threelegcowboy Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Bikers Well it finally happened again. 30 years ago I had one stolen and 2 days ago it happened here in Thailand. Not wanting to go into all the details but I will advise as I think I see an increase in stolen bikes. Last night one news program had two separate stories about bikes being stolen. Most cases seem to be with new bikes(red dealer plates), young thieves, and a sharp tool that is driven into the key slot. It can be done almost as easy as inserting a good key. So even in the middle of the day in a busy area and left for just a few minutes can mean a lost bike. I have seen bikes being double locked up when I thought the owner was being too careful, not anymore. If I HAD a new bike I would keep it locked up at all times using that cable lock though a wheel or a pad on the disc brake. They can still get it but the odds go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Best you can do, make the other bikes an easier target. Highly visible locks (bright red or yellow) on the disc brake, or a high quality chain/padlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threelegcowboy Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) Best you can do, make the other bikes an easier target.Highly visible locks (bright red or yellow) on the disc brake, or a high quality chain/padlock. The only problem with the pad lock on the disc brake is that I dont use that lock method all the time and forget its locked. Then when your wheels start to turn the lock interfers with a cable or the disc pad housing. This can cause damage on some models. It might be someone moving your bike for parking issues. So pick your poison. Edited May 24, 2009 by threelegcowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asianrider Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 on the new Yamaha Nouvo's the steering lock has a sliding plate over it to stop instruments being inserted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threelegcowboy Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 on the new Yamaha Nouvo's the steering lock has a sliding plate over it to stop instruments being inserted . That sliding plate over the key hole is a feature on alot of different models. I am sure it works to stop most attempts to steal. My problem is trying to move that plate myself and especially in the dark. I get so frustrated and dont like them. Pick your posion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothertorres Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 My problem is trying to move that plate myself and especially in the dark. I get so frustrated and dont like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times.... The person who comes up with an GPS alarm system which rings the cell phone when the bike is moved will make a mint. As long as they keep the monthly charge at less than 200~300 baht and the system is hard to disconnect, that person would be rolling in cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjke Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times.... The person who comes up with an GPS alarm system which rings the cell phone when the bike is moved will make a mint. As long as they keep the monthly charge at less than 200~300 baht and the system is hard to disconnect, that person would be rolling in cash. The system you are talking about exists for at least 15 years and it is free as the dialler is integrated in the alarm system although I must admit that I have never seen it in LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threelegcowboy Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times.... The person who comes up with an GPS alarm system which rings the cell phone when the bike is moved will make a mint. As long as they keep the monthly charge at less than 200~300 baht and the system is hard to disconnect, that person would be rolling in cash. Thats the best reply I never expected. I can see it now. Someone stealing my bike. Phone alerts me. Then i'm running to stop this crime and am confronted with a gang of young men with sharp tools. I see red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaifan2 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I use the disc pad lock .Yes the odd time i have forgotten its on and tried to drive away .No damage was done ( Honda Phantom ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaneggspurt Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times.... The person who comes up with an GPS alarm system which rings the cell phone when the bike is moved will make a mint. As long as they keep the monthly charge at less than 200~300 baht and the system is hard to disconnect, that person would be rolling in cash.21 Years ago in Canada i had an alarm on my car that set a pager off in my pocket if my car was disturbed,.alarms are cheap so id say fit one as a preventative even if it dosent have this feature, and park where its not dark/quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nam-thip Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I have a disc lock and agree that on the odd occasion i forgot to remove it but at best the lock can only go a short turn before it lets me know. Most parking positions require you to pull your bike out usually by shuffling your feet and it's then you realize you forgot to remove the lock. Personally i've never had any damage. That said keep your bike locked at all times as there are many bike thieves operating in Thailand. A stolen bike can be broken down and beyond recognition in less than an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHdiver Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 There are disc locks out who also have a alarm included, the alarm starts as soon as you move the bike. You will not forget to unlock it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2oDunc Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Back in Blghty it was a case of park the bike. 1 Steering lock on 2 Disc lock on 3 U Lock through the front forks 4 Very heavy duty SS chain and 300 pounds, 15000 baht, worth of padlock through the back wheel and fixed to an immovable object if at all possible 5 Activate the category 1 alarm immobilizer Even then I was never sure the thing was going to be there when I returned. I lost 2 after doing all the above. Here very rarely take out the key never mind locking it and am forever leaving stuff on the bike, as in 400 pounds worth of camera and lenses the other day. Must just be lucky though err indoors keeps telling me to lock it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaivisaInsurance Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 The true figures of bikes stolen are not released by the police but suffice to say many dozens go every week. The amazing thing is people do not insure against Theft - really !! Many customers think the CTPL covers everything - nothing further from the truth ............... Even if 1st Class is too expensive then do look at 2nd Class which covers you for Theft as all the alarms and chains in Thailand will not stop someone lifting the whole bike up and putting it in the back of a pick-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texpat Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 The best assurance to avoid theft is to drive a ratty 15-year-old, smoke belching, non-plated rusting Suzuki Smash. Nobody will steal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangpattaya Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 The best assurance to avoid theft is to drive a ratty 15-year-old, smoke belching, non-plated rusting Suzuki Smash. Nobody will steal it. A bunch of handgranates under the seat; as soon as the bike starts moving and will keep moving for approx. 5 minutes, the granates will go off. Ok, you'll loose the bike, but the thieves will loose more...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threelegcowboy Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 I guess pulling into the shopping center where they check under the seat only to find a mobil phone attached to a mass of wires and other contraptions might be a bit much for security. They shit thier pants when they found firecrackers and a lighter once upon a time. An activated phone that calls for help seems like a winner though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times.... The person who comes up with an GPS alarm system which rings the cell phone when the bike is moved will make a mint. As long as they keep the monthly charge at less than 200~300 baht and the system is hard to disconnect, that person would be rolling in cash. Exists. No monthly fee either, apart from keeping the sim card in it alive. GPS based. Send an sms to it, and it replies with it's exact location. You can also hook them up to a motion sensor so they will send the sms when the bike is moved. You can get the devices on ebay, around 5000 Baht, but they are a pain to get in as it is both a GPS and a mobile phone in one. Customs like them I've seen them locally (Bkk) for around 7,000 Baht. Very small, easy to hide, they wouldn't know the device is in there, until you show up at their doorsteps with the cops! No idea why nobody uses them, I know 7000 Baht is expensive compared to the bike, but I think a top of the line moped theft insurance is almost as expensive. For the bigger bikes and cars, makes definitely sense to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmlb Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Best way to remember the disc lock is one of those stretchy coloured phone cord style strap to the throttle with velcro round the throttle, you always see it round the throttle and it reminds you to remove the lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threelegcowboy Posted July 4, 2009 Author Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times.... The person who comes up with an GPS alarm system which rings the cell phone when the bike is moved will make a mint. As long as they keep the monthly charge at less than 200~300 baht and the system is hard to disconnect, that person would be rolling in cash. Thats the best reply I never expected. I can see it now. Someone stealing my bike. Phone alerts me. Then i'm running to stop this crime and am confronted with a gang of young men with sharp tools. I see red. A few days ago a news story on TV showed my red license plate. Also a number of suspects in a large moto thieft ring in the Pattaya area. My bike was not recovered. Also shown on TV were some sharp tools used for breaking the ignition lock. So its been 5 weeks since it was stolen. Gang busted one week ago. No motobike recovered. Insurance should pay B32K for a B41K bike. 4 month wait for payment = 3 more months. Edited July 4, 2009 by threelegcowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTYstefan Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times.... The person who comes up with an GPS alarm system which rings the cell phone when the bike is moved will make a mint. As long as they keep the monthly charge at less than 200~300 baht and the system is hard to disconnect, that person would be rolling in cash. There is one bad point on this alarm system, thai peple like move other bikes around if they are wanting to make space, or when you are parked so close to athers then they will hit the bike a little so the alarm goes off again. But talking about stolen bikes. i had my bike stolen once and on the security camera was a kid which was the neighbur from the appartment. Good to say to get my bike back, but it took nearly a week to get it. the robbers have acctually put the bike in to pices. 1. got the motor back. 2. got me weels back. 3. came some more metalic parts. and on and on. you can see now when it is gone the you shall find it alll in parts,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Mosthly they stealing only this typical Thai "Ladybikes", like Mio, Nuovo, Fino, Pinto, or whatever. Buy a "real" Bike and no Local wil steal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothertorres Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times.... The person who comes up with an GPS alarm system which rings the cell phone when the bike is moved will make a mint. As long as they keep the monthly charge at less than 200~300 baht and the system is hard to disconnect, that person would be rolling in cash. There is one bad point on this alarm system, thai peple like move other bikes around if they are wanting to make space, or when you are parked so close to athers then they will hit the bike a little so the alarm goes off again. a GPS signal could be sent to the cell phone, as described above. no audible alarm on the bike. if it rings the phone, you can just walk out and take a peek to make sure the bike is still there. excellent idea for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junki3korean Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I`ve seen how easy it is to steal scooters....couldn`t believe it! its a 60 second job and that steering lock doesn`t do shit.... becareful!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsfbrit Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Sorry to hear of your bad eperiences with stolen bikes. Here is our tale from last week. Its a very unpleasant experience to have something stolen and until it happens to you it cannot really be appreciated just how upsetting it is. My wife's Honda Wave 125 had a lock and chain, a hidden switch under the seat and when parked she put her helmet in the box we had fitted on the back. Sadly it did not stop two **** Thais on a bike riding up next to her in the early hours of the morning, telling her to stop her bike and when she ignored them they tore out her ignition key and then kicked her bike over with her still on it My wife was 'lucky' she ran off unhurt, but they stole the bike and her personal belongings, mobile phone etc..., in the box on the back. Trouble is, I reckon them getting the bike is better than her 'defending' the bike and them 'getting' her instead!!! I have now bought her a new bike. I am in the process of fitting a switch under the seat that stops it starting when parked. Will buy an alarm disk lock and maybe fit an alarm. She now carries her new mobile phone on her body on a belt in a pouch around her waste - so she can at least call the police promptly if this happens again. This thread offers some useful tips, but really there is little we can do to prevent bike theft - maybe slow the thief down a bit or make it more awkward. The trouble is, it may be better the thief gets what they want - the alternative in situation like ours could be a lot worse than a bike being stolen. The new bike is insured. Its a Yamaha Nana -110 CC and the theft cover is 2500 baht for 2 years. If stolen in the first year the payment is 80 percent. In the second year its 60 percent. I have also bought her a new pair of running shoes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Sorry to hear of your bad eperiences with stolen bikes. Here is our tale from last week. Its a very unpleasant experience to have something stolen and until it happens to you it cannot really be appreciated just how upsetting it is.My wife's Honda Wave 125 had a lock and chain, a hidden switch under the seat and when parked she put her helmet in the box we had fitted on the back. Sadly it did not stop two **** Thais on a bike riding up next to her in the early hours of the morning, telling her to stop her bike and when she ignored them they tore out her ignition key and then kicked her bike over with her still on it My wife was 'lucky' she ran off unhurt, but they stole the bike and her personal belongings, mobile phone etc..., in the box on the back. Trouble is, I reckon them getting the bike is better than her 'defending' the bike and them 'getting' her instead!!! I have now bought her a new bike. I am in the process of fitting a switch under the seat that stops it starting when parked. Will buy an alarm disk lock and maybe fit an alarm. She now carries her new mobile phone on her body on a belt in a pouch around her waste - so she can at least call the police promptly if this happens again. This thread offers some useful tips, but really there is little we can do to prevent bike theft - maybe slow the thief down a bit or make it more awkward. The trouble is, it may be better the thief gets what they want - the alternative in situation like ours could be a lot worse than a bike being stolen. The new bike is insured. Its a Yamaha Nana -110 CC and the theft cover is 2500 baht for 2 years. If stolen in the first year the payment is 80 percent. In the second year its 60 percent. I have also bought her a new pair of running shoes! A cautionary tale indeed. There's not a lot more you can do to protect your bike safely. Personally I always take the insurance for 2 years, risk it for one then trade the bike in for a new one and repeat the process. Keeps my potential losses to a minimum and if I do get unlucky I won't be tempted to risk injury by resisting too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattaya_girl Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) The best assurance to avoid theft is to drive a ratty 15-year-old, smoke belching, non-plated rusting Suzuki Smash. Nobody will steal it. I am not so sure about this, they will steal anything here Edited August 15, 2009 by pattaya_girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm1803 Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 The best assurance to avoid theft is to drive a ratty 15-year-old, smoke belching, non-plated rusting Suzuki Smash. Nobody will steal it. not true. years ago here there was a lovely guy called jimmy mac, had a bar on soi 6, sadly died of cancer, anyway he claimed to have the tattiest, scruffiest excuse for a bike anyone had ever seen, and it was , also thought it was theft proof. got up one morning bike had gone, bloody binmen took it, thought it was scrap, true story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxxx Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 we've had a few bikes stolen directly on sukumvit road - middle of the day in plain sight of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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