Face Lift

[marcia]

Sorry, the 1,845 is baht or around $45 USD. And yes, I think all the doctors require the the tests. My consultation was on Monday afternoon and surgery was scheduled for 10AM the next morning. I had to be at the hospital at 8:30 AM. This schedule was pre-arranged before I arrived. However, although I knew the surgery was going to be the next day, it wasn't until my consult that I knew the time. Also as an FYI, there was hardly any pain with this procedure, controlled if I felt some discomfort with Tylenol. I found that surprising.

Marcia

[Weedhopper]

Sorry, the 1,845 is baht or around $45 USD. And yes, I think all the doctors require the the tests. My consultation was on Monday afternoon and surgery was scheduled for 10AM the next morning. I had to be at the hospital at 8:30 AM. This schedule was pre-arranged before I arrived. However, although I knew the surgery was going to be the next day, it wasn't until my consult that I knew the time.  Also as an FYI, there was hardly any pain with this procedure, controlled if I felt some discomfort with Tylenol. I found that surprising.

Marcia

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Hi Marcia, I didn't know the surgery would be done under local anesthesia. I thought that a person would be put to sleep,general. Or do i have the two confused? If you were awake for all this, they had to numb you up a heck of a lot. Did you have a choice of anesthesia?Actually how long did the procedire last?Thanks for the info.

[zzdocxx]

Hi everyone,

I am still gathering information on plastic surgery for my upcoming trip.

A friend suggested Yanhee Hospital in Bangkok, here is a link to their website:

http://www.yanhee.net/Others/contactus.html

I emailed them and received a prompt reply. I then emailed a few photos and got another reply with a suggested surgeon, a list of other plastic surgeons at Yanhee, and the following price information which was based on the photos I sent and some suggested procedures:

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Dr. Thawatchai Boonphadthanapong

Board of Plastic Surgery

I can recommend Dr. Thawatchai you can have the consultation with him and if you find him not to your expectation you can always see Dr. Pramote, Dr. Greechart or Dr. Sukit.

 

Cost of the above surgeries are:

Mid face lift 2,000 US$ 2 nights stay in the hospital

Neck lift 1,200 US$ 1 nights stay in the hospital

Chin liposuction 500 US$ an out patient case

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We have 11 cosmetic plastic surgeon working full time at the hospital, you can consult and select the following are their names:

Dr. Greechart Pornsinsirirak

Dr. Sukit  Worathamrong

Dr. Juta Jansi

Dr. Pitch Paiboonkasemsuthi

Dr. Wichian Wongwangsri

Dr. Virat Osathalert

Dr. Thawatchai Boonpadhanapong

Dr. Vittawat Angkatawanich

Dr. Pramote Manurangsee

Dr. Sanit Pongkapankai 

Our initial consultation is free of charge.

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I also emailed APEX and got a quick reply that they would be happy to schedule me for a consultation. My plan is to just gather information on this first trip, hopefully enough to decide what to do. But I am cautious by nature especially when it comes to my face!

Another question: I am planning to stay near Bumrungrad. Can anyone give me an idea where Yanhee is located? Their website has a map but being unfamiliar with the city I am not clear where it is.

Thanks again everyone, looking forward to your replies!

Edited July 28, 2005 by zzdocxx

[zzdocxx]

Just wanted to bring up this thread again. I think the tekkies call this

"BUMP" (Bring Up My Post).

Hope that's OK, thanks.

[twix38]

Just wanted to bring up this thread again.  I think the tekkies call this

"BUMP" (Bring Up My Post).

Hope that's OK, thanks.

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That's great and thanks for doing the BUMP on my post.

I am off to Thailand in October and am going to look into surgical and non-surgical options with info from here to help guide me.

Is there a difference in booking Apex at Bangkok or Pattaya or is it the same Doctor who moves between the 2? Anyone had good/bad or different/better experiences at either place?

[snoophound]

Botox injections may be ok if thats all you want.

Don't have a photo scanned at present so will try to sort that out.

It is for my laughter lines that I mainly want correction. The rest could look better, but willing to just get eye wrinkles done for now.

Do you have any idea of the choices available? I will be in Thailand in a couple of months and would like to arrange to start the process off and get a consultation

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[lakshmi]

did u say u did not have a good experience with thermage or was it some other laser u had on your eyes

what was not top quality

was it her or the facility?

and what was not what u expected

how long did the results last?

are there books on thermage for the eyes??

any warnings?

THANKS SO MUCH!!

lakshmi

If I were you I'd buy some books on the subject first. You can't rely on the Internet for solid, unbiased medical information. Books are at least reviewed by a specialist in the field before publication. Try to get a book that isn't written by someone trying to drum up business for himself or promote a new technique. The books will help you understand the whole procedure, guide you in what questions to ask, and outline the risks.

When I had surgery on my eyes, the doctor didn't tell me about any of the things (mostly relatively minor) that can go wrong. Also, when I asked the requisite question, "How many of these operations have you done before?" she answered, "Oh, lots!" Not exactly specific. So you need to understand the procedure and have all your questions ready before you see the doc.

From things I've read, there are different types of facelifts and some are fairly complex, so you aren't likely to get a ballpark figure for the costs on the Internet. Try and find the Daily Telegraph article (a few weeks ago) about Toya Wilcox's facelift. That was an eye-opener.

Also, check on the recovery procedure. I doubt you can jet into Bangkok, have the facelift, hit the bars for a few nights and fly back home again! You will have to avoid aspirin and alcohol before and after. I had to be extremely careful about sudden movement and about how I slept (no rolling around or sleeping on stomach or side) for 3-4 days. With facelifts, nerves under the skin are severed and there might be numbness for a period. There would probably be more than one follow-up visit.

My laser surgery cost $750 at Bumrungrad Hospital in Bangkok. A facelift would be more.

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[China105]

You can look at the hospital websites and check out prices online.  They may go into details about recovery times etc. 

There are companies running trips where you come to Thailand, go into hospital the next day, stay overnight, then spend about 10 days or so in a nice hotel recuperating.  This is usually enough from what I can understand. 

BNH and Samitivej are also worth considering.

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Donna,

Do you have names of highly recommended plastic surgeons at Samitivej Hospital? Someone said Professor Montri was outstanding and practices out of that same hospital. with a long waiting list, however, even he is hard to find.. I seem to spend so much time researching for the right doctor who practoces out of different facilities because Bumrungrad is a 5 star facility, but other facility have some of the same plastic surgeons rotating from one facility to another....the difference is the price if it is done out of Bumrungrad.....Dr. Amoorn Poomee is also supposed to be excellant, he is the chief of ps at bumrungrad...I need more info.. and before and after photos..with doctoral credentials..before I can ake up my mind. Dr. Preecha is also supposed to be excellant. He used to work out of Bumrungrad, however, he set up his own clinic at BNH (Bangkok Nursing Hospital). He performed some incredidable delicate surgeries on men and women...His before and after photos are good...any suggestions?

[xenjya]

I live in the middle east and my sister in OZ. My sister and i have after much research have decided on Dr Poomme at the bumrungrad hospital. She is having upper and lower eyelift and full face lift and myself breast lift. I went last year and visited the hospital and it is really very professional and has the highest of standards. I was alone and decided without any doctor research to have an upper eye lift. I was very very pleased with the work and the time it took to have the procedure. I basically walked in off the street at 2.30pm and was scheduled for 4pm the next day. I did no researh on the particular doctor as it was very very spuir of the moment. The staff were incredible. the hygene standards impeccable and the after care superb. they called me in my hotel to ensure i was well and ok as they knew i travelled alone. They wheeled me down to the taxi rank and physically put me in the cab. The hospital was full of people from all nationalities.

the only thing i faulted which very well may have been due to my own listening skills was, i did not realise i was having a local and not general. This i am sure from my own excitiement, i overlooked. I would NEVER have my eye lids done this way again. I could smell it all and when i did ask what the smell was the dr kindly said (it is only ur flesh burning)

My doctor in australia removed my stiches as i had to return urgenly after the 3rd day due to family reasons. He said it was a great job.

My sister and i are both looking forward to having another great service in January.

please email me for any pictures us may like before and after.

[xenjya]

i also had Dr. Sorawuth Chu-Ongsakul and was well pleased with my eye lip at 30.000bht

if u require any info feel free to email me.

[secrets]

I am a 44 year old English guy and seek personal advice on getting a facelift in Thailand.

My main concern is safety and getting a good job done, followed a long way behind by price.

Is it better (safer and better guaranteed results) to have it done in UK or Thailand?

Can anyone (preferably from personal experience) recommend the best Hospital and particularly the actual Surgeon to do the facelift in Thailand?

What is approximate price?

Of course I would rather pay whatever price, than have it go wrong.

Any other information would be most helpfull, such as a guide to procedures, consultation process and how to takle this whole issue before I go under the knife.

Thanks

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I don't know what your face is like, but if there is not severe skin drooping then some of the new non-surgical alternatives (thermage, aptos threads) might do the trick, at least for 5-10 more years by which time who knows what else will be around. Thermage stimulates collagen production to firm up the face. Aptos threads are inserted to gently pull up sagging areas.

For thermage, aptos threads etc it is outpatient and Dr. Nantapat Supapannachart is best, she has her own group of clinics called Apex and is also on staff at Bumrungrad.

If actual cutting is required, then of course its inpatient.. What I suggest is that you email both Bumrungrad and Samitivej Hospitals with a scanned photo of your face and ask what their plastic surgeons think would be the best options and the price. You may want to price shop a bit (these 2 hospitals are very good, but at the top of the price scale for Thailand) but at least you'll know specifically what procedures to price-shop for.

i personally would avoid Thermage, its not long lasting and really a waste of money.

APTOS THREADS is another one to avoid, lots of problems with the threads popping out .

ISOLOGEN is another to avoid, their claims are not born out.

nothing takes the place of real surgery.

i had lower face lift in Tunis but i,m far from happy so am looking at the YANHEE HOSPITAL in Bangkok. i know of 2 delighted patients who went there.

[Queenie]

I know now that there is a procedure call " Thermage " for non-invasive face lift , no surgery need, can be done in 1 hour. check out www.thermage.com

[falco]

Anybody have any personal experiences to relate with regard Yanhee hospital.

[Jintana]

Anybody have any personal experiences to relate with regard Yanhee hospital.

HI,

I know that you asked about a hospital and not a surgeon, yet, I can't encourage you enough to consider your surgeon FIRST. He/she will advise you of the best hospital to meet your special needs. I understand that Yanhee is the least expensive in Thailand. If an emergency arose, would you be really comfortable if a relative of yours were in this hospital? If not, then I would suggest that it probably wouldn't be your first choice for yourself either. If so, then that is a different issue all together. I'm pasting below an item I recently wrote for another. I hope that you find it of value.

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You've received a number of replies in a relatively short amount of time.

I'm writing as one who had a major facelift with Dr. Witoon Wisutheriwong about nine years ago, I was 55 at the time. He is reputed to be one of the best Cosmetic Surgeons in Thailand and I would fully agree. Not only is he a gifted and talented surgeon, he is a very special human being who devotes a considerable amount of time to volunteer efforts. Check out his website: www.surgery-thailand.com for more information. You will also find a number of patient recommendations there and elsewhere on the internet. He was the Chief of Plastic Surgery at Chiang Mai University for 25 years and has offices both in Bangkok and Chiang Mai. Dr. Witoon has operating privileges at several hospitals so I wouldn't give that another thought and let him make the decision that he deems best for your procedure.

Clinic Soi 1

220/2-3 Sukhumwit Soi 1

Bangkok 10110

Thailand

Tel : (66) (2) 255 5525 & 251 2066 - 7

Fax : (66) (2) 252 7975

E-mail: [email protected]

Dr. Preecha is another with an excellent reputation although he is primarily known for transgender surgery, he also performs facelifts and I have met several who were happy with his work: www.pai.co.th

I most definitely encourage you to consult with a couple of physicans in order to assure yourself that you are selecting the best professional possible to meet your needs. You can also make an appointment for a consultation at Bumrungrad Hospital. So here are three options with which you can begin. I provide options because I think having them gives us more control over our lives. Personally, I don't have to look any futher than Dr. Witoon. If you were a friend or family member, I would send you to no one else. He is always the first whenever I am asked for a referral, and I will see him again for another facelift at the earliest opportunity.

Wishing you the very best!

[secrets]

I know now that there is a procedure call " Thermage " for non-invasive face lift , no surgery need, can be done in 1 hour. check out www.thermage.com

i can assure you that thermage is appalling,its a complete waste of money,results are very short lived,and it has been known to cause permanent skin damage.

[Jintana]

I know now that there is a procedure call " Thermage " for non-invasive face lift , no surgery need, can be done in 1 hour. check out www.thermage.com

i can assure you that thermage is appalling,its a complete waste of money,results are very short lived,and it has been known to cause permanent skin damage.

I totally concur with the above! Dr. Nantapat (APEX) did the procedure.

I elected Thermage because it had no down time. The results were definitely very short-lived and it was definitely expensive for an hour of her time. The claims are that the maximum results will manifest in six months and will last up to two years. In my case, in six months, the initial results were already on the downslide. Dr. Nantapat also used a pigment laser under my eyes and at this point in time, has appeared to leave me with permanent unsightly pigment damage. I spent nearly a year (and a great deal of money) in trying to correct the damage to little avail. When I first approached Dr. Nantapat about the obvious scarring, her only response was that I required additional treatments and that was the state of the art. She bore no responsibility. Other laser surgeons have agreed that she was much too aggressive. She also allows her assistants to perform laser surgery on the unsuspecting patient, although I don't know how much more damage they could cause than she already has. As I waited to see her the very last time, another patient told me that she had performed threading for him and he was most unhappy with the results.

For an excellent laser surgeon:

Dr. Niwat Polikorn, KASEMRAD HOSPITAL Aesthetics Center, 02910-1600-, Ext 1410-1

[secrets]

I know now that there is a procedure call " Thermage " for non-invasive face lift , no surgery need, can be done in 1 hour. check out www.thermage.com

i can assure you that thermage is appalling,its a complete waste of money,results are very short lived,and it has been known to cause permanent skin damage.

I totally concur with the above! Dr. Nantapat (APEX) did the procedure.

I elected Thermage because it had no down time. The results were definitely very short-lived and it was definitely expensive for an hour of her time. The claims are that the maximum results will manifest in six months and will last up to two years. In my case, in six months, the initial results were already on the downslide. Dr. Nantapat also used a pigment laser under my eyes and at this point in time, has appeared to leave me with permanent unsightly pigment damage. I spent nearly a year (and a great deal of money) in trying to correct the damage to little avail. When I first approached Dr. Nantapat about the obvious scarring, her only response was that I required additional treatments and that was the state of the art. She bore no responsibility. Other laser surgeons have agreed that she was much too aggressive. She also allows her assistants to perform laser surgery on the unsuspecting patient, although I don't know how much more damage they could cause than she already has. As I waited to see her the very last time, another patient told me that she had performed threading for him and he was most unhappy with the results.

For an excellent laser surgeon:

Dr. Niwat Polikorn, KASEMRAD HOSPITAL Aesthetics Center, 02910-1600-, Ext 1410-1

Jintana, i,m so sorry to read of your experience,sadly you are one of many.

the same goes with'threading'its a dreadful precedure and often the threads poke out and leave one hel_l of a mess.

whenever i see a doctor advertising threadlifts,its immediatly a no no for me.

i,m actually now going to Costa Rica for plastic surgery.....some great doctors there.!

[Jintana]

I know now that there is a procedure call " Thermage " for non-invasive face lift , no surgery need, can be done in 1 hour. check out www.thermage.com

i can assure you that thermage is appalling,its a complete waste of money,results are very short lived,and it has been known to cause permanent skin damage.

I totally concur with the above! Dr. Nantapat (APEX) did the procedure.

I elected Thermage because it had no down time. The results were definitely very short-lived and it was definitely expensive for an hour of her time. The claims are that the maximum results will manifest in six months and will last up to two years. In my case, in six months, the initial results were already on the downslide. Dr. Nantapat also used a pigment laser under my eyes and at this point in time, has appeared to leave me with permanent unsightly pigment damage. I spent nearly a year (and a great deal of money) in trying to correct the damage to little avail. When I first approached Dr. Nantapat about the obvious scarring, her only response was that I required additional treatments and that was the state of the art. She bore no responsibility. Other laser surgeons have agreed that she was much too aggressive. She also allows her assistants to perform laser surgery on the unsuspecting patient, although I don't know how much more damage they could cause than she already has. As I waited to see her the very last time, another patient told me that she had performed threading for him and he was most unhappy with the results.

For an excellent laser surgeon:

Dr. Niwat Polikorn, KASEMRAD HOSPITAL Aesthetics Center, 02910-1600-, Ext 1410-1

Jintana, i,m so sorry to read of your experience,sadly you are one of many.

the same goes with'threading'its a dreadful precedure and often the threads poke out and leave one hel_l of a mess.

whenever i see a doctor advertising threadlifts,its immediatly a no no for me.

i,m actually now going to Costa Rica for plastic surgery.....some great doctors there.!

Hi,

Thank you for your heartfelt reply.

This is one of the best ways we can share the message re: physicians/surgeons in Thailand who are terrific and those who are definitely not!! I've discovered in this country that the culture is "It is better for many patients to suffer from a doctor's negligence than for a single doctor to lose face." Unfortunate and true!!!! Good luck in Costa Rica. Although, I encourage you that all is not lost here and Dr. Witoon is an excellent physician.

[bachismo]

I'm interested in getting eye lift surgery and not the whole facelift. Can anyone recommend a good doctor with contact info, as I will be in BKK soon, but only for a short time. Also, if you have an idea of how much it will cost that would be great.

[luvleen]

do any of you happen to know if there's any treatments here in

Thailand's leading cosmetic hospital which can treat leg scars

which was being left by razor cuts or ingrown hairs?

what about dimples implants..and getting rid of double chin?? biggrin.gif

I'm interested in these 3 treatments. Any recommendations?

I would like to go for whitening too, if possible.

I plan to go over in June.

[Sheryl]

do any of you happen to know if there's any treatments here in

Thailand's leading cosmetic hospital which can treat leg scars

which was being left by razor cuts or ingrown hairs?

what about dimples implants..and getting rid of double chin?? biggrin.gif

I'm interested in these 3 treatments. Any recommendations?

I would like to go for whitening too, if possible.

I plan to go over in June.

1. Please do not make multiple identical posts, it clutters up the board.

2. Scars can be treated by laser, results depends on the type and depth of the scars. Any number of derm clinics as well as all the major hospitals have doctors trained in this. Personally I go to Romrawin.

3. "Double chin" would need liposuction. Again, all the major hospitals have doctors trained in it. These will not be the same as the doctors who do laser scar removal.

4. I do not know what you mean by "dimples" implants" ???

I suggest you review doctor qualifications on the Bumrungrad hospital website to find a dermatologost specializing in laser scar remobval and a plastic surgeon specializing in lipo. Yopu can also go the Romrawin website. It is an outpatient clinic but they also do liposuction using I thibnk Piyavate Hospital.

[jackoneilone]

amazing how little people know, how little they are prepared, how little homework they do, how greatly misinformed they are, how much they believe marketing hype and all this for potentially life threatening cosmetic surgeries!

sigh

[bumrungrad]

do any of you happen to know if there's any treatments here in

Thailand's leading cosmetic hospital which can treat leg scars

which was being left by razor cuts or ingrown hairs?

what about dimples implants..and getting rid of double chin?? biggrin.gif

I'm interested in these 3 treatments. Any recommendations?

I would like to go for whitening too, if possible.

I plan to go over in June.

1. Please do not make multiple identical posts, it clutters up the board.

2. Scars can be treated by laser, results depends on the type and depth of the scars. Any number of derm clinics as well as all the major hospitals have doctors trained in this. Personally I go to Romrawin.

3. "Double chin" would need liposuction. Again, all the major hospitals have doctors trained in it. These will not be the same as the doctors who do laser scar removal.

4. I do not know what you mean by "dimples" implants" ???

I suggest you review doctor qualifications on the Bumrungrad hospital website to find a dermatologost specializing in laser scar remobval and a plastic surgeon specializing in lipo. Yopu can also go the Romrawin website. It is an outpatient clinic but they also do liposuction using I thibnk Piyavate Hospital.

Hello Luvleen,

As Sheryl mentioned, except for the dimples, the types of things you are looking for are quite common here in Thailand. The dimples would need to be discussed with a surgeon.

For our hospital, there are a few things you can do:

For all Inquiries: http://www.bumrungrad.com/overseas-medical...it/inquiry.aspx

Skin Laser Center (Scars): http://www.bumrungrad.com/overseas-medical...ser-center.aspx

General Plastic Surgery: http://www.bumrungrad.com/overseas-medical...tic-center.aspx

Liposuction: http://www.bumrungrad.com/overseas-medical...ction-type.aspx

Facelift: http://www.bumrungrad.com/overseas-medical...-lift-type.aspx

And you can research our doctors at:

Find a Doctor: http://www.bumrungrad.com/overseas-medical...r-a-doctor.aspx

If you have any other questions about the hospital, you can PM me. However, for more detailed information about the procedures and any pricing, please contact us through the Inquiry page above.

Best regards,

Scott @ Bumrungrad