Spiders In My Garden!

[andyadam]

Does anyone else in the area get these things, I think I have ID'd them as "Haplopelma longipes" sometimes called the Thai Tiger, can be quick to bite!!

I have now found 5 of them!! They live in holes in the ground about an inch or more diameter. All the locals we have asked just say, "Aroy, mak mak!"

[NormanW]

hello andy

do you want to know if anyone else has them or want to know how to get rid of them?

All the best

[andyadam]

A bit of both really, I do want to know if they are common around here, I've had the house about a year and the pat 3 weeks is the first time I've seen them.

My wife thought we may have brought them back from Chiang Mai, I was parking is some very off the beaten track areas!!

[Jamie]

If it is one of the Haplopelma, they are generally harmless unless provoked, but even then, their bite is not deadly. They will take care of any insects you might be having a problem with.

[NormanW]

Yes i agree with Jamie, i would use nature rather than kill it (that's the Buddist in me). I would try and avoid them as much as possible but knowing they are there to help must be a good thing.

Regards

[tropo]

Yes i agree with Jamie, i would use nature rather than kill it (that's the Buddist in me). I would try and avoid them as much as possible but knowing they are there to help must be a good thing.

Regards

That's not only a Bhuddist thing.

I'd leave them there, especially since they are not venomous.

[Rimmer]

They got a life and place in this world and generally they are good and help keep all the bad things away.

[OneMikeInBangkok]

They got a life and place in this world and generally they are good and help keep all the bad things away.

Can they protect against Katoeys?

If so can I have a mating pair

[andyadam]

I would love to live and let live, but I have a one year old daughter who loves to walk around and pick things up!!!!

[mamanoodle]

Yes i agree with Jamie, i would use nature rather than kill it (that's the Buddist in me). I would try and avoid them as much as possible but knowing they are there to help must be a good thing.

Regards

Nope!! big spiders not a good thing, no matter how helpful(even if they did all my housework for me) I'd get busy(or rather get the hubby busy) with the spray(that's the atheist in me,also the big spider phobia) and whereas they may not be venomous to adults, a one year old is a different story as not only do they pick things up they also tend to put them in their mouths!! Plus i'd be terrified they also get into the house.

[EmCross]

Yes i agree with Jamie, i would use nature rather than kill it (that's the Buddist in me). I would try and avoid them as much as possible but knowing they are there to help must be a good thing.

Regards

Nope!! big spiders not a good thing, no matter how helpful(even if they did all my housework for me) I'd get busy(or rather get the hubby busy) with the spray(that's the atheist in me,also the big spider phobia) and whereas they may not be venomous to adults, a one year old is a different story as not only do they pick things up they also tend to put them in their mouths!! Plus i'd be terrified they also get into the house.

I am inclined to agree big spiders and toddlers do not mix! Get rid as soon as possible before there is a nasty accident. I would not like to see spiders like this in my garden or house, big spiders and snakes give me the hebbie gebbies!

[tropo]

Nope!! big spiders not a good thing, no matter how helpful(even if they did all my housework for me) I'd get busy(or rather get the hubby busy) with the spray(that's the atheist in me,also the big spider phobia) and whereas they may not be venomous to adults, a one year old is a different story as not only do they pick things up they also tend to put them in their mouths!! Plus i'd be terrified they also get into the house.

Sure, arachnophobia is one good reason to eliminate spiders, however your fear of snakes and spiders will probably turn your children phobic too.

Unless a creature is toxic (eg. black widow spiders, venomous snakes), let the children learn to be comfortable with nature and learn about it rather than kill it.

Edited October 28, 2007 by tropo

[Jareddiving]

Nope!! big spiders not a good thing, no matter how helpful(even if they did all my housework for me) I'd get busy(or rather get the hubby busy) with the spray(that's the atheist in me,also the big spider phobia) and whereas they may not be venomous to adults, a one year old is a different story as not only do they pick things up they also tend to put them in their mouths!! Plus i'd be terrified they also get into the house.

Sure, arachnophobia is one good reason to eliminate spiders, however your fear of snakes and spiders will probably turn your children phobic too.

Unless a creature is toxic (eg. black widow spiders, venomous snakes), let the children learn to be comfortable with nature and learn about it rather than kill it.

True, but don't forget we're talking about a 1 year old.

I really wouldnt wanna have big spiders like that in my garden to.

I think the best thing is to get rid of them. Maybe there is a possibility not killing the spiders.

Anyway.. They are freaks of nature!!

[sweetchariot]

The Buddhist way is all very well, but it can get you into trouble.

We had a snake in the garden yesterday, and my girlfriend insisted that I catch it and return it to the jungle over our back wall rather than kill it. As it was quite small (about 1m long and very thin) I thought I would give it a go, but donned sensible shoes and thick gardening gloves just in case.

After about an hour of grabbing it, and dropping it when it subsequently tried to bite me, my girlfriend asked a Thai neighbour to come and assist. He took one look at it and smashed its head with a big stick.

As he carried away the limp specimen he told my girlfriend that it was very dangerous, and could even kill!

Sometimes live and let live doesn't apply I am afraid.

[andyadam]

Snakes I can deal with, I have a "snake stick" to remove them alive (which I have done in the past) and an air rifle to deal with the big nasty ones!!!!!

Back to the spiders, according to some of the articles I have read, these are a very aggresive spider and have mild venom (worse for a baby) and the people that keep these things as pets advise against handling them.

I have so far got close enough to take a pic on macro without incident. I am however thinking about the future, if I have a breeding couple where will it end!!????

I killed the one in the pic and did feel quite bad about it, I don't think I want to take the risk of the babe of getting bitten.

If I can find a safe way to remove then I will, but they live in holes about 8" deep (no jokes please boys, keep it clean!!)

[Jareddiving]

The Buddhist way is all very well, but it can get you into trouble.

We had a snake in the garden yesterday, and my girlfriend insisted that I catch it and return it to the jungle over our back wall rather than kill it. As it was quite small (about 1m long and very thin) I thought I would give it a go, but donned sensible shoes and thick gardening gloves just in case.

After about an hour of grabbing it, and dropping it when it subsequently tried to bite me, my girlfriend asked a Thai neighbour to come and assist. He took one look at it and smashed its head with a big stick.

As he carried away the limp specimen he told my girlfriend that it was very dangerous, and could even kill!

Sometimes live and let live doesn't apply I am afraid.

Absolutely wright..

Sometimes i have small snakes in my garden to.

The gardner rather kills it then making an attempt, twrowing it back over the fence.

Anywat it is more likely these spiders will do you or your family harm instead of bringing joy.

[TheEmperorOfTheNorth]

The Buddhist way is all very well, but it can get you into trouble.

We had a snake in the garden yesterday, and my girlfriend insisted that I catch it and return it to the jungle over our back wall rather than kill it. As it was quite small (about 1m long and very thin) I thought I would give it a go, but donned sensible shoes and thick gardening gloves just in case.

After about an hour of grabbing it, and dropping it when it subsequently tried to bite me, my girlfriend asked a Thai neighbour to come and assist. He took one look at it and smashed its head with a big stick.

As he carried away the limp specimen he told my girlfriend that it was very dangerous, and could even kill!

Sometimes live and let live doesn't apply I am afraid.

Yup. This is what I always find funny on snake-lover's sites where they rant on "how most people get bitten because they tried to kill the snake" and then in the very next paragraph go on about catching it and setting it free somewhere. Like there's a whole lot of difference in risk/danger between killing and catching..

Edited October 29, 2007 by TheEmperorOfTheNorth

[SnakeBite]

Wish I could get down to where you are and I would dig them up for you and take them away. I just love spiders and snakes.

[CGW]

Is this a religious thread? At least agree the correct spelling for Buddhist!

Am I missing something? Is life perfect? Is everything in balance, look around WE have screwed the world - kill em, thats the human way!

[astral]

From your first comments about Aroi mak mak,

it sounds as though the locals will eat them for you

if you really want to get rid of them.

[andyadam]

They will eat them if I catch them!!! They won't go near them.