Thai Government Alleged Plan To Kill Thaksin

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GOVT'S ALLEGED PLAN TO KILL THAKSIN

They were on track to kill him: Reds

By Naya Jaikawang, Hassaya Chartmontree

The Nation

Published on December 24, 2009

Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan yesterday alleged the government was hatching a secret plan to "get rid of" fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra - backing up his allegation for a second time by disclosing a classified memorandum prepared by the Ministry of

Repeating his claim of last week, Jatuporn said a memorandum on Thai-Cambodian ties, classified as secret and sent from Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, was purportedly a plot to assassinate Thaksin.

"The term "get rid of" is a codeword for killing," he said, claiming such a codeword is commonly understood by MFA officials.

At yesterday's press conference, Jatuporn focused on the five-page annex to the main document which he touched on last week.

The annex outlined responses of varying intensity to the prime minister of Cambodia, he said. The 18 measures included a ban on Thai citizens visiting Cambodian casinos, cancellation of the extradition treaty, reinforcement of troops along the borders, and cancellation of the memorandum of understanding (MOU) on maritime boundaries.

He said the MFA analysis shed light on the dilemma of memorandums of understanding previously signed with Cambodia.

In one case, the MFA urged cancellation of the 2001 MOU on maritime boundaries in order to smear Thaksin for conflict of interest, he said. But an anticipated adverse impact might have led to the questioning of the MOU on land borders, signed in 2000 by Democrat MR Sukhumbhand Paribatra, he added.

He claimed the debate about the MOUs raised two interesting facts - first, Thaksin had no conflict of interest but the government wanted to smear him; and second, the 2000 MOU highlighted the loss of sovereignty around Preah Vihear Temple, but the Democrats did not want to concede their mistake.

The two MOUs have remained in effect and Thailand will not be better off by meddling with them, he said.

The entire memorandum was 12-pages long and should be made public in order to stop the alleged plot to kill Thaksin, he said.

He insisted disclosure of the classified memorandum would neither be harmful to Thai interests nor beneficial to Cambodia.

"The memorandum is illegal with the aim to take Thaksin's life," he said, shrugging off the threat of litigation on unauthorised disclosure of classified information.

He said he might file a counter lawsuit charging the MFA with abuse of power for undertaking illegal actions.

He vowed to use the classified memorandum as a major rallying point for the red shirts to resume street protests next month designed to oust the government.

He also said he planned to censure Deputy Prime Minister Korbsak Sabhavasu for intimidating the judiciary to relocate the construction site for a court in Pai, Mae Hong Son.

Reacting to Jatuporn's claims, Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said he would allow legal experts to determine appropriate counter-measures.

Suthep said the government had not planned on taking out a contract on Thaksin's life as alleged. Even though he had no access to the memorandum in question, he assumed it was just an outline of a general plan for responses to anticipated measures from Cambodia, he said.

Because of the leak, the MFA might have to rethink and redraw the plan, he added.

He said there was virtually nothing he nor the government could do to improve the bilateral ties with Cambodia since its prime minister was fully committed to supporting Thaksin in his attempts to undermine the Thai government.

The House committee on foreign relations plans to launch a hearing and will call on Kasit to testify on the classified memorandum, committee chairman Tophong Chaiyasarn said.

Meanwhile, Chavanond Intarakomalyasut, secretary to the foreign minister, said yesterday the Ministry of Foreign Affairs was preparing to take legal action against Jatuporn for making public the classified documents.

A fact-finding committee has been set up to investigate the leak of the documents, according to a ministry source.

The panel, headed by deputy permanent secretary for foreign affairs Piyawat Niyomroek, has questioned almost 20 people but still has not yet completed its work, the source said.

-- The Nation 2009/12/24

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[Dave the Dude]

"The term "get rid of" is a codeword for killing,"

As my Skool teacher once told me... "Could do better"

Edited December 24, 2009 by Dave the Dude

[shawndoc]

[asiawatcher]

The entire memorandum was 12-pages long and should be made public IT ALREADY HAS BEEN - in order to stop the alleged plot to kill Thaksin, he said.

He insisted disclosure of the classified memorandum would neither be harmful to Thai interests nor beneficial to Cambodia.

"The memorandum is illegal with the aim to take Thaksin's life," - NO ... REALLY? he said, shrugging off the threat of litigation on unauthorised disclosure of classified information.

He said he might file a counter lawsuit charging the MFA with abuse of power for undertaking illegal actions. WHAT - THE THAI GOVT DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL .. NAH...

He vowed to use the classified memorandum as a major rallying point for the red shirts to resume street protests next month designed to oust the government. THAT'LL WORK.. DAMAGE THE COUNTRY MORE IN INTERNATIONAL EYES - LOSE INVESTMENTS, TOURISM, INTERNATIONAL PERCEPTION ON THAILAND AND THE LAND OF SMILES?

He also said he planned to censure Deputy Prime Minister Korbsak Sabhavasu for intimidating the judiciary to relocate the construction site for a court in Pai, Mae Hong Son. WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING?

Reacting to Jatuporn's claims, Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said he would allow legal experts - THIS COULD MAKE A MOVIE to determine appropriate counter-measures.

Suthep said the government had not planned on taking out a contract on Thaksin's life as alleged. Even though he had no access to the memorandum in question, he assumed it was just an outline of a general plan WHAT - ORDER AN EXECUTION? for responses to anticipated measures from Cambodia, he said.

Because of the leak, the MFA might have to rethink and redraw the plan, he added. REALLY? IF THE LOP BURI GUYS CAN POP BULLETS IN BROAD DAYLIGHT AT A BUSINESSMAN (AND NOT KILL HIM) THEN THEY MAY NEED TO RETHINK THEIR 'PLAN'. CAMBO CITIZENS PACK GUNS AS THEY WALK AROUND THE STREETS AS DO THE COPS - WITH I MIGHT ADD, THE OCCASIONAL SHOOT OUT!

He said there was virtually nothing he nor the government could do to improve the bilateral ties with Cambodia since its prime minister was fully committed to supporting Thaksin in his attempts to undermine the Thai government.

The House committee on foreign relations plans to launch a hearing and will call on Kasit to testify on the classified memorandum, committee chairman Tophong Chaiyasarn said.

Meanwhile, Chavanond Intarakomalyasut, secretary to the foreign minister, said yesterday the Ministry of Foreign Affairs was preparing to take legal action against Jatuporn for making public the classified documents.

AND AFTER ALL THIS TIRADE THERE IS NO 'DENIAL'. What a croc...

[virtualtraveller]

Someone should 'take out' Jatuporn. No really, in Thaksin's day a guy like this would have had multiple multi-million baht law suits slapped on him for libel, and would have pipped down by now. Yeah, let the whole thing go to court, when he's failed to convince us all that 'get rid of' (probably the word 'ting' in Thai) does not mean kill someone, he should be fined for contempt of court and parliament, perhaps stripped of his MP status, better still banished to Dubai, and have his tongue cut out for good measure.

This <deleted> is everything Thailand doesn't want to be in the future, he's the archetypical dodgy, mouthy, unintelligent, deceptive politician we're trying to discourage. He serves to be a songteaw driver, no more.

[junglist]

Could you please “Get rid of the Trash over there”? Now when my father said this he didn’t want me to kill the trash just clean it up. Just like this whole mess they don’t want to kill Mr. T. just put him were he belongs. In this case jail.

[phuketrichard]

What took them so long? He should have been offed years ago.

[Graham101]

we're trying to discourage.

You're a voting member of the Thai public or a member of the Democrat Party or higher authority? If not, I suggest you are not one of the "we're" as foreigners are specifically disallowed from taking an active role in Thai politics.

In that case you are just another guest in the country who objects to one political party or it's members highlighting something about the other party that you don't agree with. Hardly makes you a member of the "we're".

Of course it's totally ridiculous to think that the Democrats might come up with the idea to assassinate Thaksin-- especially seeing he seems to have gazumped them every step of the way.

[BangkokJazz]

I like Jatuporn, he makes me laugh.

[KireB]

The real problem is that a lot of Thais do take this creep Jatuporn serious, and actually look up to scum like this!

[alf75]

"The term "get rid of" is a codeword for killing,"

As my Skool teacher once told me... "Could do better"

it comes all to the thai law sistem failure,in australia taksin be charge with treesen start terrorisem in the country ,thered leaders be all in jail for conspirecy with a criminal, the red october criminals be in for life. but that thailand we love criminals

[mitrapaap]

Someone should 'take out' Jatuporn. No really, in Thaksin's day a guy like this would have had multiple multi-million baht law suits slapped on him for libel, and would have pipped down by now. Yeah, let the whole thing go to court, when he's failed to convince us all that 'get rid of' (probably the word 'ting' in Thai) does not mean kill someone, he should be fined for contempt of court and parliament, perhaps stripped of his MP status, better still banished to Dubai, and have his tongue cut out for good measure.

This <deleted> is everything Thailand doesn't want to be in the future, he's the archetypical dodgy, mouthy, unintelligent, deceptive politician we're trying to discourage. He serves to be a songteaw driver, no more.

Well said. I perfectly agree! The opposition is continously sitting on the fence and doing nothing other than blaming the government and making troubles. They want to change back to the old constitution, forgetting that the one in use was voted for by a majority of the people. This guy is so blatantly stupid.

[BangkokJazz]

"The term "get rid of" is a codeword for killing,"

As my Skool teacher once told me... "Could do better"

it comes all to the thai law sistem failure,in australia taksin be charge with treesen start terrorisem in the country ,thered leaders be all in jail for conspirecy with a criminal, the red october criminals be in for life. but that thailand we love criminals

Arrrrr matey. Shiver me timbers! I love when we speak pirate on TV. The government has taken a very measured response to this buffoon and others like him, and they are criticized for being fence sitters. If they strike back, they are criticized for being overly aggressive, and picking a fight.

I think the middle road is best, and they seem to agree.

Edited December 24, 2009 by BangkokJazz

[HakimKlunker]

After the forum now is going to solve the major political issues of a country that is not THEIRS:

Are there plans for making T'land a colony, and if yes: under custody of which nation?

Will this not impose international conflicts, if - say - Ghana takes over: This would lead to border conflicts with Cambodia transfered to other continents. (not sure on which side of the borders in question)

Would it not be better to stage another oil or terrorism crisis and let those take charge (or just - charge) who have most experience with such operations?

Merry Christmas, everyone

[markokang]

What took them so long? He should have been offed years ago.

Too right! Thaksin "offed" Somchai, so it only seems fit that he goes the same way!

[richieudon]

Genius!!

[sedeflonga]

Why would anyone want to kill Thaksin?

Isn't he the new Thai-Reality Show Star?

Edited December 24, 2009 by sedeflonga

[DocHolliday]

Why would anyone want to kill Thaksin?

Isn't he the new Thai-Reality Show Star?

you are very correct...

[meelousee]

1Get rid of the trash :D

2Get rid of the corruption

3Get rid of hate

4Get rid of those awful Frakenstine shoes

5Get rid of (someones name)

Ok there is 5 Get Rid Of's and none of them mean the same thing

Only one means to kill or dispose of with prejudicial murder; number 5

well maybe number 4 too.

[thaibkk]

why don't they catch him, bring him to pattaya and deal with him as he was a falang businessman with a problem with a local (maffia/mobster)

they would call it: the flying taksin

and call it a suicide

works well for farang

[Brewsta]

"The term "get rid of" is a codeword for killing,"

As my Skool teacher once told me... "Could do better"

And who says that every day in Thailand ain't Xmas?

Playground political pretentious puce prose, punctuated purposely by balacious <deleted> and anal asinine commentary,comrades.

Rock on 2010 for more of this penetrative prose leading langourously to ........... yawn!

Why do we repeat this drivel as this 'report' is completely predictable, deniable and so relevant to the huge issues of, for e.g.the current Global Warming NOT happening in the UK as we speak

Nappy Hoel and please bring on the new Decade !!

Stay safe and smiling All,

Brewsta

[alstaxi]

It is not a secret plan to get rid of Tacky, everyone knows about it.

[ozzieovaseas]

Why would anyone want to kill Thaksin?

Isn't he the new Thai-Reality Show Star?

well he must either have a few fans or foes judging by the 1750 or so readers on this topic now

[Sigi]

After the forum now is going to solve the major political issues of a country that is not THEIRS:

Are there plans for making T'land a colony, and if yes: under custody of which nation?

Will this not impose international conflicts, if - say - Ghana takes over: This would lead to border conflicts with Cambodia transfered to other continents. (not sure on which side of the borders in question)

Would it not be better to stage another oil or terrorism crisis and let those take charge (or just - charge) who have most experience with such operations?

Merry Christmas, everyone

"Aren’t you glad Thailand was never colonized, Sompong?"

"For the most part, I would say yes. Then again, knowing the nature of Thais as I do, had we been colonized I am certain that the colonizers would have ended up being far more exploited than us."

Quote from the book "At the Bamboo Bar" by Morgan McFinn

[leoleoleo]

Jutaporn is he just a pawn for the king pawn? He should remember that the prawn family eat their own, and if his patry needs $ he and his crooks (cooks) should vist a pawnshop. Don't give that old pawn the people's money it will only start to breed more little empty shells.

[Mamboking]

Guys, just relax. Let's those gangsters kill each other. It's not our business.

[Just1Voice]

Someone should 'take out' Jatuporn. No really, in Thaksin's day a guy like this would have had multiple multi-million baht law suits slapped on him for libel, and would have pipped down by now. Yeah, let the whole thing go to court, when he's failed to convince us all that 'get rid of' (probably the word 'ting' in Thai) does not mean kill someone, he should be fined for contempt of court and parliament, perhaps stripped of his MP status, better still banished to Dubai, and have his tongue cut out for good measure.

This <deleted> is everything Thailand doesn't want to be in the future, he's the archetypical dodgy, mouthy, unintelligent, deceptive politician we're trying to discourage. He serves to be a songteaw driver, no more.

Well said. I perfectly agree! The opposition is continously sitting on the fence and doing nothing other than blaming the government and making troubles. They want to change back to the old constitution, forgetting that the one in use was voted for by a majority of the people. This guy is so blatantly stupid.

Mitt....you might want to do a little research on this before you make comments.

1) The military tore up the 1997 "People's Constitution" and wrote a new one, which completely absolved them from their criminal acts.

2) They gave the people of Thailand 2 choices: 1) Vote for this one; 2) remain under martial law.

3) At the time of the vote, SIXTY PERCENT (60%) of the country WAS under martial law and not allowed to vote, which left only FORTY PERCENT (40%) of voters eligible, and even then it was passed by the BAREST of margins.

So, this constitution, aside from being illegal to begin with, was NOT voted on by the "majority", but by a minority, and even then it almost didn't make it.

Edited December 24, 2009 by Just1Voice

[Brewsta]

Why would anyone want to kill Thaksin?

Isn't he the new Thai-Reality Show Star?

well he must either have a few fans or foes judging by the 1750 or so readers on this topic now

....or maybe just maybe, many of us are enjoying the revised Story of Christmas.......Laugh On, ^Santa

KhunT AKA FooJitive Number1 to be 'crossed off' - how sad and seasonal.

[Publicus]

Someone should 'take out' Jatuporn. No really, in Thaksin's day a guy like this would have had multiple multi-million baht law suits slapped on him for libel, and would have pipped down by now. Yeah, let the whole thing go to court, when he's failed to convince us all that 'get rid of' (probably the word 'ting' in Thai) does not mean kill someone, he should be fined for contempt of court and parliament, perhaps stripped of his MP status, better still banished to Dubai, and have his tongue cut out for good measure.

This <deleted> is everything Thailand doesn't want to be in the future, he's the archetypical dodgy, mouthy, unintelligent, deceptive politician we're trying to discourage. He serves to be a songteaw driver, no more.

Exactly. This guy is a classic Thai public figure, the sorry product of Thai culture, society, civilization since 1932. At the better end is Abhisit but that's as good as it gets for leadership here. No Su Kyi, no Mandella no Sadat, no one.  

Just more of the same ad infinitum, ad neausium. 

[Jonathanpattaya]

The Thaksin bashers will have a field day with this one.

However, it sounds like paranoid nonsense to me.