Gmail Smtp.gmail.com Not Working?

[nikster]

As of yesterday night, I can't send email vial smtp.gmail.com

This has worked before, nothing has changed on my email programs. I don't see any message boards full of complaints either so it's either just me, or it's Thailand or it's TOT.

Another strange thing is that some messages got through after a while. Currently, I am seeing a total block.

Anybody else seeing this?

Update: As I was writing this, it occurred to me to try with CAT CDMA. And - it works.

So it's probably just the usual TOT DNS screwup.

Edited July 1, 2009 by nikster

[jackdanielsesq]

Amazing Thailand

[JR Texas]

As of yesterday night, I can't send email vial smtp.gmail.com

This has worked before, nothing has changed on my email programs. I don't see any message boards full of complaints either so it's either just me, or it's Thailand or it's TOT.

Another strange thing is that some messages got through after a while. Currently, I am seeing a total block.

Anybody else seeing this?

Update: As I was writing this, it occurred to me to try with CAT CDMA. And - it works.

So it's probably just the usual TOT DNS screwup.

Having big problems with gmail and also connecting to a university site in the USA.........nothing........and no downloading of torrents. Something is wrong and I don't think it is my system...........I think the Thai govt. is doing something in terms of censorship (same as China) and it is now making the entire system slow down......maybe not. But it has been bad (today very bad) for about two weeks now.

[nikster]

Yeah this could very well be due to some reconfiguration of censoring servers. On the other hand it's equally if not more likely just the usual screwup

BTW what the Chinese government is planning is much worse, they want to install government spyware on every computer sold. If they really deploy it, I think it's going to blow up in their face quite spectacularly. At the very least hackers will find all the holes in this undoubtedly crappy software and use it to install trojans on a massive scale. And/or enterprising software companies will write software to disable or cripple the government software and make a quick buck. The most unlikely outcome is that it works as the Chinese government expects.

Not that this is going to stop the Thai government from doing the exact same thing 2 years later ...

Edited July 1, 2009 by nikster

[RKASA]

Ya to bad the sofware the chinese wanted to use is made up of stolen code from US companies.  First clue was when the software wanted updates from the company they stole it from.  Like that was not going to be a give away.   G     Damm I am mean green dam

Oh almost forgot to add. I have not had an issue with gmail at all ToT. Not using port 25 BTW

Edited July 1, 2009 by RKASA

[clokwise]

When your connection seems to have trouble, make sure it's not just a DNS lookup failure.

I'm on Maxnet in CM, and for the last few days DNS lookups have been terrible. Once you get the DNS lookup of a website, it loads snappily, but it requires several refreshes on the browser before it finally "gets it".

Further, it appears external DNS servers like OpenDNS and other not as well known public servers fail, even worse. I'm guessing external DNS server lookups are being blocked or limited in some way. But WHY??

[Plus]

Do you get any errors in you mail program when gmail is not working? Can you try some other mailing software to see where the problem is?

[jackdanielsesq]

Try SMTP port # 587

BR>Jack

[webfact]

Try SMTP port # 587

BR>Jack

+ secure connection: TLS

[jackdanielsesq]

Bingo - I thought of that as I checked out

Thanks

BR>Jack

[joealx]

Same problem. DNS at Maxnet. Go to wikileaks.com and search for alternative DNS with no filter. There is a big list.I picked one from Germany. Good luck.

I still can't log in to yodlee though.

G-mail works good when there is no filter.

Edited July 2, 2009 by joealx

[nikster]

Main reason I don't think it's the mail program is that it works on CAT CDMA. Will try 587/TLS... now on CAT again because TOT seems to suffer a tremendous slowdown at night, to the point where it's near-unusable....

[whopper]

In CM with max net premier.

as of ten days ago, had the dns page won't load BS. went to open dns, solved the problem. now the speed is down to a crawl. It could be from what I read they are doing the increased/doubling speed thing again. If I remember right, the last time they did that the entire system was screwed up for quite a while. I had constant drops at that time...anyway just a theroy.

[jackdanielsesq]

With very slow Net speeds, all bets are off.

BR>Jack

[climb512]

I'm in CM, and have been told by ToT that I can no longer use any smtp other than their own, smtp.totisp.net and similar. The tech that came to my house said it was changed from BKK on July 1st. I used that smtp for half a dozen mails, then got half a dozen "Undeliverable" messages. Reason? The smtp is SPAM blacklisted. I showed him how tot's smtp servers are blacklisted for sending too much spam--Level 3 blacklist, which is company level, so *every* smtp from ToT is affected. After he called BKK and told them this, they basically said that that's tough, no "foreign" smtp's are allowed anymore (smtp.gmail.com included).

Now its the webmail route

[webfact]

Same problem. DNS at Maxnet. Go to wikileaks.com and search for alternative DNS with no filter. There is a big list.I picked one from Germany. Good luck.

I still can't log in to yodlee though.

G-mail works good when there is no filter.

For those who face DNS problems might want to read this thread -

I recommend an alternative DNS and some users report back their experiences with that DNS

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Maxnet-Dns-t...25#entry2845456

[nikster]

I'm in CM, and have been told by ToT that I can no longer use any smtp other than their own, smtp.totisp.net and similar. The tech that came to my house said it was changed from BKK on July 1st. I used that smtp for half a dozen mails, then got half a dozen "Undeliverable" messages. Reason? The smtp is SPAM blacklisted. I showed him how tot's smtp servers are blacklisted for sending too much spam--Level 3 blacklist, which is company level, so *every* smtp from ToT is affected. After he called BKK and told them this, they basically said that that's tough, no "foreign" smtp's are allowed anymore (smtp.gmail.com included).

Now its the webmail route

Ok update: Talked to customer service, I don't think that this is true at all.

Here is what I think is happening: smtp.gmail.com doesn't work on my TOT connection for some reason. Standard customer service procedure if customers have trouble sending email is to change their Smtp server to TOT smtp. Can't imagine them blocking other smtp servers.

Edited July 3, 2009 by nikster

[webfact]

I'm in CM, and have been told by ToT that I can no longer use any smtp other than their own, smtp.totisp.net and similar. The tech that came to my house said it was changed from BKK on July 1st. I used that smtp for half a dozen mails, then got half a dozen "Undeliverable" messages. Reason? The smtp is SPAM blacklisted. I showed him how tot's smtp servers are blacklisted for sending too much spam--Level 3 blacklist, which is company level, so *every* smtp from ToT is affected. After he called BKK and told them this, they basically said that that's tough, no "foreign" smtp's are allowed anymore (smtp.gmail.com included).

Now its the webmail route

Ok update: Talked to customer service, I don't think that this is true at all.

Here is what I think is happening: smtp.gmail.com doesn't work on my TOT connection for some reason. Standard customer service procedure if customers have trouble sending email is to change their Smtp server to TOT smtp. Can't imagine them blocking other smtp servers.

what Gmail has to say about this issue can be found here

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer....mp;answer=78775

[nikster]

what Gmail has to say about this issue can be found here

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer....mp;answer=78775

Thanks, that helped a lot!

I can now see that I can in fact access gmail using the telnet command

telnet smtp.gmail.com 587

Now it works in Mail too. I am not sure but it might be a temporary screwup in mail, and also Mail's smtp settings are kinda confusing. Now I forced it to use the SSL port and SSL. Still doesn't explain why the difference between TOT and CAT...