Jingthing Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) OK, I very burned out on these problems for a few days so don't think it's all fixed. I want to do all I can myself and fix all I can myself before I get pro help to fix what I can't fix. I was able to get a Windows 7 driver for my graphics card, and so far that seems to have greatly improved the problem I had before with slingbox streaming quality, so slingbox help was actually correct about that. OK, now for a very stupid question. As I said before -- two Kingston SDHC cards are now unusable, the system asked me to reformat, and then when I tried it asked for drivers, I can't find drivers for them. Previously they were readable and writable on the system. Now the cards are also not seen by my DVD player either. OK, I found a SDHC reformatting application and downloaded it. It wouldn't format because it said the cards were write protected. I then started playing around with the lock/unlock physical switch on the two cards I have. It didn't help. That was silly to try anyway because I had never locked them in the first place. It's also a mystery why they lost the date in the first place, they aren't readable or writable and need reformatting. I even wonder if my DVD player has been corrupted somehow. Anyway, here is the very stupid question. On the Kingston SDHC cards, which side is locked and which is unlocked on the switch. On the cards, one side says locked and then there is a triangle kind of icon which is thick on the locked word side, and thin on the other side. So the side with the word locked is locked, correct? I just forget where I started playing with them and now aren't sure. Other than the driver issues, I suspect the mini card reader is broken. Also note, these were reading and writing fine on my new system for awhile before the cards got messed up. Its really strange. Also note that I had an external drive that had worked before but on the new system didn't read any data and need a reformat. I am of course flummoxed. What driver should I look for for the USB connection type thingies for these items? I also will probably buy a new SDHC reader to test that out, as those are rather cheap. However, I afraid if my system is corrupting storage devices, that I will end up buying a bunch of cards and breaking them testing different theories. (Yes I have checked for viruses and run a tool.) Still no speakers, and no CD player read/write, one thing at a time ... Edited March 22, 2010 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 Jingthing, what motherboard and processor do you have? I don't hear you commenting on any overall slowness, so most likely you don't need to upgrade, but if your mobo/processor are *ancient* you might get different advice.Do you have a Windows 7 DVD? If so, what type? OEM? Upgrade? Full? Is it a legitimate version or pirate? Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 7? (right-click on Computer on the Start Menu and choose Properties) Some older hardware is not compatible with 64-bit Windows. I have a legit Win 7 Home Premium 32 bit. Its a SE Asia OEM, must be activated in SE Asia. The processing speed for everything that is working is very good for me. I understand a newer MB and newer memory may double that, but really the speed is plenty for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) With brings up another issue. I bought a new W7. Its OEM SE Asia, supposed to be in new machines only. Will Windows allow me to reinstall it in a new computer? Is it based on the hard drive or some kind of machine code outside the hard drive? If I do get a new computer built, I reckon it would be good to do a fresh W7 install but I wouldn't want to lose the validity of the windows key. If you already activated Windows 7 OEM, it is forever locked to the machine it was activated on. Unlike retail, an OEM license cannot be transferred to a different PC. You'll have to call Microsoft customer support to request a new product key. Machine or hard drive? If I bought a new hard drive and used the same machine, would the key still work? If I called MS and told them I wanted to install it in a totally new machine at a later date, would they allow that? I had understood it was for one machine at a time only, not that you couldn't install it in a new machine (and stop using the old one). If I moved this HD with W7 to a new machine, it wouldn't work with my current key? Edited March 22, 2010 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 I should say it is a three year old SATA motherboard, should I replace the motherboard, would that help? Replacing the motherboard is like building a new system; not a viable option IMO. Besides, you don't need the latest and greatest hardware to run Windows 7. Computers built as far back as 2004/2005 can handle Windows 7 easily (provided you have 2GB memory) and a fairly decent graphics card (Geforce 6xxx or better for Aero). Use the following utilities to obtain your system specs and list them here... It'll make it easier for people to help you. Freeware: CPU-Z - Gathers info about processor, motherboard, ram... GPU-Z - Gathers info about your video card. Shareware: Everest - A system diagnostics and information tool. Thanks for those. I fixed the graphics card driver, my one success so far. The bios is from 2006. Would updating it help my problems? I am unclear on how to update BIOS. 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Jingthing Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) True confessions. There was a user action that may or may not be related to my problem with the SDHC cards. This happened AFTER my external hard disk showed no data and I had to reformat (as opposed to the cards). I reformatted my external hard disk with FAT32 and put some video files there. Then I tested to see whether my DVD player (separate from my PC) hooked to a tv would read the hard drive (which of course has an external power supply). It did not. That may have been stupid but a friend told me it might work. Anyway, AFTER that I was able to play video on my DVD player with USB input/tv with an SDHC card. Then that card showed as empty/not readable/not writable/not formatable on the PC (and now not working on the DVD/tv). A second card also not working at all, on the DVD/tv or USB on the PC. It's weird, huh? I only mentioned it because I wonder if DVD player was damaged by my attempt to try the hard drive on it. Edited March 22, 2010 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 If I bought a new hard drive and used the same machine, would the key still work?If I moved this HD with W7 to a new machine, it wouldn't work with my current key? Swapping hard drives (on the same machine) shouldn't be a problem, the worse that can happen is you'll need to re-activate. On the other hand, moving the HDD with an activated copy of Windows to a new machine is no different from changing the CPU / motherboard and will invalidate the OEM product key. If I called MS and told them I wanted to install it in a totally new machine at a later date, would they allow that? I had understood it was for one machine at a time only, not that you couldn't install it in a new machine (and stop using the old one). I suppose you could persuade MS into issuing you a new product key by telling them you have a busted motherboard; this seems to work most of the time. Both OEM and Retail copies of Windows can be activated infinitely, one key to one machine at any given time. You can activate over the internet up to five times; subsequent activations must be completed over the phone. The main difference between OEM and Retail keys is, OEM is locked to a single computer and will not activate on another machine. Whereas the boxed product or retail license is less restrictive and can be transferred from one computer to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 The bios is from 2006. Would updating it help my problems? I am unclear on how to update BIOS. Difficult to say... If compatibility issues exist and are severe enough to cause problems, one way to address these issues is by flashing the BIOS. Updating your computer's BIOS to the latest release is a good idea, but be sure to read the notes accompanying the update. This will help you decide whether or not it's worth flashing to a specific version. Check your motherboard manufacturer website for more information. If you're not familiar with the update procedure, I highly recommend you find someone who is and get them to do it for you. Better to be safe than sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 If I bought a new hard drive and used the same machine, would the key still work?If I moved this HD with W7 to a new machine, it wouldn't work with my current key? Swapping hard drives (on the same machine) shouldn't be a problem, the worse that can happen is you'll need to re-activate. On the other hand, moving the HDD with an activated copy of Windows to a new machine is no different from changing the CPU / motherboard and will invalidate the OEM product key. If I called MS and told them I wanted to install it in a totally new machine at a later date, would they allow that? I had understood it was for one machine at a time only, not that you couldn't install it in a new machine (and stop using the old one). I suppose you could persuade MS into issuing you a new product key by telling them you have a busted motherboard; this seems to work most of the time. Both OEM and Retail copies of Windows can be activated infinitely, one key to one machine at any given time. You can activate over the internet up to five times; subsequent activations must be completed over the phone. The main difference between OEM and Retail keys is, OEM is locked to a single computer and will not activate on another machine. Whereas the boxed product or retail license is less restrictive and can be transferred from one computer to another. So the machine ID is in the motherboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 The bios is from 2006. Would updating it help my problems? I am unclear on how to update BIOS. Difficult to say... If compatibility issues exist and are severe enough to cause problems, one way to address these issues is by flashing the BIOS. Updating your computer's BIOS to the latest release is a good idea, but be sure to read the notes accompanying the update. This will help you decide whether or not it's worth flashing to a specific version. Check your motherboard manufacturer website for more information. If you're not familiar with the update procedure, I highly recommend you find someone who is and get them to do it for you. Better to be safe than sorry... Thanks. I agree, probably too risky for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 (edited) OK, an update on the USB SDHC issue. I had another mini reader around that has always worked before. I stuck it into the computer and got the usual successful message (LOADING DEVICE DRIVERS). BTW, on the failed reader, that message wasn't happening anymore. This time, the drivers NEVER loaded, and the machine never recognized the SDHC cards at all, even to attempt to format them (which probably wouldn't have worked anyway). So it seems something is going on with the USB ports. Any ideas how to fix it? Of course this wasn't a pure test as the cards tested on the new reader were the same ones not working on the old reader. Another question, these drivers it is trying to load when sticking in USB card reader, where are they coming from? The machine, the reader, or the card? Edited March 23, 2010 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 So the machine ID is in the motherboard? How Product Activation works in Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 The answer you seek is about half-way down the page... If you have the time, read through the entire article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmarinus Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Hello! I cant tell you what is wrong whit your pc but I and my freind have alot of problems and we go to a shop-dont remember the name,but you can have the number to the man who come home to me and fix it-and I have never had problems sins. I gave 300 baht for this,so it is very cheap,I think. 0861874892-I think he is the man who can fix it for you. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Hello!I cant tell you what is wrong whit your pc but I and my freind have alot of problems and we go to a shop-dont remember the name,but you can have the number to the man who come home to me and fix it-and I have never had problems sins. I gave 300 baht for this,so it is very cheap,I think. 0861874892-I think he is the man who can fix it for you. Brian What city is he in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 (edited) Just a semi ironic/semi serious thought -- anyone want to buy my nightmare? I just spent 7170 baht on authentic Win 7, new 500 gig hard drive, and new RAM. The motherboard is 3 years old (SATA) and has D processors, decent graphics card, and the non-functioning stuff you can read about on this thread. Would be glad to unload this dream for 7K baht, basically what I just spent on upgrade. The windows key is clean, not associated with any name. (In Jomtien.) Edited March 23, 2010 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacemunk Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 after searching the problem here is that there is no official win7 drivers for the Asus P5LD2 SE motherboard. You can actually call microsoft and get a new key by using the automated voice system , so u dont really have to sell ur windows 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 (edited) after searching the problem here is that there is no official win7 drivers for the Asus P5LD2 SE motherboard.You can actually call microsoft and get a new key by using the automated voice system , so u dont really have to sell ur windows 7. Could you give me a scenario for that attempt? For example, install new motherboard. Then what? Reinstall Win 7 and get an error message or leave the current hard drive as is, and wait for an error message that my computer has changed too much. Or get the new key BEFORE I made major changes to the machine? I really don't get it, thanks for any help. Edited March 23, 2010 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnS Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 (edited) Check if they did an update from XP to 7 or a new installation Sounds like they might have just taken the update option Im no expert though Edited March 23, 2010 by SnS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Check if they did an update from XP to 7 or a full installationSounds like they might have just taken the update option Im no expert though This was a fresh Win 7 install on a totally virgin new HD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacemunk Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 just ensure everything is plugged in before doing anything else. call microsoft and get a new key just give them the excuse that ur hard drive crashed along with ur motherboard so u bought new hardware , if u intend to talk to the customer service. if u dont need anything from ur hard drive and nothing is important in it , do a fresh install. once windows 7 is installed just have all ur driver cds ready. Graphic card driver motherboard driver and anything else which needs drivers , the rest of the drivers will be auto installed by windows 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 But I will probably use my current HD and Microsoft can see that. MB driver is different than BIOS, correct? So get the key before I start with the new hardware is what I think you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 (edited) Let this be a lesson to people. My pain, your lesson. I naively assumed/trusted the tech person would have warned me about lack of compatibility and told me I needed new hardware. Edited March 23, 2010 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacemunk Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 But I will probably use my current HD and Microsoft can see that. MB driver is different than BIOS, correct? So get the key before I start with the new hardware is what I think you are saying. MB drivers is in the cd/dvd which comes along with your motherboard and yes its totally diff from BIOS. Get the key b4 u start with the new hardware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 after searching the problem here is that there is no official win7 drivers for the Asus P5LD2 SE motherboard. This shouldn't be a problem. It is likely that Windows 7 will have proper driver support for the P5LD2 SE out of the box... Any missing chipset drivers will be offered through Automatic Updates. If not, Vista drivers should also work. This is from my own experience setting up Windows 7 on older computers. Your mileage may vary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 So it is not hopeless to use my computer with current MB? If not, how can I fix the other problems? No sound. No use of USB for SDHC. On the CD drive, I am still not sure if it was user error that busted it, would have to install a new one to test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 ^ Getting a new MB isn't going to do you much good and may even introduce more problems. Your current system is capable of handling Windows 7. It's just a matter of getting all the proper drivers installed. About your SDHC not working, I've been doing some reading and it looks to be a common problem for many folks. Do you know what brand/model the card reader is? No sound -- I will look into this later... ImgBurn (freeware) is my preferred cd/dvd writing application I use in Windows 7. Works like a charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 (edited) ^ Getting a new MB isn't going to do you much good and may even introduce more problems. Your current system is capable of handling Windows 7. It's just a matter of getting all the proper drivers installed.About your SDHC not working, I've been doing some reading and it looks to be a common problem for many folks. Do you know what brand/model the card reader is? No sound -- I will look into this later... ImgBurn (freeware) is my preferred cd/dvd writing application I use in Windows 7. Works like a charm. Yes, but what drivers do I need? I tried two different kinds of mini card readers. They both were working before on my old XP system. One was working before on my Win7 system and now doesn't. I asked this again, but when you stick the card in the USB slot and you see the message Loading Drivers, when it is working, WHERE are the drivers coming from for the USB card reading thing -- the card, the reader, or the machine? I also use imgburn for DVD burning. DVD read and burning is working. For CDs, the drive doesn't even recognize the existence of any CD I put in there, full, blank, different brands. I wonder if this thread will still be going a year from now, ha ha. Edited March 23, 2010 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I tried two different kinds of mini card readers. They both were working before on my old XP system. One was working before on my Win7 system and now doesn't. What is the brand name and/or model of the card readers? Need to have this bit of information in order to find compatible drivers. I asked this again, but when you stick the card in the USB slot and you see the message Loading Drivers, when it is working, WHERE are the drivers coming from for the USB card reading thing -- the card, the reader, or the machine? Did you install ANY third-party drivers or was everything configured automatically? Win7 has a vast device driver library which is stored locally on your hard drive in C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 (edited) Card readers? OK, I can't see any brand on either. One is an All in One style that accepts most types of cards and the other is SD only type of stick. Both are USB 2.0. The one that is a stick (the fresh one that I found), maybe it doesn't support SDHC (bigger memory cards)? The cards I have are both Kingston Type 4 SDHC cards (4 and 8 meg). When these have worked in the past you see a message saying Loading Drivers when you stick the readers in. Again, loading drivers from WHERE? The All in One always worked on XP and was working for a little while with Win 7 and then wasn't working. Well the in the All in One, the cards were showing up, but needed reformat, and then would not all reformat. The other one never gets passed Loading Drivers. Are you maybe suggesting I get a higher end reader? As far as my windows install I let a tech guy do it and trusted him (my mistake). I did mention my concern about graphics driver and watched him work on it and saw the message there was no compatible with my hardware from NVIDIA. Later I found a fit from NVIDIA. As far as other non-automatic drivers, I doubt it. On the other hand, aren't most things supposed to be plug and play? For example the CD/DVD drive, I don't think there are any drivers for it. When I check for drivers on things like sound on my Win 7 system, it scans, and returns the message working fine and drivers up to date. It even did this on my graphics driver before I found a fit, so like another poster said, those system messages are questionable. Edited March 23, 2010 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 BTW, have you checked for / installed any Windows updates so far? Configure Windows 7 to notify or receive important updates if you haven't already done so. Several important functionality and performance updates (like the one below) should be installed on your system. Who knows? Operating system updates may be just what the doctor ordered. On to sound issues... I couldn't find any AD1986A drivers for Windows 7, so either keep what's already on there or use the Vista drivers. Before you do the latter, download and install the Application Compatibility Update first. DVD read and burning is working. For CDs, the drive doesn't even recognize the existence of any CD I put in there, full, blank, different brands. I don't what to say about this one. Definitely a problem with the device, not Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Yes I have done all Windows 7 updates. I found a USB card reader drivers thing from Realtek (windows 7 support) and installed it. Didn't help at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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