Chamlong Leads Pad Guards To Seize Areas Outside Government House

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Chamlong leads PAD guards to seize areas outside Government House

AT 5:20 pm Sunday, Chamlong Srimuang, a leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, led teams of PAD guards to secure areas outside Parliament in preparations to besiege Parliament Monday.

The guards secured areas near the Sanam Suapa ground and the Royal Plaza. They started blocking the roads with barbed wires, metal barricades and tyres.

PAD guards also built a wall to block the Phitsanulok Road near the Education Ministry behind the Metropolitan Police head office.

The Nation

copy/paste from the nation: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingne...newsid=30089149

[1000baht]

Supposedly 800 supporters are on thier way up from Phuket.

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Supposedly 800 supporters are on thier way up from Phuket.

Don't know how many in total....but seems to be a lot.

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All from The Nation:

PAD supporters fully occupy roads outside Government House

By 5:50 pm, protesters fully occupied the Rajdamnone Nok and Phitsanulok outside the Government House.

The protesters occupied the Rajdamnone Nok Road from Misakawan Intersection to Makkhawan Rangsan Bridge.

More protesters continued to join the rally.

The Nation

PAD-led protest to seize Royal Plaza area by 7pm

By The Nation

Anti-government protesters led by People's Alliance for Democracy plan to march from the Government and seize the Royal Plaza area at 7pm, a PAD leader said Sunday.

Somsak Kosaisuk said that by 7pm the Royal Plaza area near the Parliament will be occupied by the protesters. They will march to the Parliament on Monday morning to block the government's MPs from propose charter amendments which paved ways for ex-PM Thaksin Shinwatra from returning home.

He vowed that this is the last fight of the protesters who will not return home if they did not win.

Somsak also suggested the protesters to prepare clothes in case police fired tear gas to disperse them like during the protest on October 7.

Meanwhile Gen Pathompong Kesornsuk, former advisor of the Thai army told the crowds that on Monday the protesters should strictly follow recommendations of the PAD leaders.

"If we follow the orders of the leaders strictly, we will win over the government for sure," he told the cheering crowds.

Meanwhile another PAD's leader Pipob Thongchai asked the protesters to observe a minute of silence in condolence for a PAD guard, Anupong Samerpak, who was killed in the latest attack on Saturday.

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from the nation:

About 1,000 policemen deployed to guard Parliament

As of Sunday evening, more than 1,000 policemen were already positioned in and around the Parliament House.

Iron barricades also went up on the adjacent Uthong Nai Road.

Moreover, up to 15 large fire trucks are parked in the neighbourhood.

The Nation

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingne...newsid=30089157

[Gary A]

Nearly any other country on earth would shoot anarchists. PAD should go to Burma, Laos, Cambodia, China or Vietnam and try those tactics. Seizing government property and blocking roads would bring a very violent response from police and soldiers if they were needed.

[Nampeung]

Please keep updating H90, thanks

[girlx]

pretty scary- i drove by there today in a taxi and the sheer number of police and rescue personnel out there was amazing. feels like a war coming.

[IMA_FARANG]

Nearly any other country on earth would shoot anarchists. PAD should go to Burma, Laos, Cambodia, China or Vietnam and try those tactics. Seizing government property and blocking roads would bring a very violent response from police and soldiers if they were needed.

This started as a informative seires of posts....I am here in Greece trying to follow what is happening in Thailand. The last thing I want is people cutting in with their political opinions. Can I ask politely if we can have one thread of posts that simply provide news of what is occuring, and please can we keep the opinions in other threads?

I don't mind opinions, everyone is free to have theirs. I might even sympathise with them. But I would like a thread that simply has the news...as it happens...and not opinions.

Edited November 23, 2008 by IMA_FARANG

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Nearly any other country on earth would shoot anarchists. PAD should go to Burma, Laos, Cambodia, China or Vietnam and try those tactics. Seizing government property and blocking roads would bring a very violent response from police and soldiers if they were needed.

In nearly any other country this government would stay in jail already since 10 years.

By the way I can't recall any European country which shoot on demonstrators (neither violent nor peaceful demonstrators) the last 10 years, so you refer to which countries?

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PAD to Wait for Morning Before Marching to Parliament

UPDATE : 23 November 2008

Due to security concerns the People's Alliance for Democracy has decided not to march to Parliament at 7 p.m. tonight. The PAD leaders will meet again tomorrow morning to discuss their next moves.

PAD coordinator Suriyasai Katasila told the PAD protesters that the leaders have agreed not to march to Parliament at 7 p.m. as initially planned tonight. For security reasons the protesters will remain firmly within and around the compound of Government House until morning.

From TOC: http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/toc/ViewData...?DataID=1010704

[Tod]

Nearly any other country on earth would shoot anarchists. PAD should go to Burma, Laos, Cambodia, China or Vietnam and try those tactics. Seizing government property and blocking roads would bring a very violent response from police and soldiers if they were needed.

This started as a informative seires of posts....I am here in Greece trying to follow what is happening in Thailand. The last thing I want is people cutting in with their political opinions. Can I ask politely if we can have one thread of posts that simply provide news of what is occuring, and please can we keep the opinions in other threads?

I don't mind opinions, everyone is free to have theirs. I might even sympathise with them. But I would like a thread that simply has the news...as it happens...and not opinions.

Great idea dude!!!! Seriously...Awesome!

You should create a forum where nobody is allowed to give is opinion...Would work for sure!

It would'nt be called a forum anymore but that's alright.

Or, on the other hand, If you only want the facts with no opinions you could go there for example

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/

[phildavid]

Nearly any other country on earth would shoot anarchists. PAD should go to Burma, Laos, Cambodia, China or Vietnam and try those tactics. Seizing government property and blocking roads would bring a very violent response from police and soldiers if they were needed.

cause every country should try and emulate burma's approach to human rights.

[Gary A]

It is my opinion that PAD is trying to goad the elected government into violence. In turn the army would stage another coup. That's my opinion and I'm certainly entitled to it. If this mob has it the way they want it, Thailand's citizens will have no opportunity to vote again because the elite will appoint the government. It appears that some farangs cannot see this.

[h90]

Nearly any other country on earth would shoot anarchists. PAD should go to Burma, Laos, Cambodia, China or Vietnam and try those tactics. Seizing government property and blocking roads would bring a very violent response from police and soldiers if they were needed.

This started as a informative seires of posts....I am here in Greece trying to follow what is happening in Thailand. The last thing I want is people cutting in with their political opinions. Can I ask politely if we can have one thread of posts that simply provide news of what is occuring, and please can we keep the opinions in other threads?

I don't mind opinions, everyone is free to have theirs. I might even sympathise with them. But I would like a thread that simply has the news...as it happens...and not opinions.

Great idea dude!!!! Seriously...Awesome!

You should create a forum where nobody is allowed to give is opinion...Would work for sure!

It would'nt be called a forum anymore but that's alright.

Or, on the other hand, If you only want the facts with no opinions you could go there for example

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/

1) You will not use thaivisa.com to post any material which is knowingly or can be reasonably construed as false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, referencing prostitution (including bargirls and barboys), referencing suicide, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law.

[h90]

It is my opinion that PAD is trying to goad the elected government into violence. In turn the army would stage another coup. That's my opinion and I'm certainly entitled to it. If this mob has it the way they want it, Thailand's citizens will have no opportunity to vote again because the elite will appoint the government. It appears that some farangs cannot see this.

where do you get this nonsense from?

[jdinasia]

Nearly any other country on earth would shoot anarchists. PAD should go to Burma, Laos, Cambodia, China or Vietnam and try those tactics. Seizing government property and blocking roads would bring a very violent response from police and soldiers if they were needed.

Nice post Gary! Let's see .. you picked Burma (sic) ruled by a military junta, Laos China and Vietnam all communist countries, and Cambodia which is controlled by a despot! You didn't pick the USA or France or England etc etc etc and we all know why

Your vocabulary could use a bit of work too since the PAD are not anarchists

[Ta22]

look at the bright side , in this poor economy , PAD is providing part time job , as many protestor do get money for their task ,

as well as . a bomb of PAD tourist in bangkok . seem like alot of the local hawker food store and street vendor will have extra income . and not to say the PAD - Survial kits as well as the best seller of hand clapper . will sure be out of stock soon . i wonder who is selling all those PAD kits ., must be making a boom from all this .

wait .. i wonder if there is a 3 baht fee for the toilet .. as well as . look at the extra job create , people need to clean up the street extra worker need to be hire to tidy the usual mess that PAD leave . good eg. is the last protest .

when thing is damage , money is spend to repair it .

wow . what great way to move the bad economy now .

i think at this rate . every country should follow foot . so to beat the economy down turn .

PAD is so smart .

[bruceboy]

^Good thoughts and post.

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Sondhi: PAD to Launch Its Next Move at 6 a.m. Tomorrow

UPDATE : 23 November 2008

PAD leader Sondhi Limthongul took the PAD stage at Government House briefly to address one of the largest gatherings of PAD supporters.

The PAD leader revealed that the PAD will launch its next move tomorrow at 6 a.m.

But the PAD leader declined to give the details of the PAD's next moves. However he hinted that there may be different groups travelling to protest at various locations. One of the destinations could be the residence of General Kattiya Sawasdipol or General Daeng.

General Kattiya has always been vocal about his threats for the PAD to vacate the Government House.

TOC: http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/toc/ViewData...?DataID=1010705

from the speech 8:43: Today we'll not announce anything so our enemies have no time to prepare.

[h90]

look at the bright side , in this poor economy , PAD is providing part time job , as many protestor do get money for their task ,

as well as . a bomb of PAD tourist in bangkok . seem like alot of the local hawker food store and street vendor will have extra income . and not to say the PAD - Survial kits as well as the best seller of hand clapper . will sure be out of stock soon . i wonder who is selling all those PAD kits ., must be making a boom from all this .

wait .. i wonder if there is a 3 baht fee for the toilet .. as well as . look at the extra job create , people need to clean up the street extra worker need to be hire to tidy the usual mess that PAD leave . good eg. is the last protest .

when thing is damage , money is spend to repair it .

wow . what great way to move the bad economy now .

i think at this rate . every country should follow foot . so to beat the economy down turn .

PAD is so smart .

That the protesters are paid is a well known lie. Well known is also that Sondhi is almost bankrupt. now estimate 200.000 people....who can pay that?

I know in total maybe 100 people thru my staff and family and not one got any payment. And as posted before they would like to know where to get the money.

Fact a lie from the PPP. Distributed under the good old Goebbels theory: If you repeat it often enough people will believe it.

[Ta22]

i say many i did not say all . you seem to know all the fact . whahha beside posting what is already on the net as NEWS what do you know ?>

human is usually easily fool all you need is to pay a few guy and alot of groupy would follow .

look at all kinda weird religion out there .

is alway common to have blind follower .

all you do is pay the right person to get it moving .

- PAD do make alot of money from all this protest and when some guy die there get more donation .

you can alway see it on the ASTV . assuming there get donation in the million when the last protestor die and there made it such a huge event that many people came to donate and alot of the money do go back to PAD instead of the person who die .

anyway . i care less . about your report non about PAD . just giving my pointof view.

I wonder if you are PAD whahahhaa

i think MOD should close this thread cos is just another news clip and is also open for all kinda problem for the forum .

is no point to debate if it lie or truth cos the FACT is you do not know also . and you are guessing .

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the protestor get paid FACT had long been out . go ask your THAI friends.

in thailand paying 200,000 protestor is really a small bill to cover if you undertsand the magnitude of the protest and the player in it .

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chances is you do not need to pay all 200,000 protestor all you got to do is pay like 10,000-30,000 protestor and alot all follow .

anyway i do not know how many get paid so don't ask me to give you a figure .

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at the end of the days like i had said .

Want to know who isthe PLAYER TARCE the money .

NO MONEY NO PROTEST .

NO MONEY NO CONFLICT

NO MONEY NO PROBLEM .

.

Have a wonderful day . i think we should spend our life in more meaningful way then to report on what we we can read online .

[Gary A]

It is my opinion that PAD is trying to goad the elected government into violence. In turn the army would stage another coup. That's my opinion and I'm certainly entitled to it. If this mob has it the way they want it, Thailand's citizens will have no opportunity to vote again because the elite will appoint the government. It appears that some farangs cannot see this.

where do you get this nonsense from?

Well excuse me! PAD would appoint only 70 percent, not all so I guess there would still be elections. Nonsense? You better do some more reading.

If citizens in the UK or the USA tried to over run, seize government offices and block roads, do you think there would be no violent repercussions? Peaceful demonstration?

OK, go ahead and carry on with your crusade. I'm done.

[h90]

i say many i did not say all . you seem to know all the fact . whahha beside posting what is already on the net as NEWS what do you know ?>

human is usually easily fool all you need is to pay a few guy and alot of groupy would follow .

look at all kinda weird religion out there .

is alway common to have blind follower .

all you do is pay the right person to get it moving .

- PAD do make alot of money from all this protest and when some guy die there get more donation .

you can alway see it on the ASTV . assuming there get donation in the million when the last protestor die and there made it such a huge event that many people came to donate and alot of the money do go back to PAD instead of the person who die .

anyway . i care less . about your report non about PAD . just giving my pointof view.

I wonder if you are PAD whahahhaa

i think MOD should close this thread cos is just another news clip and is also open for all kinda problem for the forum .

is no point to debate if it lie or truth cos the FACT is you do not know also . and you are guessing .

.

the protestor get paid FACT had long been out . go ask your THAI friends.

in thailand paying 200,000 protestor is really a small bill to cover if you undertsand the magnitude of the protest and the player in it .

.

chances is you do not need to pay all 200,000 protestor all you got to do is pay like 10,000-30,000 protestor and alot all follow .

anyway i do not know how many get paid so don't ask me to give you a figure .

.

at the end of the days like i had said .

Want to know who isthe PLAYER TARCE the money .

NO MONEY NO PROTEST .

NO MONEY NO CONFLICT

NO MONEY NO PROBLEM .

.

Have a wonderful day . i think we should spend our life in more meaningful way then to report on what we we can read online .

Well believe what you want......If you think the PAD is about money......than OK let it be so......

Today it is late, but when you have some time, do some homework....google a bit about Thaksin and corruption, abuse of power, undermining the monarchy and you'll find out why the educated Thais are there and donate money (and not receive).

[Ta22]

THe Fact that PAd want to Appoint their choosen one , had been made know since Samak . and it had bene used as excuse for carry on protest till now also .

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what Kinda Democracy is this .- the voice of Thailand is not done by a mere 200,000 protestor.

look at korea . when the beef crisis happen . there is proestor far more then the PAD . and much more peaceful ..

.

why not we rename thailand . PADLAND

- every moment that this is going on . is mocking the real Democracy .

if 200,000 thug and protestor can win - what i got to say is Democracy in thailand is jolly well as much like burma .

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history teaches me that is the educated and the man in suit that is alway the CHEATER .

the kinda farmer and the poor . is alway the victim .

at the moment .

history will tell .

be it good or bad if you do want to stay in thailand . i guess both of us and eveyrone should hope all this end soon .

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Taskin had done alot of thailand which many minister in the past had not done . .. in my view all politician take money . is a matter of if there take and do work or just take and take without work .

i am non supportor for any party - -

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and is time to move on .

200,000 do not speak for 70,000,000 thai .

Edited November 23, 2008 by Ta22

[h90]

It is my opinion that PAD is trying to goad the elected government into violence. In turn the army would stage another coup. That's my opinion and I'm certainly entitled to it. If this mob has it the way they want it, Thailand's citizens will have no opportunity to vote again because the elite will appoint the government. It appears that some farangs cannot see this.

where do you get this nonsense from?

Well excuse me! PAD would appoint only 70 percent, not all so I guess there would still be elections. Nonsense? You better do some more reading.

If citizens in the UK or the USA tried to over run, seize government offices and block roads, do you think there would be no violent repercussions? Peaceful demonstration?

OK, go ahead and carry on with your crusade. I'm done.

this is discussed 100 times....it is getting boring.

That 70 % was just an idea.

That 70 % also get elected. Like the labor union is electing one who sit for them in parliament. The rice farmer elect one of them who sit for their interests in the Parliament etc etc etc.....

just beside the Chiang Mai people elect a Chiang Mai MP, also the rice farmer elect a rice farmer MP.

You can read that in one of the "People's Alliance for Democracy Announcements".

Where do you get your wrong propaganda from? Do you sit in the middle in Isaan and listen only to the local headmans propaganda?

[jdinasia]

It is my opinion that PAD is trying to goad the elected government into violence. In turn the army would stage another coup. That's my opinion and I'm certainly entitled to it. If this mob has it the way they want it, Thailand's citizens will have no opportunity to vote again because the elite will appoint the government. It appears that some farangs cannot see this.

where do you get this nonsense from?

Well excuse me! PAD would appoint only 70 percent, not all so I guess there would still be elections. Nonsense? You better do some more reading.

If citizens in the UK or the USA tried to over run, seize government offices and block roads, do you think there would be no violent repercussions? Peaceful demonstration?

OK, go ahead and carry on with your crusade. I'm done.

Gary ... there are demonstrations all the time in the USA by large groups and they are never quashed by force.

Half a million people in LA alone not too long ago. Sit-ins ... anti-war rallies .... etc ... in fact the US is still paying a price for using violence at Kent State during the Vietnam war.

You can't cry for democracy and then use force to deal with opposition Gary

[Ta22]

i see no end to this since the OP is a support - like a cycle or debate chirstian - you get no where .

what ever said would be lie , not turth , spoken by the devil . the bad guy said it , we are caveman in issan who listen to the evil headman .

what is next Satan send taksin ?

like i suggest i think MOD should close this thread .

cos . many fact is not 100 % and is strongly base on one end supportor .

and a forum is better staying off such . topic . and stick to what is reported . then let member go wild goose chasing .

- in the end the forum might suffer for it . cos eithee side win . forum might be blame for allowing such topic .

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this is boring .

Edited November 23, 2008 by Ta22

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Number of police, soldiers at Parliament increased to 1,500

At 9 pm Sunday, more police and soldiers were deployed to Parliament, increasing their number to 1,500.

They used a large piece of iron sheet to block the gate, which is opposite from the Dusit Zoo.

The police and soldiers allowed officials to enter and leave the Parliament compound only through the Phichai Intersection Gate.

The Nation

from the Nation: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingne...newsid=30089193

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Sondhi says PAD will launch simultaneous protests at 6 am Monday

Sondhi Limthongkul, No 1 leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, told the crowd at Government House Sunday night that the PAD will launch simultaneous protests at several locations around the city at 6 am Monday.

Speaking to the crowd at 8 pm, Sondhi said the protesters should get themselves ready at 6 am for moving out to the houses of several leading government leaders to conduct simultaneous protests.

He hinted that the PAD would protest at the house of Chat Thai leader Banharn Silapa-archa and the house of Gen Kattiya Sawasdiphol among other locations.

Later, other PAD leaders said the protesters will launch protests at the house of Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, at the Stock Exchange of Thailand, and the Royal Thai Police head office as well.

The Nation

Let's meet at 6am Monday before marching to Parliament : Sonthi

By The Nation

Anti-government protesters were asked to meet at 6am on Monday before marching to the Parliament to block the government's bid to amend the constitution.

People's Alliance for Democracy's co-leader Sonthi Limthongkul said the protesters would be divided into many groups, the strategy that was used before.

"I would like to invite people to join the last battle. We know what we are doing and we believe that what we are doing and will do has same objective which are to protect the country, religion and monarchy," Sonthi told the cheering crowds.

He revealed the strategy that all protesters would meet at 6pm before marching to the Parliament. Theywould be separated into several groups and marched separately to the Parliament. He also urged the protesters inside the Government House and outside to take a rest so that they were ready for the last battle on Monday.

Earlier another PAD's co-leader Suriyasai Katasila said the march will start at about 7am Monday.

Both from the Nation:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingne...newsid=30089196

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/11/23...cs_30089195.php