KIFKIF Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennya12threh Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I believe they don't any bike rental shops in BKK as far as big bikes. Maybe some hotels rent scooters. You need to go to Pattaya to rent big bikes. 400s, 600s, 1000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIFKIF Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 OK OK Lenny, So i seriously think to set up a big bikes rent store here in BKK for my friends and their friends who comes to visits me ,yours friends guys as well even for peoples who loves riding but small budget or needs bike for few days in BKK,affordable rental prices,full insured. Might open soon.actually doing website. Cheers Franck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzinged Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Good luck finding an insurer that will cover you and your venture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Good luck finding an insurer that will cover you and your venture! +1 on that. First serious accident and you're done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madjbs Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Well someone must be insuring all the other rental places in Thailand, so I don't see why it would be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Well someone must be insuring all the other rental places in Thailand, so I don't see why it would be a problem. None of the big bikes here (Phuket) are insured.. I cant get fully comp insurance on my blade, would love to find out I am wrong but tried a lot of agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUDAS Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Well someone must be insuring all the other rental places in Thailand, so I don't see why it would be a problem. None of the big bikes here (Phuket) are insured.. I cant get fully comp insurance on my blade, would love to find out I am wrong but tried a lot of agents. I believe that may be due to the age of your bike as I'm sure I've read that 1st class insurance is also not available for cars over 7 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Well someone must be insuring all the other rental places in Thailand, so I don't see why it would be a problem. None of the big bikes here (Phuket) are insured.. I cant get fully comp insurance on my blade, would love to find out I am wrong but tried a lot of agents. I believe that may be due to the age of your bike as I'm sure I've read that 1st class insurance is also not available for cars over 7 years old? Exactly.. But what age are the majority of those rental big bikes ?? Very few shiny newish ones.. OK a couple (mostly Yammy R1's to my eyes) but not many.. Am speaking purely about Phuket where I see them tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Well someone must be insuring all the other rental places in Thailand, so I don't see why it would be a problem. Even if you could get insurance for rental bikes in Bangkok I'm sure the premiums will be sky high. The rental rates would therefore have to be a lot higher. If there was money to be made renting big bikes in Bangkok surely someone would be doing it already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixed Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 The idea of a tourist flying in and jumping on a big bike riding around Bkk is pretty scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kf6vci Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Am trying to shake images of some idiot red-lining the lovely ZX 12 or whatever the second it starts. Or melting the clutch in stop and go traffic. One bad customer might cost you literally THB XXX thousands. Nah, this is one business I wouldn't want to be in. Or else I might lose it and try a kick a la Eric Cantona (Manchester United player who after getting sent off attacked a spectator in some spectacular fashion) CM is the place to go for both, renting and riding! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUDAS Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 IF I was to consider doing as the OP is planning I would probably look at both ends of the market as opposed to just "affordable rental" Definitely would have to be Kawasaki new bikes at the minute as no other reasonably priced big bikes with easy spare parts access. I would be trying to generate interest in prepaid packages offering x amount of days touring Thailand with accommodation etc included for customer and routes loaded in a GPS unit. Possibly the option of a local guide ( one company doing this already but not in BKK ) Central BKK IMO is not a good location, I'd be looking at outskirts, allowing customers to pick up bike then avoid a ride through the city. No Thai or IDP, no rental, if you want to offer valid insurance. I would also make a slightly higher excess on the insurance to "encourage" customers to treat the bike as their own. I actually think the plan has possibilities, just because it's not being done now means nothing, someone has to start the ball rolling. I certainly wouldn't rule out the local Thai market either, many wealthy locals around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUDAS Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 IF I was to consider doing as the OP is planning I would probably look at both ends of the market as opposed to just "affordable rental" Definitely would have to be Kawasaki new bikes at the minute as no other reasonably priced big bikes with easy spare parts access. I would be trying to generate interest in prepaid packages offering x amount of days touring Thailand with accommodation etc included for customer and routes loaded in a GPS unit. Possibly the option of a local guide ( one company doing this already but not in BKK ) Central BKK IMO is not a good location, I'd be looking at outskirts, allowing customers to pick up bike then avoid a ride through the city. No Thai or IDP, no rental, if you want to offer valid insurance. I would also make a slightly higher excess on the insurance to "encourage" customers to treat the bike as their own. I actually think the plan has possibilities, just because it's not being done now means nothing, someone has to start the ball rolling. I certainly wouldn't rule out the local Thai market either, many wealthy locals around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 If there was a company in Bangkok offering newish and well maintained R1's, R6's, ZX10R's etc then I'd use them. I'm in the position that I ride the 250R to work every day and I love it in BKK traffic but I'd like a bit more for the longer weekend trips to the beach (Cha Am, Rayong etc). At the moment the only option is hoping that the ZX6R eventually comes in at under 500k (and un-restricted) which seems like a long shot at the moment. I'd jump at the chance of hiring a decent big bike for a couple of weekends a month. Much more attractive than putting 5-600k into a bike that I only ride now and then. Plus it would eliminate the hassle of selling it and taking the depreciation hit when I leave Thailand/fancy a change etc. Unfortunately, there's probably not too many others looking for this type of thing so as a business venture I'd be a bit wary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Well, if there were big bikes for rent in Bangkok I might use them to practice stunting and perhaps for use at some local tracks so I could save my bike from the wear and tear... I think I'm not the only one who likes to abuse rentals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 I believe there is a market for a serious rental company, in the past, insurance companies did never wanted to get involved into a rental company which rented out big bikes, this was mainly because this big bike companies had no official representatives in Thailand. But now that Kawasaki, and a few more have officially opened office and have official parts and maintenance prices things are changing. I remember a case of my g/f versa a insurance company which didn't wanted to pay because the prices for the motorcycle repair where astronomical, and therefore the insurance company claimed it could not be correct. The damage was the complete front section, including radiator and cylinder head and frame adjustment... of our BMW Xroad 650. The accident happend, because the owner of a pick-up moved out of the parking lot of a bank, and did not paid attention to traffic (other then 4 wheels). BMW Thailand, testified in court that the motorcycle was officially imported, officially registered and allowed to use public roads and therefore the repair costs officially supported by BMW Co Ltd. (Thailand) was nothing other then the official repair to a higher then standard two-wheel vehicle. Our lawyer also commented to the judge, that a 1985 Toyota Corrola, worth less then 50,000 Baht, but still fully insured, could accidental have an accident with a Bentley or top of the line Benz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kf6vci Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 A guy from Norway contacted me with such a plan for the Don Mueang area. He wants to start with Kawa ER6 bikes and offer something along Judas' lines. Personally, I would start little and grow - all Tiger Boxer 250s and a van for the luggage with a spare bike, heading for Petchabun & Loei as competition in CM is fierce. BKK travel be best avoided. I would try to unload the insurance on the customers... Insisting they all have international big bike DLs (for farang). A mate rented a bike with out ever having ridden, in Cyprus. He fell off during a test ride and still was allowed to proceed! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 ...still fully insured, could accidental have an accident with a Bentley or top of the line Benz. could accidental have an accident... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelmate Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Will be changing tyres on a weekly basis. Cue burnouts, trackdays and general hooning about. Good luck to who ever start this business up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 ...still fully insured, could accidental have an accident with a Bentley or top of the line Benz. could accidental have an accident... Thank you for the free English lesson, BigBikeBKK the English teacher :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Will be changing tyres on a weekly basis. Cue burnouts, trackdays and general hooning about.Good luck to who ever start this business up. Yet the Phuket and Patts rentors seem to manage it on fairly minimal daily incomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderpuff Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 The ones in Pattaya are all thieves. You got your little red plate. Not worth squat outside the city. No insurance. No big cash deposit. Mugs game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project504naha Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Try this one www.siamwheels.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuwatmat Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 (edited) we will be renting out ninjas and er6n bikes in bkk from next month,all have 1class insurance and are 100 % legaly registered,we will allso be doing touring with groups. The bikes will be parked and rented out very central in bangkok,there will allso be possible to rent one way to phuket airport and possible at a later stage to koh samui. dents and scratches must be payed by the customer, if "loosing the bike" the customer are reliable for 25 % if the bikes value.day rental 1700 bth. 10k bth deposit and passport. <snip> Edited December 24, 2009 by soundman Email removed & next time pls. post bike for rent in classifieds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I think its a difficult business to run with lots of hassels and not much financial reward. There are alot of foreigners who would not treat the bikes as you would and who will do the most stupid things! What happens if the hirer gets stopped by the BiB and the bike gets siezed (for whatever reason)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submaniac Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 nuwatmat, good luck with your business. This is actually something I would use, and I think it is nice to be able to rent a big bike in Thailand. However, I also agree with Maichai. This is not a business I would want to get into. Motorcycles are much easier to cause damage to than even a car. There are so many people out there who don't know how to ride (but they think they do). It just takes one bad customer to completely destroy a bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelmate Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 10,000baht deposit! Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 And passport.. And about double the daily rate of most renters here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuwatmat Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 And passport.. And about double the daily rate of most renters here.. I was not aware of the fact that you could hire a ninja or er6 in bkk for 850 a day,however i rented one last week for 3 days on samui 2009 er6 for 1500 a day passport and 5k deposit NO insurance and could not leave the 20 km long island,totaly waste of money as the trafic there is deadly i would say wors than driving on sukhumwit as there are less drunk drivers there. feedback are deeply apriciated and if anybody will tell me where i can get that 850 deal no deposit and full insurance i will not bother driving one of my own bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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