What Document Is Needed To Verify Divorce From A Thai?

[wasabi]

Last year my ex wife and I registered our divorce at an Amphur in Bangkok, it was near On Nut. They gave me a record of this but it just has some handwritten notes about our divorce and does not look very official. I would like to go back to this Amphur and get a more official looking document to be translated into English as proof of my divorce so I can marry again.

(Not to a Thai person for those who want to make the joke didn't I learn my lesson the first time.)

Anyone know what I should ask for? I can speak read and write Thai so if someone knows the exact name of the document in Thai that would be best but if not some transliterated approximation would be helpful.

[Thanyaburi Mac]

Last year my ex wife and I registered our divorce at an Amphur in Bangkok, it was near On Nut. They gave me a record of this but it just has some handwritten notes about our divorce and does not look very official. I would like to go back to this Amphur and get a more official looking document to be translated into English as proof of my divorce so I can marry again.

(Not to a Thai person for those who want to make the joke didn't I learn my lesson the first time.)

Anyone know what I should ask for? I can speak read and write Thai so if someone knows the exact name of the document in Thai that would be best but if not some transliterated approximation would be helpful.

Strange, my now wife got a formal looking divorce certificate from her Amphur when the process was complete. How about you going back to the amphur with the notes you have and requesting a duplicate certificate. Two were issued to my wife as her ex was not around.

Mac

[Mario2008]

As thanyaburimac noted you should have gotten a divorce certificate, just like you got a marriage certificate. Besides that there would be an official record of the register with all the details, which you would need if you wanted to register the divorce in your own country.

[Farma]

As mentioned by others when you divorced you should have each received an original “Certificate of Divorce” (Khor Ror 7). This is your proof of divorce and the document Embassies and Umphurs accept as proof of divorce.

This is a pale yellow document with a floral type border, a big Garuda at the top and round red stamp over the official’s signature at the bottom. The reverse has the identification details of the divorced couple and signature of the registrar.

The other document is a stamped photocopy of “Registration of Divorce” (Khor Ror 6). This sounds like the handwritten document you are referring to. The front lists the names and details of both parties with the reverse listing conditions and financial details for divorce.

If you don’t have your copy of the Certificate of Divorce I suggest you contact you ex and ask for it. She possibly has both copies (hers and yours).

If your copy of the “Certificate of Divorce” is unobtainable or “lost” file a police loss report and take that to the Umphur where you divorced. The Umphur will issue you with certified photocopies of the original Application for divorce paperwork which is legally accepted as a replacement for the lost Certificate of Divorce.

The umphur will not issue a replacement certificate of divorce Khor Ror 7 document.

Edited July 20, 2009 by Farma

[wasabi]

Thank you very much everyone. I think my case may be unique so my document is different. I originally divorced my wife at the Thai consulate in Los Angeles USA. They gave me a very definite looking document that says we are divorced.There is another thread I started about this somewhere on TV. Fast forward 3 years and I met a Laotian girl who I have nearly completed a K1 visa process with. At the onset of this about a year ago I contacted a lawyer since it seemed my case may be complex. He noticed my consular divorce and told me it was not sufficient to marry again and begin the K1 process. Thus I had to contact my ex wife and go to the Amphur and complete our divorce proceedings. We told them our situation I filled out some forms and they gave me the new document. It is a document that notes the details of our original marriage and at the end has an appendage that notes that we are now divorced. Given that I had the consular divorce this appears to be how they handle such situations.

There had been some talk that I couldn't divorce because I was already divorced yet I couldn't marry because I was still married by US law. According to my lawyer and at this point the USCIS I am indeed divorced by the laws in both countries because I have already passed the point where they check my divorce record and would have notified me if they felt otherwise. I didn't know this until I checked with my lawyer today. Thus even though there is just a small amendment to my original Tabian som rot (marriage document) it is all that is required in my case and also is the only document available. If I have one point of advice for anyone DO NOT GET A CONSULAR DIVORCE. Divorce only in the country you were married in. This whole thing has been a huge pain and I have no idea why they even offer the divorce service at the various consulates since it throws you into legal limbo.

Edited July 20, 2009 by wasabi

[Mario2008]

Thank you very much everyone. I think my case may be unique so my document is different. I originally divorced my wife at the Thai consulate in Los Angeles USA. They gave me a very definite looking document that says we are divorced.There is another thread I started about this somewhere on TV. Fast forward 3 years and I met a Laotian girl who I have nearly completed a K1 visa process with. At the onset of this about a year ago I contacted a lawyer since it seemed my case may be complex. He noticed my consular divorce and told me it was not sufficient to marry again and begin the K1 process. Thus I had to contact my ex wife and go to the Amphur and complete our divorce proceedings. We told them our situation I filled out some forms and they gave me the new document. It is a document that notes the details of our original marriage and at the end has an appendage that notes that we are now divorced. Given that I had the consular divorce this appears to be how they handle such situations.

There had been some talk that I couldn't divorce because I was already divorced yet I couldn't marry because I was still married by US law. According to my lawyer and at this point the USCIS I am indeed divorced by the laws in both countries because I have already passed the point where they check my divorce record and would have notified me if they felt otherwise. I didn't know this until I checked with my lawyer today. Thus even though there is just a small amendment to my original Tabian som rot (marriage document) it is all that is required in my case and also is the only document available. If I have one point of advice for anyone DO NOT GET A CONSULAR DIVORCE. Divorce only in the country you were married in. This whole thing has been a huge pain and I have no idea why they even offer the divorce service at the various consulates since it throws you into legal limbo.

I would just say do not get a consular divorce, divorce under the law of the country you are in. Consular divorces are normaly only recognosed by the country of the consulate, while if you divorce under the law of the country you are in it is usualy accepted by all other countries.

[thebee]

Do you have to get a divorce at the same Amphur you married at as I am about to get a divorce from my wife and if I could get it done in Bangkok that would save a few nasty days travelling to and from where we got married. We are not the best of friends anymore and getting divorced in Bangkok would be great for both of us.

[Mario2008]

Do you have to get a divorce at the same Amphur you married at as I am about to get a divorce from my wife and if I could get it done in Bangkok that would save a few nasty days travelling to and from where we got married. We are not the best of friends anymore and getting divorced in Bangkok would be great for both of us.

You can get married at any amohur and also get divorced at any amphur. But do bring the marriage certificate with you. However the procedur is slightly different if you divorce at another amphur.

http://www.dopa.go.th/English/servi/divode.htm

Procedures

• If the couple file for divorce at the District Office where the marriage was registered, the couple is required to file a request to the Registrar and to present the Divorce Agreement Letter which contains a settlement regarding personal assets, custody of children and other matters (if any).
  
• If the couple file for divorce at different District Office, both parties must agree who shall file for divorce first and where. The couple is required to submit a request to the Registrar, as well as a Divorce Agreement Letter regarding assets, custody of children and other matters (if applicable).
  
• If the couple are divorced by a court order, they are not required to register their divorce.
  

Required Documents

1. Identification Card.
   
2. Marriage Registration Certificate or House Registration Certificate.
   
3. Divorce Agreement Letter.
   

[thebee]

Thanks Mario2008. One quick question. What does the Divorce agreement letter have to contain. This is all new to me and I am lost. Is their a template I can download. Also do I have to get it translated into Thai. My wife and I have no children and no property so nothing to dispute. I just want things done as easy as possible.

[Mario2008]

This being Thailand it has to be done in Thai. I'm not sure what they mean with it, but probably a letter stating that you both agree to a divorce and that you make this and this arrangement. That can be paying support or agreeing not to pay support. In your case it should be real easy, as there is nothing to split.

You might also need witnesses, who can't be family members.

[thebee]

Thanks Mario2008. One quick question. What does the Divorce agreement letter have to contain. This is all new to me and I am lost. Is their a template I can download. Also do I have to get it translated into Thai. My wife and I have no children and no property so nothing to dispute. I just want things done as easy as possible.