My Cocky Friends Needs To Fight A Thai Boxer!

[Richb2004v2]

I don't see the big deal. He's hardly likely to be killed is he? If he is trained to some extent in martial arts he must be at least familiar with being hit to some extent. He fights the Thai guy and at worst he gets beat quickly. If the guy hits in him so hard that he gets knocked on his arse then that’s the end of it. The Thai guy is hardly likely to jump on his unconscious body and pummel him to death. How is he going to be killed? It’s not like we are talking about putting an utterly unprepared none fighter in with a professional killer.

[mrtoad]

I think a lot of us are still waiting on you to start walking back home 1^st.

Yeah, he obviously got stuck under a bridge on his long walk back to Europe.

[TheDon]

Just tell him to pick fights with random people on the street

[scousemouse]

Okay now i live in a nice apartment in Thailand and an old friend of mine came to visit me. I have not seen him for 2 years.

The thing is that he has trained Khali Sarikan or something. Its a martial art from the philipines. He is now extremly cocky when he goes out and thinks he can beat up everyone even though he never fights in real. I wanna show him the power og the muay thai because he is just waaaay to cocky and am sure sooner or later he will get himself killed hehe.

He will stay here for 2 more weeks and i was wondering if thee is a place he can go to fight some ass kicking thai boxer. I do not want to hear about any illegal underground stuff but a good pratice fight, fair and square in a boxing ring or something. I guess u guys know what i mean so is there any place i cn take him where he can face a good muay thai fighter and have a practice fight or something?

If you pat 500 baht in any local muay thai bar in Bangkok or Pattaya you get to fight the local muay thai guy and believe me , your mate WILL get his arse handed to him .

If not I'll knock him out for you .

[TheDon]

On the internet, Im 6'11 weighing 150 kgs of pure muscle, Im a expert in Wrestling, Karate, Tae whatever do, boxing, Thai boxing, kickboxing, brazillian jujitsu. I eat nails for breakfast and brush my teeth with a bbq brush.

[geriatrickid]

On the internet, Im 6'11 weighing 150 kgs of pure muscle, Im a expert in Wrestling, Karate, Tae whatever do, boxing, Thai boxing, kickboxing, brazillian jujitsu. I eat nails for breakfast and brush my teeth with a bbq brush.

fawk, I lost a mud wrestling match with a katoey 3 days ago at our songkran party. I am in awe of you. Nothing gives you the big old L when you lose one of these events. Cost me 2 whiskey bottles and I had to kiss this person (on the cheek) as it said I was too ugly to get more than that. Mind you I ended up helping drink the stuff, so I can't complain. Afterwards though I was rather touched when katoey came over and gave me a very Thai polite traditonal songkran blessing and a friendly hug. I don't think a Thai fighter is going to show the same kindness or compassion and the only liquids that will flow will be the farang's blood.

[PaulUSA302]

There is a show here (USA) call human weapon, they measured how powerfull blows from all different martial art including boxing. Grabbing someone from the back of his head and give him the knee like they do in Thai boixng was the most powerful blow register, it had the potential of breaking ribs, puncher lungs and a bunch of other damage.

Please don't setup anything for your friend he may die from just one blow, it happens all the time in boxing.

LOL, that might be stupidest comment yet no offence... You can also get cancer from eating carrots and meat...and u might die fom it.. Will it stop u from eating em?... didnt think so

bonviveur sounded like common sense to me and you look like you want your friend to die

Did you get a new visa?

You might go to jail for setting this up.

You lost me there BKK

What you wrote makes perfect sense. And in AA replies and postings it sounds like he wants his friend to die

And in his other Forums the past year his been complain of having No where to live and no money as well as not having a visa

We all know a persons situation and reality never changes until they post about it...... Why go to an unrelated thread and.... nevermind......

[technocracy]

Get serious guys , its our favorite TROLL

in action . Thai boxing is one the most devastating martial arts in the world .

( especially by top fit athletes like Anderson Silva )

The not so much physical martial arts sports like Pencak Silat , Kendo etc loose it to powerful

martial arts sports as Muy Thai and wrestling and full contact Karate , the only survivor which can be considered technical is clearly Jiu Jitsu .Just look at the UFC and Pride organisations and look what is left of most martial arts in real practise ......

I guess this is directed towards me since I am the only one who has mentioned Pencak Silat.

So let me say - don't talk utter shit.

Next Pencak Silat and Kali/Escrima have absolutely nothing to do with Kendo which is essential Japanese fencing (what this has got to do with anything is another question!). Regardless however you want to put it Thai boxing is a sport - opposed to a pure martial art and no it isn't 'devastating' in it's purest form that's why you rarely see TKOs in bouts - I've watch quite a few at Lumpini and been bored shitless by it.

I think you'll find that the UFC and PRIDE fighter use various different styles during a fight opposed to a pure style (hence they are call MMA organisations). What styles UFC fighters use are going to be agressive forward moving heavy blows selected from different forms and also the easiest to execute since it's essential street fighting in a ring. From Thai boxing the obvious is the elbow to the head . . if landed it's often a knock out blow - that said this is apparently illegal move in the PRIDE rules (not that I've ever seen a PRIDE fight). I don't ever recall seeing a grappling fight down at Lumpini or a 'stomp TKO'... :

A fight between 2 differing styles will have varying outcomes depending on the proficiency of the fighters - Thai Boxing is a very simple style with easy to accomplish moves most are based on them being the aggressor and throwing the punches/kicks/elbows. Pencak Silat on the other hand utilises the opponents body shifts in throwing punches etc to gain the advantage - once that advantage is gain the moves are designed to finish the fight within the single attack.

As for other fighting styles your obsession with TV, UFC and Pride and your actual lack of knowledge about real martial arts makes your comments above even more rediculous.

There is still many practised and widely taught martial arts - just because they don't use them on TV doesn't mean they aren't effective. :

[dingdongrb]

On the internet, Im 6'11 weighing 150 kgs of pure muscle, Im a expert in Wrestling, Karate, Tae whatever do, boxing, Thai boxing, kickboxing, brazillian jujitsu. I eat nails for breakfast and brush my teeth with a bbq brush.

And in real life, what, you're a 90 lb (wet) 5'6" little boy still sucking his thumb under his mommy's skirt?

[mrtoad]

On the internet, Im 6'11 weighing 150 kgs of pure muscle, Im a expert in Wrestling, Karate, Tae whatever do, boxing, Thai boxing, kickboxing, brazillian jujitsu. I eat nails for breakfast and brush my teeth with a bbq brush.

And in real life, what, you're a 90 lb (wet) 5'6" little boy still sucking his thumb under his mommy's skirt?

Or he just me being ironic.

As for Adventure Asia, I'm pretty sure he's good at guarding bridges and threatening goats.

[Huey]

I occasionally Train at Fairtex in the Samut Prakarn area, but they have one in Pattaya too. Just let him go play there, they have some cats that will give him a good fight.

[steveromagnino]

I think you'll find that the UFC and PRIDE fighter use various different styles during a fight opposed to a pure style (hence they are call MMA organisations). What styles UFC fighters use are going to be agressive forward moving heavy blows selected from different forms and also the easiest to execute since it's essential street fighting in a ring. From Thai boxing the obvious is the elbow to the head . . if landed it's often a knock out blow - that said this is apparently illegal move in the PRIDE rules (not that I've ever seen a PRIDE fight). I don't ever recall seeing a grappling fight down at Lumpini or a 'stomp TKO'... :

There is still many practised and widely taught martial arts - just because they don't use them on TV doesn't mean they aren't effective. :

I also have not seen PRIDE although have watched the chaos that is UFC. This is a typical conversation between various fighting sports that serves not much purpose.

It is not possible to compare the effectiveness of grappling type sports vs. Muay Thai vs. martial arts. Muay Thai is not really a martial art; it is like boxing; a fighting sport under controlled conditions; as the conditions have changed, so have the styles of Muay Thai.

K1 is basically toned down Muay Thai; the big names in both K1 maxx and K1 are mostly either Muay Thai fighters, or martial arts which share many of the same benefits as Muay Thai - non telegraphing shin kicks; powerful arms; solid defense; good footwork and balance. If they allowed full Muay Thai rules, then it would be almost impossible for any other sport/martial art to win under those conditions; Muay Thai has evolved to provide the best possible attacks and defenses with the rules in place.

If you were to allow grappling, then Muay Thai as it exists currently would be at a massive disadvantage; it has limited grappling since fighting stops once someone is thrown to the ground. This is why you would never see a Muay Thai specialist win at something like Pride or UFC; they are going to be unsuited to any fighting which allows grappling. I presume Brazilian ju jitsu is probably still the dominant art there?

I don't know what this Philipino art is, but it sounds like some sort of grappling is involved + weapons - there is little point in mentioning it in the same sentence as Muay Thai, they are completely different. If it is a fight with grappling, then probably Muay Thai is not going to work.

There are sports out there and styles out there (such as Wing Chun, MMA taught to the SAS and other groups) that encourage major incapacitating blows to the throat, knees, etc - Muay Thai has few counters against any of them, because they aren't allowed in the rules of Muay Thai - that was never the point of why Muay Thai has evolved the way it has.

Having trained Muay Thai before and having sparred various other arts under Muay Thai style rules, i am happy with the sport I played, and think it would be probably a good safe street fighting technique to know, given that I could block them/hit once; open space, then run like hel_l. Not sure I would ever want to practise hitting someone in the throat, poke out their eye etc - sure I would win the fight, but at what cost to the other guy?!

Incidentally, general wisdom in a street situation (as I can attest having been in a couple of altercations) is under no circumstances end up on the ground; with multiple people around and no rules, that is a recipe for some football practise sans ball for the surrounding thugs. Nah - quick elbow or knee is enough combined with some good angles and footwork. And the only way to prepare for that is practise; again Muay Thai training is all full power, into targets/pads with attack/counter/counterattack style training plus sparring; any other sport similarly trained will drill in that mindless ability to block/attack etc without having to think. not sure I'd be keen to mindlessly slash out with a knife but to each their own.

Enough of the which one is best already - under Muay Thai rules I can pretty much guarantee if there was a better art we would have seen it already. Under other rules, Muay Thai is irrelevant.

If he wants a fair fight, yeah going to most gyms he could arrange something.

Edited April 16, 2008 by steveromagnino