing of the elected PM who got elected by numbers almost twice what the junta "yes" votes in the "first in history" referendum? With a "holiday for the people" attached. Populist who was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'm have no idea whether they can be completed before the election or when the next election will be. I just want to hear what other people think about justice being served before the election comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'm have no idea whether they can be completed before the election or when the next election will be. I just want to hear what other people think about justice being served before the election comes. What justice? Who has been elected and who has not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 There will be no prosecution - too dangerous, last thing they want is for Mr. T to expose what dirty business they've been up to. Not to mention, no way he's leaving blighty anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark100 Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Just wanted to get a feel if most people think the Sonthi government will complete the prosecution of Thaksin before the upcoming election? Or will we have to wait for justice to be served during the next government? He can claim aslyum if he feels his life is in danger, so the chances of him coming back now are zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Yeah, I think Thaksin's trial is currently scheduled after the date when Kamnan Poh reports to prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 Thanks for your responses. It appears that unfortunately no one believes that Thaksin will be prosecuted before the election next year. Quite sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Thanks for your responses. It appears that unfortunately no one believes that Thaksin will be prosecuted before the election next year. Quite sad really. Quite sad that junta won't be prosecuted - thats the really sad bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 They would make interesting cell mates, wouldn't they? Now there's a reality show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 True to form, Thaksin would push his children out in front of himself during any cell-block fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Thanks for your responses. It appears that unfortunately no one believes that Thaksin will be prosecuted before the election next year. Quite sad really. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the election is set for 23rd December,this year. I agree that it is sad that the justice-process runs slowly, perhaps it might be speeded-up, if Thaksin had not claimed first to be ill, and then failed to show-up in court ? By the way, people who still refer to DL as the 'elected PM' might also care to remember, that he resigned last year, when he called another election, unnecessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 One must remember he was appointed the caretaker PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 Appointed by whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Next week is D day because the judges of The Political Crimes Court will decide whether to go ahead or not with the defendant in absentia. In normal criminal courts the defendant must appear at least once for the case to proceed but as this is a special court for political corruption that may not apply. Whatever, the decision will set a precedent, if the judges decide Thaksin must appear all the following cases will grind to a halt as they will proceed in the same court. If the judges decide to proceed with the defendant in absentia the cases will be concluded at a fast rate, 2 or 3 months per case as unlike other Thai courts the judges meet continuouslyuntil the case is finished, not once a week, a month as in other courts. Rakkiart's case was a good example from a few years back. I forget the day thejudgeswill decide about proceeding or waiting, I think it's September 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 the quick answer is no. has any other deposed thai leader been successfully prosecuted while in exile? history says no too. and besides, will a court convened under the junta possibly be considered to be legitimate or indeed impartial? if the legitimacy of a court is in question, what does it matter the judgements it makes? the junta has worked itself into a corner and it gets more difficult to see how they can maneuver a way out without looking very undemocratic. they know thaksin is just biding his time as the junta's position is weakening as the elections draw near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevykanteve Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Thanks for your responses. It appears that unfortunately no one believes that Thaksin will be prosecuted before the election next year. Quite sad really. Quite sad that junta won't be prosecuted - thats the really sad bit. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 One must remember he was appointed the caretaker PM. Quite right, appointed caretaker PM by the Head of State, not elected as such, and he then took care to arrange the new elections very slowly, whilst moving-in yet more TRT-loyalists to positions of authority. But so far, I think the answer to the OP is a 'no, across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pundi64 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Just wanted to get a feel if most people think the Sonthi government will complete the prosecution of Thaksin before the upcoming election? Or will we have to wait for justice to be served during the next government? Your kidding right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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