People Warned Against Forwarding PM's Doctored Audio Clip

[mulliganstew]

quote name='Thai at Heart' post='2995771' date='2009-09-08 00:30:42']Thaksin is, was and never would have been a dealbreaker in China for Thailand. That real power lies with other industrialists in Bangkok.[/quote

Who are these industrialists?

No, not rational that the "mystery hand" whistles uncle sam.

Who is the mystery hand?

Maybe Taksin was also in tune with this and spied another damsel coming to the ball.

Who is Taksin? Don't you mean Thaksin? That's how he spells it himself on his website and official documents, anyway.

Spelling Thaksin Shinawatra's name Taksin

They are separate and distinct names in both Thai and English.

I've seen several posts deleted or edited when incorrect names were posted and was curious about this being allowed.

I know the other posts above weren't yours, but do you have any information regarding the industrialists or mystery hand mentioned by the other posters?

[noithip]

They are separate and distinct names in both Thai and English.

The names might be different, maybe their fate similar

[SHYTALK]

He with his own hand left the Prime Ministers chair.

/quote]

At the hands of the gun, not the ballot box.

[SHYTALK]

..implication is that the illegitemate product of a military coup, and a junta appointed judiciary, is democracy, because american foreign policy says so.

Of course not.

They installed a government that for once listened to the people, ministers who were ashamed of stealing from the people, and parliament that represented the people.

And they didn't appointed judiciary. Post-coup Constitution Court was staffed with judges from other top courts, not military barracks, and top judiciary is NOT under army's boot - they get their own audiences and inspiration directly from the Head of State.

"They installed" is not good enough, certainly not a democracy there then.

[SHYTALK]

Spelling Thaksin Shinawatra's name Taksin is partly to tie himn to the legendary General /King Taksin the great.

And so attempting to tie him top a long time Siam legend, as maybe a second coming etc.

Plays on the Godhead myth of late.

Taksin ruled for 15 years absolutely,

but end up tied into a silk sack and beaten to death.

Does Jim Thompson have a Thaksin monogrammed bag in stock?

What becomes a legend most!

Hillarious but sad, spoken like a true leg end.

[animatic]

He with his own hand left the Prime Ministers chair.

At the hands of the gun, not the ballot box.

No at the stroke of his own pen, when he dissolved Parliament and called the 2006 snap election.

He then became Acting Interim Prime Minister, a seat warmer in case of emergencies...

One of which he attempted to gin up after the snap election was annulled.

Of course people caught wind of that subterfuge, and cut him off at the pass.

And he has been trying an end run ever since.

"Democracy is not my goal." he said.

One of his truthful statements, in a minority position

[SHYTALK]

He with his own hand left the Prime Ministers chair.

At the hands of the gun, not the ballot box.

No at the stroke of his own pen, when he dissolved Parliament and called the 2006 snap election.

He then became Acting Interim Prime Minister, a seat warmer in case of emergencies...

One of which he attempted to gin up after the snap election was annulled.

Of course people caught wind of that subterfuge, and cut him off at the pass.

And he has been trying an end run ever since.

"Democracy is not my goal." he said.

One of his truthful statements, in a minority position

A strange way of describing a military coup.

After the snap election was won.

[SHYTALK]

..implication is that the illegitemate product of a military coup, and a junta appointed judiciary, is democracy, because american foreign policy says so.

Of course not.

They installed a government that for once listened to the people, ministers who were ashamed of stealing from the people, and parliament that represented the people.

And they didn't appointed judiciary. Post-coup Constitution Court was staffed with judges from other top courts, not military barracks, and top judiciary is NOT under army's boot - they get their own audiences and inspiration directly from the Head of State.

Your inference perhaps but not my implication as the poster/forumist correctly recognizes and understands in the above post (as with a lot of other people).

My statement is that the US Government and the Kingdom of Thailand have had a special relationship since the immediate post WWII years regardless of who was PM.

Relations between the US and Thailand began in 1833 to include King Mongkut shipping two elephants to Pres Lincoln to help him to successfully fight the Civil War.

In short, who's this completely out of bounds Thaksin guy???

Only the guy who won three general elections, as voted for by the people of thailand.

Democracy in action.

America has many "special relationships " with governments of every colour, and is not the determinant of what constitutes democracy.

Do you think america is there for thailands ends?

Just as a relationship with a lady of the night, one gives a service, one gives the wazza.

[Plus]

..implication is that the illegitemate product of a military coup, and a junta appointed judiciary, is democracy, because american foreign policy says so.

Of course not.

They installed a government that for once listened to the people, ministers who were ashamed of stealing from the people, and parliament that represented the people.

And they didn't appointed judiciary. Post-coup Constitution Court was staffed with judges from other top courts, not military barracks, and top judiciary is NOT under army's boot - they get their own audiences and inspiration directly from the Head of State.

"They installed" is not good enough, certainly not a democracy there then.

Yeah, but that government is long gone while Thaksin inspired election fraud still lives on, under the guise of "democracy".

[animatic]

He with his own hand left the Prime Ministers chair.

At the hands of the gun, not the ballot box.

No at the stroke of his own pen, when he dissolved Parliament and called the 2006 snap election.

He then became Acting Interim Prime Minister, a seat warmer in case of emergencies...

One of which he attempted to gin up after the snap election was annulled.

Of course people caught wind of that subterfuge, and cut him off at the pass.

And he has been trying an end run ever since.

"Democracy is not my goal." he said.

One of his truthful statements, in a minority position

A strange way of describing a military coup.

After the snap election was won.

After the snap election was annulled for cheating and the ENTIRE Election Commission jailed for malfeasance.

The coup was not removing him from the seat of Prime Minister,

but only as the seat warmer ACTING PM.

Which incidentally does not hold all the powers, rights and obligations of a true PM.

Let also not forget during this SAME ELECTION that TRT felt obliged to bribe

tiny irrelevant parties to run against them, in several constituencies.

Why, you purposely don't ask?

Because TRT could NOT WIN the 20% of the vote needed to win an UNCONTESTED SEAT.

So they cheated and got caught red handed and got dissolved,

and accused the Dems of the same thing, tit for tat, which was never proved.

Thaksin was already on the road to being banned, and he KNEW IT,

when he started another tack to hold on to power.

We NOW know how well that scheme worked.

Edited September 9, 2009 by animatic

[animatic]

..implication is that the illegitemate product of a military coup, and a junta appointed judiciary, is democracy, because american foreign policy says so.

Of course not.

They installed a government that for once listened to the people, ministers who were ashamed of stealing from the people, and parliament that represented the people.

And they didn't appointed judiciary. Post-coup Constitution Court was staffed with judges from other top courts, not military barracks, and top judiciary is NOT under army's boot - they get their own audiences and inspiration directly from the Head of State.

Your inference perhaps but not my implication as the poster/forumist correctly recognizes and understands in the above post (as with a lot of other people).

My statement is that the US Government and the Kingdom of Thailand have had a special relationship since the immediate post WWII years regardless of who was PM.

Relations between the US and Thailand began in 1833 to include King Mongkut shipping two elephants to Pres Lincoln to help him to successfully fight the Civil War.

In short, who's this completely out of bounds Thaksin guy???

Only the guy who won three general elections, as voted for by the people of thailand.

Democracy in action.

America has many "special relationships " with governments of every colour, and is not the determinant of what constitutes democracy.

Do you think america is there for thailands ends?

Just as a relationship with a lady of the night, one gives a service, one gives the wazza.

Does the job descrition say;

Wanted: Pedantic Harpie.

Repeat this list of lines as often as possible.

Be annoying if you like, but veracity is not optional.

He had 5 good years, and then screwed up, a record in Thailand for longevity,

but a typical denouement. The guy is toast, short of coup/revolution,

but the news hasn't filtered from his ears to his brain. Ego blockage.

[fullcave]

Proof of truth in this respect means nothing in Thai law.

And that seems to count for ThaiVisa as well. Here one can state whatever one feels to, no proof needed, regardless of all evidence to the contrary, as long as one hates Thaksin.

Hate? No just feel sorry for him as he is obviously suffering intensely but why does he suffer so?

"The kind of seed sown

will produce that kind of fruit.

Those who do good will reap good results.

Those who do evil will reap evil results.

If you carefully plant a good seed,

You will joyfully gather good fruit."

Dhammapada

[SHYTALK]

Proof of truth in this respect means nothing in Thai law.

And that seems to count for ThaiVisa as well. Here one can state whatever one feels to, no proof needed, regardless of all evidence to the contrary, as long as one hates Thaksin.

Hate? No just feel sorry for him as he is obviously suffering intensely but why does he suffer so?

"The kind of seed sown

will produce that kind of fruit.

Those who do good will reap good results.

Those who do evil will reap evil results.

If you carefully plant a good seed,

You will joyfully gather good fruit."

Dhammapada

Shame about the seed of electoral democracy.

Sure you will reap what you sow.

[SHYTALK]

..implication is that the illegitemate product of a military coup, and a junta appointed judiciary, is democracy, because american foreign policy says so.

Of course not.

They installed a government that for once listened to the people, ministers who were ashamed of stealing from the people, and parliament that represented the people.

And they didn't appointed judiciary. Post-coup Constitution Court was staffed with judges from other top courts, not military barracks, and top judiciary is NOT under army's boot - they get their own audiences and inspiration directly from the Head of State.

"They installed" is not good enough, certainly not a democracy there then.

Yeah, but that government is long gone while Thaksin inspired election fraud still lives on, under the guise of "democracy".

So to is electoral democracy...long gone.

[SHYTALK]

After the snap election was annulled for cheating and the ENTIRE Election Commission jailed for malfeasance.

The coup was not removing him from the seat of Prime Minister,

but only as the seat warmer ACTING PM.

Which incidentally does not hold all the powers, rights and obligations of a true PM.

Let also not forget during this SAME ELECTION that TRT felt obliged to bribe

tiny irrelevant parties to run against them, in several constituencies.

Why, you purposely don't ask?

Because TRT could NOT WIN the 20% of the vote needed to win an UNCONTESTED SEAT.

So they cheated and got caught red handed and got dissolved,

and accused the Dems of the same thing, tit for tat, which was never proved.

Thaksin was already on the road to being banned, and he KNEW IT,

when he started another tack to hold on to power.

We NOW know how well that scheme worked.

Fancifull, but typically stero-typed.

An even stranger defense of a military coup and actions of junta appointees.

But then , do what you want when you are holding the gun.

And would the tit for tat ever be proved in such circumstances?

All that was annulled was democratic means.

[SHYTALK]

Only the guy who won three general elections, as voted for by the people of thailand.

Democracy in action.

America has many "special relationships " with governments of every colour, and is not the determinant of what constitutes democracy.

Do you think america is there for thailands ends?

Just as a relationship with a lady of the night, one gives a service, one gives the wazza.

Does the job descrition say;

Wanted: Pedantic Harpie.

Repeat this list of lines as often as possible.

Be annoying if you like, but veracity is not optional.

He had 5 good years, and then screwed up, a record in Thailand for longevity,

but a typical denouement. The guy is toast, short of coup/revolution,

but the news hasn't filtered from his ears to his brain. Ego blockage.

Not suprising , in keeping with the association youv'e already made for us.

But job descriptions are only any use in a democracy.

Any relation to Lord Haw Haw !

[Plus]

So to is electoral democracy...long gone.

Try looking harder. Parliament, for example. All their MPs are elected. Why don't you celebrate that obvious fact?

[SHYTALK]

So to is electoral democracy...long gone.

Try looking harder. Parliament, for example. All their MPs are elected. Why don't you celebrate that obvious fact?

Not the one you're talking about .

Needs the voice of the people for legitimacy.

Untill then..junta regime.

[animatic]

So to is electoral democracy...long gone.

Try looking harder. Parliament, for example. All their MPs are elected. Why don't you celebrate that obvious fact?

Not the one you're talking about .

Needs the voice of the people for legitimacy.

Untill then..junta regime.

171 spams and counting.

[ThNiner]

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[Publicus]

[Publicus]

Ninty percent of farang posters/forumists agree which is a remarkable spontaneous concensus among democratic peoples who hail from mature/sophisticated democracies.

[SHYTALK]

But a big fat duck egg from that great democracy thailand.

[Publicus]

Not to mention the turd in the punchbowl Kuhnt Thaksin himself.

[SHYTALK]

Not to mention the turd in the punchbowl Kuhnt Thaksin himself.

Takes a bigger one to know one.

[animatic]

But a big fat duck egg from that great democracy thailand.

Thailand a great democracy??? When?

It has some democratic institutiots,

but Thaksin raped many of them asunder with his greed.

Big duck egg???

Well that explains where you get your point of view from!

But from down there things should be looking up.

No where else to go from so far down in the slime.

Not all your quacked up to be maybe? Take off your yoke

of the proto-oppressor Thaksin, and be free.

[SHYTALK]

"LORD ABI-CHARLES"

Why does everybody get me confused with Abisit !.

I am posh and elite and I went to Eton Public school.......oh!..... so did Abi

But I am a ventriloquist's dummy with a mystery hand up my chuff......oh!.......so is Abi.

I have two best mates "titch and quackers ".........oh!.....so has Abi

But you cannot take me seriously,my words are anothers,.....oh!.....same with Abi

[TAWP]

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[SHYTALK]

But a big fat duck egg from that great democracy thailand.

Thailand a great democracy??? When?

It has some democratic institutiots,

but Thaksin raped many of them asunder with his greed.

Big duck egg???

Well that explains where you get your point of view from!

But from down there things should be looking up.

No where else to go from so far down in the slime.

Not all your quacked up to be maybe? Take off your yoke

of the proto-oppressor Thaksin, and be free.

Leave it, its over your head, but go break off your shackles of the "force-fed " , and join with the ranks of the "free -range"

Your just an old , washed up , "battery-hen"

[Publicus]

Not to mention the turd in the punchbowl Kuhnt Thaksin himself.

Takes a bigger one to know one.

My statements that pertain to you are that your posts have become glib and therefore intellectually boring. Any "harsh" statements I might make are about Thaksin himself and his policies.

However, the above statement and your statements directed at other forumists and their intellectually respectable posts are rapidly degenerating from glib apologies for Thaksin to ad hominem and juvenile schoolyard wise cracks.

As someone around here who's becoming perhaps the (presently) lead apologist of Thaksin and his gang you leave much to be desired as a respected advocate of a convicted fugitive who made a mess of what already was a struggling Thai democracy. Whatsay you clean up your rapidly degenerating act?