angiud Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I came here 9 years ago, with low money and I open a small business. After all this time, I have 3 good running restaurants, an happy wonderful family and quite everything I need. Said that, I have seen Thailand change a lot (in worst) in the last years. I don't talk about tourisn, business, etc, I talk about the country and the thais. So, my family and me, have taken the decision to go away and next year we shall go in Bali, to start again. I don't want to speak here how Bali is better, cheaper, quieter, more friendly, etc. (for me). Just say we don't feel happy anymore in Thailand. Just my contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duchovny Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 With all the current uncertainties: poor exchange rates, rising prices, high crime, anti farang centiment, police shakedowns, road chaos, poor service, agressive Thais, constant change in visa regs, uncertainty if you have any rights to your house - even if you bought it in your wifes name, etc. etc. etc. - - - -Are you close to throwing in the towel? What you say is unfortunately an accurate account of life in Thailand now. I moved on a couple of years ago to Cambodia and thoroughly enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) Toadie,You mean somewhere behind all the truck loads of sleepers, huts with people asleep in hamocks and all the people chowing down to som tum, theres actually people here that are working???? I'm not sure ND, as I'm too busy getting drunk on Chang paid for by the DHSS and doing a monthly border run. BTW, I got some good tips if you want to invest in some stock. Edited June 18, 2009 by mrtoad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Toadie,You mean somewhere behind all the truck loads of sleepers, huts with people asleep in hamocks and all the people chowing down to som tum, theres actually people here that are working???? I'm not sure ND, as I'm too busy getting drunk on Chang paid for by the DHSS and doing a monthly border run. BTW, I got some good tips if you want to invest in some stock. Ahhh thanks for that, please forward the tips via PM, don't want to upset some of the financial natives who are too busy screaming DOOM DOOM DOOM, to realise theres still a buck to be made. Your not seriously doing monthly border runs, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Toadie,You mean somewhere behind all the truck loads of sleepers, huts with people asleep in hamocks and all the people chowing down to som tum, theres actually people here that are working???? I'm not sure ND, as I'm too busy getting drunk on Chang paid for by the DHSS and doing a monthly border run. BTW, I got some good tips if you want to invest in some stock. Ahhh thanks for that, please forward the tips via PM, don't want to upset some of the financial natives who are too busy screaming DOOM DOOM DOOM, to realise theres still a buck to be made. Your not seriously doing monthly border runs, are you? I'm trying to keep that quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeetJohnDoe Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 So, my family and me, have taken the decision to go away and next year we shall go in Bali, to start again.I don't want to speak here how Bali is better, cheaper, quieter, more friendly, etc. (for me). Just say we don't feel happy anymore in Thailand. Bali is certainly beautiful and the people are great. However, for retirees and people not active in business, it certainly has its limitations (quality and sophisticated medical care for one). Also, unless you really take to the "beach bum" lifestyle, the boredom factor could be an issue again. Good luck with the resto...there are already lots of good places there so the competition will be stiff...hope you succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeetJohnDoe Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 If you have some money, the Philipines and even Manila can be a great place to live, great beaches, friendly people, lots of travel to do, casino's, gated communities, underground music scene, english language, less culture shock, better nightlife, great women, not xenophobic AND you can actually hire people that speak english. I agree and have said as much in the concurrently running thread Thailand vs. Philippines in the South East Asia sub-forum Medical care, transport infrastructure, and sanitation/hygiene and environmental pollution and degradation are major issues. Even with all that, Manila can be a fun town (Filipinas can be great) and some of the islands of the south are drop-dead georgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassienie Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I came here 9 years ago, with low money and I open a small business. After all this time, I have 3 good running restaurants, an happy wonderful family and quite everything I need. Said that, I have seen Thailand change a lot (in worst) in the last years. I don't talk about tourisn, business, etc, I talk about the country and the thais.So, my family and me, have taken the decision to go away and next year we shall go in Bali, to start again. I don't want to speak here how Bali is better, cheaper, quieter, more friendly, etc. (for me). Just say we don't feel happy anymore in Thailand. Just my contribute. So in Thailand, you have 3 successful restaurants, a happy wonderful family and everything you need, yet, you are throwing all in and blaming the country and the Thais? BALONEY! You are probably leaving because of your own failures. And that’s the same for many others who prefer to blame everyone else rather than themselves for their lack of success here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommybkk Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Hey Sassienie, I completely agree with you. To get honest respect you need to give it yourself in the first place. and to appreciate Thailand you got to love it in the first place. And yes money also plays a big role, got money? got it all here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEENTHEREDONETHAT Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I think in about 20 years I'm gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary A Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 For those who are moving along to greener pastures, good luck. If enough farangs go, maybe things will get better for those of us who remain. It must be difficult to live somewhere where you hate. No doubt your attitude offends the Thai people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayong09 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 People are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longballlarry Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I was about to jack it in , but just won 4000bt on the lottery . So that should keep me going another week , As long as i dont get robbed by these theiving ,lying, rule changing Thais. If i do, I'm off back to SE London . So friendly there . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaneggspurt Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I came here 9 years ago, with low money and I open a small business. After all this time, I have 3 good running restaurants, an happy wonderful family and quite everything I need. Said that, I have seen Thailand change a lot (in worst) in the last years. I don't talk about tourisn, business, etc, I talk about the country and the thais.So, my family and me, have taken the decision to go away and next year we shall go in Bali, to start again. I don't want to speak here how Bali is better, cheaper, quieter, more friendly, etc. (for me). Just say we don't feel happy anymore in Thailand. Just my contribute. So in Thailand, you have 3 successful restaurants, a happy wonderful family and everything you need, yet, you are throwing all in and blaming the country and the Thais? BALONEY! You are probably leaving because of your own failures. And that's the same for many others who prefer to blame everyone else rather than themselves for their lack of success here. I disagree, ive moved around the world ,just out of boredom and fancying a change,im sure there are others, i personally think a lot of it for some is financial.or boredom as in my case, and not a lot for kids to do, but the biggest factor is where you came from and the quality of life you had there, i have fantastic memories of southern england where i come from,and i certainly will be back there one day,i just couldnt imagine for a minute being buried in thailand, unless its not planned ,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommybkk Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Thailand is the best even if I have a home in St Tropez where most of you guys would walk on their heads for to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayong09 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I was about to jack it in , but just won 4000bt on the lottery . So that should keep me going another week , As long as i dont get robbed by these theiving ,lying, rule changing Thais. If i do, I'm off back to SE London . So friendly there . Are you taking the piss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longballlarry Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I was about to jack it in , but just won 4000bt on the lottery . So that should keep me going another week , As long as i dont get robbed by these theiving ,lying, rule changing Thais. If i do, I'm off back to SE London . So friendly there . Are you taking the piss? Yes sorry, they deducted 3 % when I collected , so i only really have 3880 bt . Thanks for pointing that out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Thailand is the best even if I have a home in St Tropez where most of you guys would walk on their heads for to have it. All the excitement at the beginning will fade away and than you can see, if you can handle the day by day life here, or if you have to compromise more as you actually want to, or if you will hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmushr00m Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 "rising anti farang sentiments"???? huh?? 'cos they stop worshipping you and thinking farang is number 1 and always smart and correct and must be obeyed???? On the one hand whinge about hwat a lousy 3rd world country this is but when the natives start using their brains and exerting their rights to look after their self interest they become "hostile" and 'anti farang"??? Some of you guys need to grow up and see the world. See and experience what real anti (insert race/gender/religion/sexuality) sentiment is really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommybkk Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) Thailand is the best even if I have a home in St Tropez where most of you guys would walk on their heads for to have it. All the excitement at the beginning will fade away and than you can see, if you can handle the day by day life here, or if you have to compromise more as you actually want to, or if you will hate it. What about the excitement of living in europe? When will that be gone? Honestly, the only excitement for me living in my home town in the south of france is the money I safe. Got the sun, sea, beautiful architecture and beautiful mountains. Nothing more, nothing less. Every farang needs to go home once in a while, but for me Thailand is the country where I will spend most of my time. Edited June 18, 2009 by tommybkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james24 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 yeh what is it the agressive Thais now?? Even only two years ago they seemed so different, they now seem really miserable and manically depressed and nervous ...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Not close at all. Thailand isn't particulary 'foreign friendly' but it hasn't gotten worse, at least not since I've been here (10 years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommybkk Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 But I have to admit that when I go to places where aren't many foreigners, the locals are much more friendly. How come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Thailand is the best even if I have a home in St Tropez where most of you guys would walk on their heads for to have it. All the excitement at the beginning will fade away and than you can see, if you can handle the day by day life here, or if you have to compromise more as you actually want to, or if you will hate it. What about the excitement of living in europe? When will that be gone? Honestly, the only excitement for me living in my home town in the south of france is the money I safe. Got the sun, sea, beautiful architecture and beautiful mountains. Nothing more, nothing less. Every farang needs to go home once in a while, but for me Thailand is the country where I will spend most of my time. Afterwards it is easier for most of them to handle familiar grounds. That's why they packed their things already, mentally, but still have to wake up in the morning exposed to their torture of Thainess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommybkk Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) Hmm Edited June 18, 2009 by tommybkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isanb Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Thailand is the best even if I have a home in St Tropez where most of you guys would walk on their heads for to have it. same same exept that for me the home is in l'escalet, commune de Ramatuelle (not to far). Why not a pastis place des Lys one day or a chang in bangkok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominchaam Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 With all the current uncertainties: poor exchange rates, rising prices, high crime, anti farang centiment, police shakedowns, road chaos, poor service, agressive Thais, constant change in visa regs, uncertainty if you have any rights to your house - even if you bought it in your wifes name, etc. etc. etc. - - - -Are you close to throwing in the towel? Well done OP – I guess you achieved what you wanted as you have not posted another post and the thread is still alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassienie Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 But I have to admit that when I go to places where aren't many foreigners, the locals are much more friendly.How come? Because they don`t know you there and think you are a nice guy without knowing the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommybkk Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Thailand is the best even if I have a home in St Tropez where most of you guys would walk on their heads for to have it. same same exept that for me the home is in l'escalet, commune de Ramatuelle (not to far). Why not a pastis place des Lys one day or a chang in bangkok Great Ramatuelle is St Trop anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Aggressive and inflammatory posts have been removed. Please respond in a civil manner, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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