xylotrupes Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Looking into buying a used Hilux Vigo 2.7 (4wd) Vs. the 3.0 Diesel. Has anyone out there done the conversion to LPG? Was it worth it? Did it affect performance? Cheers, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I know a guy who did it. He installed a more expensive injection head system, no problems whatsoever. He didn't complain of power loss but the whole idea was to save money, speed didn't matter to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddiving Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I saw a 2.7 vvti Vigo a few days ago in a car park and it had 2 big lpg tanks on the back... I was wondering why someone would buy a pickup and fill the complete bed with lpg tanks. I guess the ownwer can probably drive around 1500 kilometers before filling them up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipm Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 yea mate i know of a place that does it for diesels. they have many project cars. im doing business with them. would you like to head down there to see what they can do for you? the already made the 3L vigo converison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylotrupes Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) yea mate i know of a place that does it for diesels.they have many project cars. im doing business with them. would you like to head down there to see what they can do for you? the already made the 3L vigo converison. Yes I'm interested. Some questions though - what's the cost for converting a 3.0 diesel? Is it a more complicated or problematic process? Also, on once it's converted from diesel there's no option to switch between diesel or LPG right? BTW I have no desire to sacrifice any of the bed for a big LPG tank. Cheers Edited December 4, 2008 by xylotrupes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipm Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 hey mate i will have to contact them for you to find out. or if you like i can forward you there number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylotrupes Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 hey mate i will have to contact them for you to find out. or if you like i can forward you there number. Be great if you could forward their number - do they speak English? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Converting diesels to LPG/NGV is not an easy thing. When I asked around a few months ago no one had any idea how it was possible. There were couple of solutions but prices were prohibitive and benefits not clear (gas was used only as an additive to diesel fuel, thus no real savings). In short - diesels and LPG/NGV don't go very well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipm Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 contact powerlab for inquiries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingnoi34 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 You can not convert Diesel engines to LPG. Toyotas are not well suited for LPG either due to soft valves and that variable valve timing technology does not work well with LPG electronics. L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipm Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I have personally sat in there LPG Vigo 3L. it has a different exhaust note, but it works smoothly and well. it does work, though i wouldnt recommend getting anyone to do it for you, Powerlab have invested a conciderable amount of money and time to do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddiving Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I see a lot of big trucks with about 8 NGV/LPG tanks on the back so i think they find the conversion worth it. I asume these are diesel engined trucks/lorries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipm Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 i could not spot the tank on there vigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I saw a 2.7 vvti Vigo a few days ago in a car park and it had 2 big lpg tanks on the back...I was wondering why someone would buy a pickup and fill the complete bed with lpg tanks. I guess the ownwer can probably drive around 1500 kilometers before filling them up again. Are you sure they were LPG tanks and not CNG. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Philip, what does Powerlab do with LPG+diesels? Is it a mixture? Toyotas are not well suited for LPG either due to soft valves and that variable valve timing technology See, right here - he is talking about VVTi which has nothing to do with diesels, it's a gasoline technology. I think most posters make some very basic mistakes like the type of the engine when they talk about possibilities of converting to LPG. A couple of months ago someone posted links to Australian LPG/diesel conversions, but it was a mixture type - addling LPG to diesel, savings are minimal that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipm Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 hey mate, i think your best shot is contact them or on thursday when i go there i shall get as much info for you. can you wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I'm not in a hurry at all, just want to know the current state of LPG technology in the country. >>> I asked my LPG garage if chipping my jz ECU would have any effect on performance - he said no, LPG box reads information from the ECU box itself, not the modified settings from the chip. That leaves me only with an option of replacing and reprogamming the whole box. Bugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipm Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 my partner has an lpg 2jz twin turbo. with the lpg independent ecu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauls2979 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 my partner has an lpg 2jz twin turbo. with the lpg independent ecu hi philipm here's my car re 2jzgte with the LPG conversion , re i have circled the pump and injectors , mine has own ECU and a 75 litre tank , cost 48,000 baht , 5 months a go , works fine , so far no troubles sorry if off topic , but it may help someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Cool, when I was doing mine the garage wasn't sure how to proceed with the turbo and advised against it, so I went for non-turbo vvti instead. My LPG also has a separate, "idependent" ECU - that's exactly my point - if I put a chip on jz's ECU, LPG will simply ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny747 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 my partner has an lpg 2jz twin turbo. with the lpg independent ecu hi philipm here's my car re 2jzgte with the LPG conversion , re i have circled the pump and injectors , mine has own ECU and a 75 litre tank , cost 48,000 baht , 5 months a go , works fine , so far no troubles sorry if off topic , but it may help someone are you using toyota engine on benz body? how much did you pay to swap your engine? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny747 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 my partner has an lpg 2jz twin turbo. with the lpg independent ecu hi philipm here's my car re 2jzgte with the LPG conversion , re i have circled the pump and injectors , mine has own ECU and a 75 litre tank , cost 48,000 baht , 5 months a go , works fine , so far no troubles sorry if off topic , but it may help someone are you using toyota engine on benz body? how much did you pay to swap your engine? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauls2979 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 my partner has an lpg 2jz twin turbo. with the lpg independent ecu hi philipm here's my car re 2jzgte with the LPG conversion , re i have circled the pump and injectors , mine has own ECU and a 75 litre tank , cost 48,000 baht , 5 months a go , works fine , so far no troubles sorry if off topic , but it may help someone are you using toyota engine on benz body? how much did you pay to swap your engine? sorry for delay i bought the car with the conversion , gos like a rocket , there are many many people converting any car you would like to use, i know of some garages that will do it for you thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipm Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 the swap? or the lpg converison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauls2979 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 the swap? or the lpg converison. the swap was done before i bought the car , the LPG was done after , at a cost of 48,000 , 6 months ago , its a system from Italy , direct injection to each cylinder , fuel pump , ECU , 75 litre fuel tank , i was amazed at the price of cars in Thailand , so i wanted as much bang for my buck as i could get , and safety was a big concern, this car fitted the bill for me , ps just got back from bangna-trad rd , where they have all the second hand engines and parts , wow its like a small town full of car shops selling anything and everything , my engine is the 2jz gte twin turbo , and not so readily available , so i was interested to see how much i could buy one for , if in the future , i needed to replace it , one shop that had many 1jz engines out side , said they could do a complete transplant on any car for a 1jz for about 30,000 baht , for a 2jz gte about 55,000 baht , very good price IMO , I will be going down there again , as i love looking about those places for bits a bobs, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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