Prv To Canada

[meme]

My husband and I are thinking about moving to Canada for a couple of years.

He has had 3 TRVs and has one 10 year multiple entry tourist visa to the US.

We have been living(and working) in Thailand for the past 5 years.

Would it be better to apply from Thailand or should I go home, get a job an apt and then apply? Can you even apply to sponsor someone if you do not live or work in Canada but plan on going back when they get their residency?

Could my mother sponsor him? She has a job, a house etc. I basically would not like to go home and wait 6 months for him to be able to come over. SO if she or we could sponsor him perhaps it would move things along as she already has security in Canada.

Would he have to stay in Canada for a certain amount of time before he could go back to visit Thailand?

If he was already in Canada on a TRV is it illegal/wrong to apply for a PRv while he is there?

Edited October 26, 2008 by meme

[thaiwalker]

My husband and I are thinking about moving to Canada for a couple of years.

He has had 3 TRVs and has one 10 year multiple entry tourist visa to the US.

We have been living(and working) in Thailand for the past 5 years.

Would it be better to apply from Thailand or should I go home, get a job an apt and then apply? Can you even apply to sponsor someone if you do not live or work in Canada but plan on going back when they get their residency?

Could my mother sponsor him? She has a job, a house etc. I basically would not like to go home and wait 6 months for him to be able to come over. SO if she or we could sponsor him perhaps it would move things along as she already has security in Canada.

Would he have to stay in Canada for a certain amount of time before he could go back to visit Thailand?

If he was already in Canada on a TRV is it illegal/wrong to apply for a PRv while he is there?

Yes, you can sponsor someone without physically living in Canada. You and your husband would do an outland application. Read up! http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

You would need to show immigration that you have plans to re-establish in Canada once your husband has been approved his PRV. You would have to show that you both have a place to live and a job waiting for you. You could personally own a place or lease one, or you can even have a family member or friend write a letter of support saying they would put you both up until you are settled and working.

Your mother cannot sponsor him unless she lives in Alberta or Manitoba, then she can look into the Provincial Nominee Program there; Alberta: http://www.albertacanada.com/immigration/immigrate/ainp.html, Manitoba: http://www.gov.mb.ca/labour/immigrate/pnp/index.html

She can, however, write a letter of support for accomodation, finances and moral!

Once he is approved his PRV and lands, from that day on he must be in Canada for 730 days for the next 5 years. These 730 days do not have to be consecutive stays in Canada. This is for his PRV to not expire and then he can eventually file for citizenship.

If he can go to Canada on a TRV he can stay there while his application for a PRV is in process. This would be the inland application process and since he has good standing with other visas, he can do either, it is your decision/option.

Hope this helps! Good luck meme

tw

[meme]

My husband and I are thinking about moving to Canada for a couple of years.

He has had 3 TRVs and has one 10 year multiple entry tourist visa to the US.

We have been living(and working) in Thailand for the past 5 years.

Would it be better to apply from Thailand or should I go home, get a job an apt and then apply? Can you even apply to sponsor someone if you do not live or work in Canada but plan on going back when they get their residency?

Could my mother sponsor him? She has a job, a house etc. I basically would not like to go home and wait 6 months for him to be able to come over. SO if she or we could sponsor him perhaps it would move things along as she already has security in Canada.

Would he have to stay in Canada for a certain amount of time before he could go back to visit Thailand?

If he was already in Canada on a TRV is it illegal/wrong to apply for a PRv while he is there?

Yes, you can sponsor someone without physically living in Canada. You and your husband would do an outland application. Read up! http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

You would need to show immigration that you have plans to re-establish in Canada once your husband has been approved his PRV. You would have to show that you both have a place to live and a job waiting for you. You could personally own a place or lease one, or you can even have a family member or friend write a letter of support saying they would put you both up until you are settled and working.

Your mother cannot sponsor him unless she lives in Alberta or Manitoba, then she can look into the Provincial Nominee Program there; Alberta: http://www.albertacanada.com/immigration/immigrate/ainp.html, Manitoba: http://www.gov.mb.ca/labour/immigrate/pnp/index.html

She can, however, write a letter of support for accomodation, finances and moral!

Once he is approved his PRV and lands, from that day on he must be in Canada for 730 days for the next 5 years. These 730 days do not have to be consecutive stays in Canada. This is for his PRV to not expire and then he can eventually file for citizenship.

If he can go to Canada on a TRV he can stay there while his application for a PRV is in process. This would be the inland application process and since he has good standing with other visas, he can do either, it is your decision/option.

Hope this helps! Good luck meme

tw

Bless ya TW!

Thanks for all that info.

My mother does live in Manitoba and we will be returning to Winnipeg.

I doubt we will have jobs or a place lined up if we apply from Thailand as we will have to physically be there to find all of that. Do you think with a letter from my mother saying that she will provide us with a place and any financial help until we get set up on our own would be enough to get him his Prv?

Also, in those 730 days could he come and go as he pleases? I mean he would be looking at a month trip home once a year basically.

If he went to Canada on a 6 month Trv, would that be enough time to process the Prv? and no one would hold it against him that he got in the country on a Trv?

And last question!

Once he has a Prv what then? I doubt he would want citizenship as we plan to live long term in Thailand. Would this mean he would have to continue to renew his Prv and how often would he have to renew it and is that even possible if he is not living in Canada long term?

Phew Ok done with the questions!

Thanks so much

[TornedoX]

Hi Meme

You are always very active with canada visa related posts and giving good advices to others realted to TRV. So now you are planning to have PRV, great and good luck

Some of my knowledge sharing, to sponsor a spouse there is no income or finalcial requirement but you cannot be under social assistance from the govt. The PRV visa processing for spouse is very faster now, I suggest you go to Canada and apply for your husband and hopefully it will be processed within 4 months. Infact outland application is processed faster than the inland application now-a-days.

Since he has the TRV, you can choose the option of inland processing but be informed that the immigration and embassy folks dont like this. The main eligibility for TRV is that you dont intend to live there permannently but a short visit. So if he goes there with TRV and try to change to PRV, they assume you are misuing visa process and do more strict scrutiny.....and ofcourse incase if PRV is not approved for any reason, he will NEVER get TRV in future becasue embassy folks wont believe him anymore.

Onemore thing, dont worry much about money, housing etc. most important thing to receive PRV is to prove the authenticity of your relation.

Please dont forget to keep us posted how things are going, it will be very useful for us.

Best of luck for your PRV journey!

[meme]

name='TornedoX' post='2297817' date='2008-10-27 23:46:43']Hi Meme

You are always very active with canada visa related posts and giving good advices to others realted to TRV. So now you are planning to have PRV, great and good luc

Hi TX,

Thanks! I try to be helpful as I can..good forum karma;)

We are not sure when this will happen but could be in the next 6 months to a year..

Some of my knowledge sharing, to sponsor a spouse there is no income or finalcial requirement but you cannot be under social assistance from the govt. The PRV visa processing for spouse is very faster now, I suggest you go to Canada and apply for your husband and hopefully it will be processed within 4 months. Infact outland application is processed faster than the inland application now-a-days.

Wow that is interesting I would think inbound applications would be faster. Good to know.

Since he has the TRV, you can choose the option of inland processing but be informed that the immigration and embassy folks dont like this. The main eligibility for TRV is that you dont intend to live there permannently but a short visit. So if he goes there with TRV and try to change to PRV, they assume you are misuing visa process and do more strict scrutiny.....and ofcourse incase if PRV is not approved for any reason, he will NEVER get TRV in future becasue embassy folks wont believe him anymore.

Yes! This is what I thought. OK well outbound it is then.

Onemore thing, dont worry much about money, housing etc. most important thing to receive PRV is to prove the authenticity of your relation.

Great that is good to know. No problem there.

Please dont forget to keep us posted how things are going, it will be very useful for us.

I will definitely do that, Im sure to have lots of questions during the process.

Best of luck for your PRV journey!

Thanks so much

Edited October 27, 2008 by meme

[mmushr00m]

Hi meme

I am currently going thru the process to get a PRV for my wife.

In asia the process is handled through the Cdn embassy in S'pore. We are doing it through a consultant back home (Toronto) and she has said that as long as the relationship is legitamite and a spouse is a canadian citizen getting a PRV should be no problem. Although I do have worries about that as I have read (like above) that the sponsoring spouse (me) will need a job in Canada making C$50k etc etc.

[thaiwalker]

Bless ya TW!

Thanks for all that info.

My mother does live in Manitoba and we will be returning to Winnipeg.

I doubt we will have jobs or a place lined up if we apply from Thailand as we will have to physically be there to find all of that. Do you think with a letter from my mother saying that she will provide us with a place and any financial help until we get set up on our own would be enough to get him his Prv?

Also, in those 730 days could he come and go as he pleases? I mean he would be looking at a month trip home once a year basically.

If he went to Canada on a 6 month Trv, would that be enough time to process the Prv? and no one would hold it against him that he got in the country on a Trv?

And last question!

Once he has a Prv what then? I doubt he would want citizenship as we plan to live long term in Thailand. Would this mean he would have to continue to renew his Prv and how often would he have to renew it and is that even possible if he is not living in Canada long term?

Phew Ok done with the questions!

Thanks so much

meme,

Any letter of support from family or friends shows CIC that your relationship is known to others (not hidden) and that you both have moral support and financial, if need be. I wouldn't say this would guarantee a PRV for your husband since there are many documents required for the process. Proving to CIC that your relationship is genuine and continuing is very important.

Yes, he may come and go as he pleases. The 730 days is not continuous through the 5 years, it must be 730 out of 1825 days that he is in Canada. If he were to let his PRV discontinue, then you would have to go through the whole, rigourous process again ! I think after obtaining his PRV, you may change your mind on applying for citizenship. But then again, he has 5 years to decide that!

If he obtains a TRV and then applies for his PRV, immigration cannot 'kick' him out of the country. He would simply apply for an extension of his TRV through CPC-Vegriville (AB) and explain that he is awaiting the decision of his PRV. I agree with TornedoX when he says that applying like this will not look good in the eyes of CIC, even though the CAN embassy here tells this to some people. If there is ever a chance he was denied PRV, then getting a TRV would be impossible? I heard of one guy who got his sponsorship approval, while being in Canada, his wife then applied for a TRV, while being in Thailand, and the embassy gave it to them since they knew he was approved to sponsor her. They are in Canada, living together, and awaiting the PRV from Singapore. The embassy called it 'dual intent'.

Good luck!

tw