Politically, Trump is a creature of the billionaire class. His major backers are  billionaire technocrats (Musk, Peter Thiel), Israeli supporters (Madeline Adelson), old money (Peter Mellon), and Paypal exec David Sacks -- all of whom have extensive ties with the "Deep State," the military, the financial class. What do you think these people want for their money?

 

 

Payback! Anything else would be stupid! And who is going to pay? 

 

Anyway, been ridiculous many treads about America and American politics now, and it seems to never stop.

 

Maybe time to find a new forum with Asia as priority 

Cant have puppet masters without the obligatory Jew

32 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Cant have puppet masters without the obligatory Jew

This is what you're going to see in the new Trump administration: all in support for Israel, no more government anti-trust suits against big tech, no meaningful financial market reform, pressure from Trump on Powell to lower interest rates, big tax cuts for corporations and the rich partly paid for by increased tariffs, which means increased prices for the middle class, further consolidation of tech monopolies, more and bigger subsidies for Elon Musk companies, further worker suppression (no increase in the minimum wage, no support for unions), a possible cut in social security, greater wealth inequality. Trump will continue to support Ukraine, as his Cabinet is stuffed with war hawks, but sanctions will ease on Russia.

 

And the Deep State will thrive.

6 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

This is what you're going to see in the new Trump administration: all in support for Israel, no more government anti-trust suits against big tech, no meaningful financial market reform, pressure from Trump on Powell to lower interest rates, big tax cuts for corporations and the rich partly paid for by increased tariffs, which means increased prices for the middle class, further consolidation of tech monopolies, more and bigger subsidies for Elon Musk companies, further worker suppression (no increase in the minimum wage, no support for unions), a possible cut in social security, greater wealth inequality. Trump will continue to support Ukraine, as his Cabinet is stuffed with war hawks, but sanctions will ease on Russia.

 

And the Deep State will thrive.

You missed out a couple of other "interested parties", in particular the health"insurance" and pharmaceutical industries. Together they will expect and receive the demise of any real attempt to provide a "non profit" health system.

8 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

This is what you're going to see in the new Trump administration: all in support for Israel, no more government anti-trust suits against big tech, no meaningful financial market reform, pressure from Trump on Powell to lower interest rates, big tax cuts for corporations and the rich partly paid for by increased tariffs, which means increased prices for the middle class, further consolidation of tech monopolies, more and bigger subsidies for Elon Musk companies, further worker suppression (no increase in the minimum wage, no support for unions), a possible cut in social security, greater wealth inequality. Trump will continue to support Ukraine, as his Cabinet is stuffed with war hawks, but sanctions will ease on Russia.

 

And the Deep State will thrive.

spoken like a true Leftist propagandist. Glad to see the complete repudiationof your views in America hasnt sunk in.

1 minute ago, herfiehandbag said:

You missed out a couple of other "interested parties", in particular the health"insurance" and pharmaceutical industries. Together they will expect and receive the demise of any real attempt to provide a "non profit" health system.

But I wonder what he's going to do with Bobby Kennedy. My feeling is that he'll try to dump him as soon as possible or at least marginalize him. But Bobby won't take that lying down.

15 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

This is what you're going to see in the new Trump administration: all in support for Israel, no more government anti-trust suits against big tech, no meaningful financial market reform, pressure from Trump on Powell to lower interest rates, big tax cuts for corporations and the rich partly paid for by increased tariffs, which means increased prices for the middle class, further consolidation of tech monopolies, more and bigger subsidies for Elon Musk companies, further worker suppression (no increase in the minimum wage, no support for unions), a possible cut in social security, greater wealth inequality. Trump will continue to support Ukraine, as his Cabinet is stuffed with war hawks, but sanctions will ease on Russia.

 

And the Deep State will thrive.

Sounds like a better alternative to WW3 that democrats would have caused

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Payback! Anything else would be stupid! And who is going to pay? 

 

Anyway, been ridiculous many treads about America and American politics now, and it seems to never stop.

 

Maybe time to find a new forum with Asia as priority 

Hey buddy. Bitcoin is 90,000 dollars. And all your political beliefs are wrong too

Just now, mdr224 said:

Hey buddy. Bitcoin is 90,000 dollars. And all your political beliefs are wrong too

That's my whole point. Bubble, bubble, everywhere. The rich are grabbing while the grabbing is good. It's musical chairs now. The question is what happens when the music stops.

3 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

That's my whole point. Bubble, bubble, everywhere. The rich are grabbing while the grabbing is good. It's musical chairs now. The question is what happens when the music stops.

The markets are reacting to a trump win. What its saying is that these next four years will be glorious. America and israel haters lose again

Edited November 14, 20241 yr by mdr224

7 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Hey buddy. Bitcoin is 90,000 dollars. And all your political beliefs are wrong too

What does this have to do with BTC? BTC is an illusion, not worth nothing, except what people are willing to pay at the moment! It's a belief in something that doesn't exists, and sums up Maga's beliefs in Trump to! An Illusion 

 

How come you are right and I'm wrong? 

 

Trump have no dignity, just another clown, only a clown

Edited November 14, 20241 yr by Hummin

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

What does this have to do with BTC? BTC is an illusion, not worth nothing, except what people are willing to pay at the moment! It's a belief in something that doesn't exists, and sums up Maga's to

 

How come you are right and I'm wrong? 

 

Trump have no dignity, just another clown, only a clown

Double down until youve got nothing left. America haters will always lose

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

What does this have to do with BTC? BTC is an illusion, not worth nothing, except what people are willing to pay at the moment! It's a belief in something that doesn't exists, and sums up Maga's to

 

How come you are right and I'm wrong? 

 

Trump have no dignity, just another clown, only a clown

Naw, we are winners.

 

You are the loser. Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooser.

1 minute ago, mdr224 said:

Double down until youve got nothing left. America haters will always lose

Proud to be, and do have a quite good life, so I'm not worried, but your aggressive take on every reply against Magas, seems a bit worrying thinking of you trying to justify your beliefs in absolutely nothing else than a fraud. 

 

I have time to observe your beliefs going down the drain. 

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Naw, we are winners.

 

You are the loser. Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooser.

Time will show, 

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Proud to be, and do have a quite good life, so I'm not worried, but your aggressive take on every reply against Magas, seems a bit worrying thinking of you trying to justify your beliefs in absolutely nothing else than a fraud. 

 

I have time to observe your beliefs going down the drain. 

Your america bashing has come back to haunt you this time. Keep telling everyone how your life is so great, nobody believes you

Edited November 14, 20241 yr by mdr224

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have time to observe your beliefs going down the drain. 

Not me, I'm already old and probably don't have another four years.

1 hour ago, jaywalker2 said:

Politically, Trump is a creature of the billionaire class. His major backers are  billionaire technocrats (Musk, Peter Thiel), Israeli supporters (Madeline Adelson), old money (Peter Mellon), and Paypal exec David Sacks -- all of whom have extensive ties with the "Deep State," the military, the financial class. What do you think these people want for their money?

I've mentioned it a few times in other threads.

 

The word democracy is practically meaningless.

Maybe oligarchy or plutocracy is more accurate.

Maybe it was decided that Trump would be figurehead a few years ago and the elections were just a show.

 

But that doesn't mean every decision they make is BAD for everyone.

It doesn't mean they always only think about themselves and don't care about the lower classes at all.

 

Also, they need people to be working and productive in order to maintain their billionaire status. 

 

But it doesn't mean you will agree with everything they're doing.

And they don't care what you think.

He who has the gold makes the rules. 

 

Edited November 14, 20241 yr by save the frogs

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

What does this have to do with BTC? BTC is an illusion, not worth nothing, except what people are willing to pay at the moment! It's a belief in something that doesn't exists, and sums up Maga's beliefs in Trump to! An Illusion 

 

How come you are right and I'm wrong? 

 

Trump have no dignity, just another clown, only a clown

You got that right about BTC being an illusion.  At least many major currencies have some form of backup, however, the questionable the backup.

If the internet goes down how accessible will BTC be?

8 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Your america bashing has come back to haunt you this time. Keep telling everyone how your life is so great, nobody believes you

You just making a laugh of yourself, and the whole world laughing of and with you. 

2 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

What do you think these people want for their money?

Elon wants the govt to back up and not interfere with his massive projects - self-driving cars, robots

Which will radically change how we live.

 

7 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

You got that right about BTC being an illusion.  At least many major currencies have some form of backup, however, the questionable the backup.

If the internet goes down how accessible will BTC be?

I could try to explain it to you, but youre probably old and it would be a waste of my time

Do any of you realize how horrible these people are? Especially Peter Thiel, the so called libertarian who believes tech monopolies should be given free reign, who  opposes Medicare and Social Security, who calls himself a corporate Nietzchean, and complained in 2009 that democracy suffered when the vote was given to women.

 

Adelson, an uncompromising Zionist. Musk, of course, decried unions as "monopolies" that need to be squashed and now has free reign to use the government to bolster his business. Plus, he's nut. I think he wants to establish a white colony on Mars.

 

Oh, well, maybe you live in interesting time, as the Chinese say.

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

But that doesn't mean every decision they make is BAD for everyone.

IIt doesn't mean they always only think about themselves and don't care about the lower classes at all.

 

It means, loosening whatever restrictions remain on the rich elite controlling society. If "the people" happen to benefit from their policies but it will be accidental not intentional. These guys see the lower classes as serfs to do their bidding.

1 minute ago, jaywalker2 said:

Do any of you realize how horrible these people are? Especially Peter Thiel, the so called libertarian who believes tech monopolies should be given free reign, who  opposes Medicare and Social Security, who calls himself a corporate Nietzchean, and complained in 2009 that democracy suffered when the vote was given to women.

 

Adelson, an uncompromising Zionist. Musk, of course, decried unions as "monopolies" that need to be squashed and now has free reign to use the government to bolster his business. Plus, he's nut. I think he wants to establish a white colony on Mars.

 

Oh, well, maybe you live in interesting time, as the Chinese say.

 

They don't. They simply want to take a wrecking ball to everything and thereby protect the billionaire class with lack of regulations. The useful idiots believe that "a  new day" must be better than what they have now. They don't understand that they are at the bottom of the heap and will fare worst. Welcome to 1984.

6 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

I could try to explain it to you, but youre probably old and it would be a waste of my time

An illusion is an illusion.  Your explanation would just be another illusion. 

6 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Do any of you realize how horrible these people are? Especially Peter Thiel, the so called libertarian who believes tech monopolies should be given free reign, who  opposes Medicare and Social Security, who calls himself a corporate Nietzchean, and complained in 2009 that democracy suffered when the vote was given to women.

 

Adelson, an uncompromising Zionist. Musk, of course, decried unions as "monopolies" that need to be squashed and now has free reign to use the government to bolster his business. Plus, he's nut. I think he wants to establish a white colony on Mars.

 

Oh, well, maybe you live in interesting time, as the Chinese say.

Trumps oligarchs are better than bill gates, george soros, etc…

i dont know why leftists decry musks role as a bad thing, the guy is smarter than anyone currently in the government

1 minute ago, Hawaiian said:

An illusion is an illusion.  Your explanation would just be another illusion. 

An illusion thats worth 90,000 dollars. If you cant grasp it you can continue to watch in disbelief as it takes off to nothing you could have thought possible in 2025

3 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

An illusion thats worth 90,000 dollars. If you cant grasp it you can continue to watch in disbelief as it takes off to nothing you could have thought possible in 2025

Only worth 90,000 dollars to the fools that will buy it at that price.  I'll stick to silver and gold.

Edited November 14, 20241 yr by Hawaiian