su-b-doo Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Last month I took my daughter to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital for her immunization injections which cost 1,800 Baht; I was told she must have the same injection again next month. I returned and saw the same doctor for the same 10 second chat, the same nurse that gave the last injection; but when I went to pay the cost was 2,500 Baht. I questioned this and showed them last months invoice; they charged 650 for the doctor 300 baht more and another 400 baht more for the drugs. I refused to pay the extra; and after great discussion they discounted the invoice to the same price as last months. They then stated next time asks the price before you come. I was very angry and told them you can not cheat the people by just charging what you think. I assume the doctor gets a % of what they charge, and I know very well they double the cost of drugs. I also assume most people will never question their cost, but for me this kind of cheating is a disgrace and needs attention. I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owain Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? They are not cheating. They can charge you what they want for their services, that is the capitalist way. Everyone does it. As they told you you should have asked how much if you were so concerned about the price. 2500 baht is cheap for private hospital treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
su-b-doo Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? They are not cheating. They can charge you what they want for their services, that is the capitalist way. Everyone does it. As they told you you should have asked how much if you were so concerned about the price. 2500 baht is cheap for private hospital treatment. If I go into a reputable shop they display the price; therefore I would know if the price has changed. Considering I was receiving the same service and was not informed of any change in the notice to attend or the text message or when I reported at the front desk or when I reported to the kids unit or when I saw the doctor; I had no reason to ask had they increased their price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 su-b don't sweat the guy that isn't anywhere near Thailand BKK-Pattaya hospital has tiered pricing and though for an emergency in Pattaya they would be the place i would go, for anything else I'd stop by any number of places in BKK if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZEMADE Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Last month I took my daughter to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital for her immunization injections which cost 1,800 Baht; I was told she must have the same injection again next month. I returned and saw the same doctor for the same 10 second chat, the same nurse that gave the last injection; but when I went to pay the cost was 2,500 Baht. I questioned this and showed them last months invoice; they charged 650 for the doctor 300 baht more and another 400 baht more for the drugs. I refused to pay the extra; and after great discussion they discounted the invoice to the same price as last months. They then stated next time asks the price before you come. I was very angry and told them you can not cheat the people by just charging what you think. I assume the doctor gets a % of what they charge, and I know very well they double the cost of drugs. I also assume most people will never question their cost, but for me this kind of cheating is a disgrace and needs attention. I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? You got off cheap B/P Hospital for your 10 second chat is normally B600 and any injection and or check up on blood is around B1600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassienie Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? They are not cheating. They can charge you what they want for their services, that is the capitalist way. Everyone does it. As they told you you should have asked how much if you were so concerned about the price. 2500 baht is cheap for private hospital treatment. Wrong. I tried asking the price for certain medical treatments before hand at several hospitals, each one told me that it is not possible to give a price until the Doctor has examined me and assessed what drugs and treatment is required. Which of course does make sense and fully understand why prices cannot be given until the patient has been examined. I have always been suspicious that some hospitals in Thailand have a two way pricing policy for Thais and Farangs, that is if the Thai goes fully private not including any Government health schemes. A year ago I came down with a very bad influenza. I visited the Ram 1 hospital in Chiang Mai. They tried to charge me, 2800 baht for some anti biotics and a nasal spray. I said, no thank you. Went into the town and bought the same products for 280 baht. Edited February 22, 2009 by sassienie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZEMADE Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? They are not cheating. They can charge you what they want for their services, that is the capitalist way. Everyone does it. As they told you you should have asked how much if you were so concerned about the price. 2500 baht is cheap for private hospital treatment. Wrong. I tried asking the price for certain medical treatments before hand at several hospitals, each one told me that it is not possible to give a price until the Doctor has examined me and assessed what drugs and treatment is required. Which of course does make sense and fully understand why prices cannot be given until the patient has been examined. I have always been suspicious that some hospitals in Thailand have a two way pricing policy for Thais and Farangs, that is if the Thai goes fully private not including any Government health schemes. A year ago I came down with a very bad influenza. I visited the Ram 1 hospital in Chiang Mai. They tried to charge me, 2800 baht for some anti biotics and a nasal spray. I said, no thank you. Went into the town and bought the same products for 280 baht. You were talking about Bangkok Pattaya hospital which I go to and that is their price for a doctor etc. Edited February 22, 2009 by OZEMADE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Last month I took my daughter to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital for her immunization injections which cost 1,800 Baht; I was told she must have the same injection again next month. I returned and saw the same doctor for the same 10 second chat, the same nurse that gave the last injection; but when I went to pay the cost was 2,500 Baht. I questioned this and showed them last months invoice; they charged 650 for the doctor 300 baht more and another 400 baht more for the drugs. I refused to pay the extra; and after great discussion they discounted the invoice to the same price as last months. They then stated next time asks the price before you come. I was very angry and told them you can not cheat the people by just charging what you think. I assume the doctor gets a % of what they charge, and I know very well they double the cost of drugs. I also assume most people will never question their cost, but for me this kind of cheating is a disgrace and needs attention. I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? Quite a lot: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Hosp...63.html&hl= Bangkok [Pattaya] Hospital, Over charging? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Pattaya-Hosp...32.html&hl= Which Pattaya Hospital Won't Rip Me Off ? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Hospital-Pri...96.html&hl= Hospital Prices For MRI Scan http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Patt...74.html&hl= Bangkok Pattaya Hospital http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Dental-Clean...49.html&hl= Dental Cleaning For 1350 Baht At Pattaya Hospital, Reasonable Fee??????????????? sorry, I'm wearing out my mouse with the cutting and pasting... there's a bunch more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beacher Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 It amazes me that people use this hospital. It consistently offers the worst treatment at the highest prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westerner Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I always use Bangkok Pattaya Hospital,wouldn't go anywhere else as I find the doctors there are first class. The medication is expensive but you don't need to buy it from there. If you ask the doctor he/she will write down what medication you need and you can then purchase it from Fascino at a much cheaper price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertrat Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) "If you ask the doctor he/she will write down what medication you need and you can then purchase it from Fascino at a much cheaper price." Since many drugs are just copied with ineffective ingredients, where, if anywhere can we be sure they are genuine ? Edited February 23, 2009 by desertrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmick Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I have to go regularly to Samitivej hospital for my diabetes check up. (have to take pills everyday, urghhh). Since my first visit there the nurses ask me if I would like to buy the pills from a chemist outside of the hospital as they're cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beacher Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 "If you ask the doctor he/she will write down what medication you need and you can then purchase it from Fascino at a much cheaper price."Since many drugs are just copied with ineffective ingredients, where, if anywhere can we be sure they are genuine ? Really? What's your source for this claim? That's very scary info, so please point us to some evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) And the great news is that the Bangkok Hospital group is slowly but surely buying up several local private hospitals.... BNH, Samitivej and Vejthani are a few on their list and their huge cash reserves thanks to hundreds of thousands of patients like the OP suggest that they will only get bigger. Pretty solid business formula if you ask me. Just about everyone has to pass through hospitals sooner or later... and typically at junctions in your life where you are the least picky about a few Baht here and there. Edited February 23, 2009 by Heng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offset Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Last month I took my daughter to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital for her immunization injections which cost 1,800 Baht; I was told she must have the same injection again next month. I returned and saw the same doctor for the same 10 second chat, the same nurse that gave the last injection; but when I went to pay the cost was 2,500 Baht. I questioned this and showed them last months invoice; they charged 650 for the doctor 300 baht more and another 400 baht more for the drugs. I refused to pay the extra; and after great discussion they discounted the invoice to the same price as last months. They then stated next time asks the price before you come. I was very angry and told them you can not cheat the people by just charging what you think. I assume the doctor gets a % of what they charge, and I know very well they double the cost of drugs. I also assume most people will never question their cost, but for me this kind of cheating is a disgrace and needs attention. I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? Quite a lot: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Hosp...63.html&hl= Bangkok [Pattaya] Hospital, Over charging? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Pattaya-Hosp...32.html&hl= Which Pattaya Hospital Won't Rip Me Off ? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Hospital-Pri...96.html&hl= Hospital Prices For MRI Scan http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Patt...74.html&hl= Bangkok Pattaya Hospital http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Dental-Clean...49.html&hl= Dental Cleaning For 1350 Baht At Pattaya Hospital, Reasonable Fee??????????????? sorry, I'm wearing out my mouse with the cutting and pasting... there's a bunch more Did you read these posts that you quoted I guess not the first one on your list was not a complaint about being overcharge but a comment on there honesty at BHP it also shows that the medication that was received was not expensive at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Last month I took my daughter to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital for her immunization injections which cost 1,800 Baht; I was told she must have the same injection again next month. I returned and saw the same doctor for the same 10 second chat, the same nurse that gave the last injection; but when I went to pay the cost was 2,500 Baht. I questioned this and showed them last months invoice; they charged 650 for the doctor 300 baht more and another 400 baht more for the drugs. I refused to pay the extra; and after great discussion they discounted the invoice to the same price as last months. They then stated next time asks the price before you come. I was very angry and told them you can not cheat the people by just charging what you think. I assume the doctor gets a % of what they charge, and I know very well they double the cost of drugs. I also assume most people will never question their cost, but for me this kind of cheating is a disgrace and needs attention. I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? Quite a lot: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Hosp...63.html&hl= Bangkok [Pattaya] Hospital, Over charging? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Pattaya-Hosp...32.html&hl= Which Pattaya Hospital Won't Rip Me Off ? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Hospital-Pri...96.html&hl= Hospital Prices For MRI Scan http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Patt...74.html&hl= Bangkok Pattaya Hospital http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Dental-Clean...49.html&hl= Dental Cleaning For 1350 Baht At Pattaya Hospital, Reasonable Fee??????????????? sorry, I'm wearing out my mouse with the cutting and pasting... there's a bunch more Did you read these posts that you quoted I guess not the first one on your list was not a complaint about being overcharge but a comment on there honesty at BHP it also shows that the medication that was received was not expensive at all. Read the comments after the OP.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryofthailand Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Try Phyathai hospital in Sriracha. for a private hospital they are reasonable. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offset Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Last month I took my daughter to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital for her immunization injections which cost 1,800 Baht; I was told she must have the same injection again next month. I returned and saw the same doctor for the same 10 second chat, the same nurse that gave the last injection; but when I went to pay the cost was 2,500 Baht. I questioned this and showed them last months invoice; they charged 650 for the doctor 300 baht more and another 400 baht more for the drugs. I refused to pay the extra; and after great discussion they discounted the invoice to the same price as last months. They then stated next time asks the price before you come. I was very angry and told them you can not cheat the people by just charging what you think. I assume the doctor gets a % of what they charge, and I know very well they double the cost of drugs. I also assume most people will never question their cost, but for me this kind of cheating is a disgrace and needs attention. I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? Quite a lot: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Hosp...63.html&hl= Bangkok [Pattaya] Hospital, Over charging? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Pattaya-Hosp...32.html&hl= Which Pattaya Hospital Won't Rip Me Off ? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Hospital-Pri...96.html&hl= Hospital Prices For MRI Scan http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Patt...74.html&hl= Bangkok Pattaya Hospital http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Dental-Clean...49.html&hl= Dental Cleaning For 1350 Baht At Pattaya Hospital, Reasonable Fee??????????????? sorry, I'm wearing out my mouse with the cutting and pasting... there's a bunch more Did you read these posts that you quoted I guess not the first one on your list was not a complaint about being overcharge but a comment on there honesty at BHP it also shows that the medication that was received was not expensive at all. Read the comments after the OP.... I just have read it again as the O/P I suggest you look again at the posters and I think that you will find it very balance except for one poster that might have a justifiable complaint but I think might be exaggerating a little bit (may be a bit more that a little) if what was supposed to of happened to him happened to me that hospital would not have heard the last of it and not just on Thia Visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? They are not cheating. They can charge you what they want for their services, that is the capitalist way. Everyone does it. As they told you you should have asked how much if you were so concerned about the price. 2500 baht is cheap for private hospital treatment. Really? Samitivej in BKK, where we did all the vaccines, never charged more that 1800B. How much you want it to be "for private hospital treatment"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Try Phyathai hospital in Sriracha. for a private hospital they are reasonable.Barry Or Samitivej in Sri Racha. On the drugs side, you should have no problem if you buy from a reputable pharmacy, and I do not mean Boots or Watsons. Just your main street guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owain Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? They are not cheating. They can charge you what they want for their services, that is the capitalist way. Everyone does it. As they told you you should have asked how much if you were so concerned about the price. 2500 baht is cheap for private hospital treatment. Really? Samitivej in BKK, where we did all the vaccines, never charged more that 1800B. How much you want it to be "for private hospital treatment"? Yes really. They are allowed to charge what they want to as is any other business. Just because you and other people do not like what they charge does not mean they are cheating you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? They are not cheating. They can charge you what they want for their services, that is the capitalist way. Everyone does it. As they told you you should have asked how much if you were so concerned about the price. 2500 baht is cheap for private hospital treatment. Really? Samitivej in BKK, where we did all the vaccines, never charged more that 1800B. How much you want it to be "for private hospital treatment"? Yes really. They are allowed to charge what they want to as is any other business. Just because you and other people do not like what they charge does not mean they are cheating you. Yeah, in Mad Max movies or in Somalia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost in LOS Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I always use Bangkok Pattaya Hospital,wouldn't go anywhere else as I find the doctors there are first class. The medication is expensive but you don't need to buy it from there. If you ask the doctor he/she will write down what medication you need and you can then purchase it from Fascino at a much cheaper price. YEP, same same for me. I have been many times and never had a problem. not the cheapest place but I trust them and someone has to pay for the top rate western equipment and mostly first class doctors. . buy medicine elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Quite a lot:http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Hosp...63.html&hl= Bangkok [Pattaya] Hospital, Over charging? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Pattaya-Hosp...32.html&hl= Which Pattaya Hospital Won't Rip Me Off ? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Hospital-Pri...96.html&hl= Hospital Prices For MRI Scan http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Patt...74.html&hl= Bangkok Pattaya Hospital http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Dental-Clean...49.html&hl= Dental Cleaning For 1350 Baht At Pattaya Hospital, Reasonable Fee??????????????? sorry, I'm wearing out my mouse with the cutting and pasting... there's a bunch more May be there is a business opportunity here to create a " discount " version of Bangkok Hospital ? No cut back on the medical standards but just providing good value for money for accommodation and ancillary services and start off small as a boutique clinic. If people are prepared to entrust their lives flying with a company like Air Asia just to save a bit of money, believing they have the same standard of pilots as other mainstream airlines, why would it be any different with a cut price hospital? Doctors in Thailand are paid very low salaries so it wouldn't be difficult to find some of the best in the country. I have now heard so many complaints about Bangkok hospital that it's obvious it's just become a money hungry corporation with the arrogant belief no one could effectively compete with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owain Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? They are not cheating. They can charge you what they want for their services, that is the capitalist way. Everyone does it. As they told you you should have asked how much if you were so concerned about the price. 2500 baht is cheap for private hospital treatment. Really? Samitivej in BKK, where we did all the vaccines, never charged more that 1800B. How much you want it to be "for private hospital treatment"? Yes really. They are allowed to charge what they want to as is any other business. Just because you and other people do not like what they charge does not mean they are cheating you. Yeah, in Mad Max movies or in Somalia. In the real world where you do not seem to live. A business can charge what they like and if you do not like it then shop else where. Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I am sure I am not the only person that have been cheated, but to what extent are they cheating? They are not cheating. They can charge you what they want for their services, that is the capitalist way. Everyone does it. As they told you you should have asked how much if you were so concerned about the price. 2500 baht is cheap for private hospital treatment. Really? Samitivej in BKK, where we did all the vaccines, never charged more that 1800B. How much you want it to be "for private hospital treatment"? Yes really. They are allowed to charge what they want to as is any other business. Just because you and other people do not like what they charge does not mean they are cheating you. Yeah, in Mad Max movies or in Somalia. In the real world where you do not seem to live. A business can charge what they like and if you do not like it then shop else where. Easy. Fundamental lack of understanding. Look at this: most of BKK Pattaya Hospital patients are insured with some insurance company, international or local. Those companies have their rules and price ranges they would refund. Anything above that level - they will refuse, on repeat they will request their customers not to use BKK Pattaya hospital - and that is the end of their business. OK now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offset Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) A good business will charge as much as they can and if they get enough customers through the door why should they reduce their prices. The more they can charge the less customers through the door they need to make a profit which means that they are never over stretched and can keep on time with there appointments giving better service which is why people pay extra Edited February 23, 2009 by offset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyphuketLife Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Bangkok Phuket pulls the same stuff... Same doctor, same exact visit and the rate goes up and down.... never consistent... is crazy and I call them on it everytime... Welcome to Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 A good business will charge as much as they can and if they get enough customers through the door why should they reduce their prices. The more they can charge the less customers through the door they need to make a profit which means that they are never over stretched and can keep on time with there appointments giving better service which is why people pay extra Insurance companies keep them in check, they may try things but must stay within the boundaries. That is not "charge what they want", could be "as much as they can" but that limit of "what they can" is set by BUPA and similar insurance companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyphuketLife Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Insurance companies keep them in check, they may try things but must stay within the boundaries. That is not "charge what they want", could be "as much as they can" but that limit of "what they can" is set by BUPA and similar insurance companies. hogwash.... My first visit ever to the international hospital was funny.... Man asked do you have insurance and I answered no... he pulled out a book and showed me the room rates (felt like I was in a hotel lobby, not the ER)... Then I said wait I do have insurance he said oh sorry I show you wrong book.... he proceeds to show me the insurace book, same rooms only the rates were 3* as much as the no-insurance book.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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