Father's Name On Birth Certificate

[Steel]

I believe the father's name has to be given on a Thai birth certificate. What happens if the mother doesn't know the father's name? This must be a common problem so any ideas?

[bkkjames]

I believe the father's name has to be given on a Thai birth certificate. What happens if the mother doesn't know the father's name? This must be a common problem so any ideas?

Not a bad opening post to which I must say - tell the girl your last name next time.

[Steel]

Not a bad opening post to which I must say - tell the girl your last name next time.

This is a serious question. My mate's ex turned up 5 months pregnant telling him the baby was his, he didn't want anything to do with it but helped her financially. Once the money stopped the girl 'disappeared', with hindsight he doesn't think the baby is his but he's worried about whether she could have put his name on the birth certificate without his knowledge and this may come back to haunt him in the future, although he's pretty certain she doesn't know his surname.

He's been told that a father's name must be entered on the certificate with his consent, but that doesn't make sense given the number of girls who can't possibly know the father's name.

Either they can leave the name as 'unknown', they persuade someone else to take on the role, or they put the real name (whoever that may be).

Does anyone know the format for this?

Edited October 27, 2008 by Steel

[bkkjames]

Not a bad opening post to which I must say - tell the girl your last name next time.

This is a serious question. My mate's ex turned up 5 months pregnant telling him the baby was his, he didn't want anything to do with it but helped her financially. Once the money stopped the girl 'disappeared', with hindsight he doesn't think the baby is his but he's worried about whether she could have put his name on the birth certificate without his knowledge and this may come back to haunt him in the future, although he's pretty certain she doesn't know his surname.

He's been told that a father's name must be entered on the certificate with his consent, but that doesn't make sense given the number of girls who can't possibly know the father's name.

Either they can leave the name as 'unknown', they persuade someone else to take on the role, or they put the real name (whoever that may be).

Does anyone know the format for this?

I don't know how putting his name on the birth certificate without at least 10 pages of photocopy this and that with stamps and signatures is anything to worry about.

[TerryLH]

What would they do in your country if the girl doesn't know the fathers name?

Probably pretty much the same here.

[Tim207]

I believe the father's name has to be given on a Thai birth certificate. What happens if the mother doesn't know the father's name? This must be a common problem so any ideas?

The name on the birth certificate is what the mother says it is. That being said, your name on a birth certificate does not make you legally liable for anything. It only gives the child your last name. To be financially responsible you would have to accept the child as yours or have it proven by testing and that financial liability would only be inforced by your home country.

I always wonder what kind of piece of shit would leave their child to grow up without any support. This friend should want to know if it is his and want to make sure it is ok if it is his. Funny how some guys think a baby is theirs until they don't want the mother and then they decide the baby probably isn't theirs.

Tell your friend to be a man or go down to Phuket for their special surgery and have those things between his legs changed to suit him better.

[Spaniel]

I believe the father's name has to be given on a Thai birth certificate. What happens if the mother doesn't know the father's name? This must be a common problem so any ideas?

The name on the birth certificate is what the mother says it is. That being said, your name on a birth certificate does not make you legally liable for anything. It only gives the child your last name. To be financially responsible you would have to accept the child as yours or have it proven by testing and that financial liability would only be inforced by your home country.

I always wonder what kind of piece of shit would leave their child to grow up without any support. This friend should want to know if it is his and want to make sure it is ok if it is his. Funny how some guys think a baby is theirs until they don't want the mother and then they decide the baby probably isn't theirs.

Tell your friend to be a man or go down to Phuket for their special surgery and have those things between his legs changed to suit him better.

Tim,

Well said. I agree.

[Steel]

I always wonder what kind of piece of shit would leave their child to grow up without any support. This friend should want to know if it is his and want to make sure it is ok if it is his. Funny how some guys think a baby is theirs until they don't want the mother and then they decide the baby probably isn't theirs.

Tell your friend to be a man or go down to Phuket for their special surgery and have those things between his legs changed to suit him better.

It's amazing how you have jumped to the conclusion that he is completely in the wrong.

It was only the answer to the initial question that was required; but to give a more complete picture the 'relationship' had ended way before she turned up pregnant because he found out she was still working in the bar. Sound familiar? He couldn't possibly know who is the father of the child without a DNA test, he felt sorry for the girl and helped her out financially until the baby was born as she couldn't work while pregnant. Once she was able to work again he told her he wouldn't support her indefinitely; then suddenly she couldn't be contacted.

He is only concerned that if he isn't the father that he won't be held responsible, after all it could probably be any one of the many customers she'd had whilst still pretending she was his girlfriend.

Have you heard the scam about the girls who dump their half Farang baby in the babies home and turn up once a month to take its photo so they can send it to half a dozen Western guys to ask for support for his child?!!

There are two sides to every story and not everything is as it first seems in LOS.

[imaneggspurt]

Perhaps it can be T.B.A

[Tim207]

It's amazing how you have jumped to the conclusion that he is completely in the wrong.

It was only the answer to the initial question that was required; but to give a more complete picture the 'relationship' had ended way before she turned up pregnant because he found out she was still working in the bar.

It ended more than 5 months prior?

Sound familiar? He couldn't possibly know who is the father of the child without a DNA test, he felt sorry for the girl and helped her out financially until the baby was born as she couldn't work while pregnant. Once she was able to work again he told her he wouldn't support her indefinitely; then suddenly she couldn't be contacted.

And why would she want anything to do with the guy if they had broken up previously and now he isn't even willing to support the baby?

He is only concerned that if he isn't the father that he won't be held responsible, after all it could probably be any one of the many customers she'd had whilst still pretending she was his girlfriend.

Seems to me there is no "if" in his mind. He has already made the convenient conclusion that he is not the father.

Might I remind you of this quote,

"My mate's ex turned up 5 months pregnant telling him the baby was his, he didn't want anything to do with it but helped her financially. Once the money stopped the girl 'disappeared', with hindsight he doesn't think the baby is his"

He didn't want anything to do with the baby but supported her until she could go back to work. IN HINDSIGHT, He used the fact that if he isn't supporting her she wants nothing to do with him as evidence that the baby isn't his. If that was only in hindsight then it follows that previously he believed the baby was his even though he knew she was working in a bar. So what has changed other than the fact that she wants nothing to do with him if he won't help her and the baby? AS you said earlier "he didn't want anything to do with it".

I am not blind to the fact that many bar girls scam farangs and this could be a scam. If it was me I would want to KNOW one way or the other. A simple blood type check can tell you if it is possible and if so, you do a DNA test. It is the responsible, adult thing to do. You make a mistake, you pay for it. You don't make a kid pay for your mistakes. I am not saying he should be giving fists full of money to the girl but he should make sure the kid has what it needs even if he is just sending a couple of thousand baht once in a while to the grandma that is probably taking care of it.

BTW: The kid will have his last name if he is on the birth certificate. It can be changed to the mother's name through the courts after about a year but can be a huge hassle. So any legal reference to the child such as medical records, house registration, school enrollment will have his last name.

Edited October 27, 2008 by Tim207