Cheddar Cheese, Smokey Bacon, Good Sausages

[tropo]

Wisconsin is in fact home to most cheeses in France.

Home home to most cheeses in France? What does that mean?

No idea but I did google mcdonalds burgers and got 4380000 results.

Go figure.

France cheese = 16,200,000 hits

USA cheese = 16,200,000 hits

(quite a coincidence)

France sausage = 3,150,000 hits

USA sausage = 2,900,000 hits

French cheese = 3,920,000 hits

American cheese = 4,160,000 hits

French sausage = 5,550,000 hits

American sausage = 6,830,000 hits

So according to this new Google testing method, you'd have to declare France the winner considering they have about 1/6 the population of the USA.

Edited May 31, 2010 by tropo

[smokie36]

Wisconsin is in fact home to most cheeses in France.

Home home to most cheeses in France? What does that mean?

No idea but I did google mcdonalds burgers and got 4380000 results.

Go figure.

France cheese = 16,200,000 hits

USA cheese = 16,200,000 hits

(quite a coincidence)

France sausage = 3,150,000 hits

USA sausage = 2,900,000 hits

French cheese = 3,920,000 hits

American cheese = 4,160,000 hits

French sausage = 5,550,000 hits

American sausage = 6,830,000 hits

So according to this new Google testing method, you'd have to declare France the winner considering they have about 1/6 the population of the USA.

Thanks for your extensive research tropo and clearing up the great sausage and cheese mystery.

[syd barrett]

You can buy excellent extra strong Cheddar cheese in Friendship Supermarket, priced at 168 Baht.

Ive got some of this its the Mainland brand .. its ok and tastes fine with my toasted cheese sandwick maker but its a bit bitter on its own IMHO.

As everyone knows on this forum, I have been seeking quality sausage for a long time in Pattaya.

The best I have found is also sold at Friendship Supermarket but it rarely shows up in the fridge.

I don't know whether someone is beating me to it by buying it early doors or if the supply is spasmodic.

The best sausage sarny ive had is from the 18 coins of Soi Boukow certainly upto standard, i'll order some from this Western place thats been recommended and let you know.

Worst sausages are the British pork ones from the supermarket on the left handside as you head towards Jomtien ... avoid at all costs, i ate 1/4 and threw the pack away.

Thanks for the heads-up on the 18 coins sausage sandwiches. I'll check them out ASAP>

[Utterlyuseful]

the google hits approach is interesting for discussion, although obviously results can be skewed due to higher web penetration in some areas and better web page marketing.....

now to throw a different wrench into this, why doesn't some entrepreneur in Thailand come up with this

Mozzarella di bufala campana (PDO 1996) is a particular type of mozzarella, made from the milk of water buffalo raised in designated areas of Lazio and Campania; some consider it the best for flavour or quality. Unlike other mozzarellas, 50% of whose production derives from imported, and often semi-coagulated milk,^[7] it holds the official status of a protected designation of origin (PDO) under the European Union. It, not mozzarella made with pasteurized cow's milk, is an ingredient in Neapolitan pizza.

There is no need to pay me royalties either..."build it and they will eat"

[Utterlyuseful]

I should have googled more first....looks like someone is already doing it......has anyone tried this and where is it available locally....

Italian mountaineers cut the cheese in Thailand

BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 12px; COLOR: #444444; PADDING-TOP: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma">In our weekend lifestyle section, Peter Janssen goes on a mozzarella trail and discovers how buffalo in Thailand and Italy produce different milk.</H2>How does a former ski resort employee from the mountainous region of Trentino in northern Italy end up making mozzarella cheese in Thailand's Hua Hin beach resort?

"Just fate," said Max Mazzalai, the 42-year-old founder of Del Casaro Thailand Company, proud producer of mozzarella, ricotta, Italico, mascarpone and scamorza cheeses.

Eleven years ago Mazzalai visited Thailand's Samui island beach resort as a tourist.

"I came for a holiday but saw there was a lot of potential to make cheese because there were many Italian, French and German restaurants on the island," recalled Mazzalai.

In Trentino, Mazzalai had worked at ski resorts during the winter months and helped raising dairy cows and make cheeses in the summer months.

At least his cheese-making talents proved exportable to tropical Thailand, where mass tourism and a resulting explosion of Italian restaurants over the past two decades has created a domestic market for mozzarella, the main ingredient for pizza, and other cooking cheeses such as ricotta.

By December 1, 1997, after a quick trip home to buy equipment, Mazzalai was the first mozzarella maker of Samui.

In 2000, Mazzalai shifted his cheese factory to Hua Hin, another resort town, and brought in Eddy Uber, 37, (also from Trentino) and Thai national Veda Balabkura as business partners.

Del Casaro is now one of Thailand's leading suppliers of mozzarella cheese to hotels and restaurants in popular tourist destinations such as Bangkok, Pattaya, Hua Hin, Samui, Phuket, Phangnga and Tao island.

The small cheese factory, on the outskirts of Hua Hin town, will finish its first major expansion within four months, after which it may be able to open a souvenir shop selling cheeses to visiting tourists, said Uber.

Del Casaro is not the only mozzarella maker in Thailand.

Minor Group, the owner of The Pizza Company restaurant chain, has been making its own mozzarella for more than a decade, and at least three other companies are in the mozzarella business including Murrah Dairy Farm which four months ago launched Thailand's first buffalo mozzarella.

Italy's most famous mozzarella, from the Campania area in the south, is made with water buffalo milk. Legend has it that the water buffalos were imported from India more than 500 years ago and cross bred with African buffalos to create a creature well-suited to the hot and swampy Campania region.

There is little doubt that buffalo milk makes a better mozzarella. It has twice as much fat as regular cow milk.

Unfortunately, the milk of the average Thai water buffalo, used for field labour rather than milking, is inferior to its Campania cousins.

That may change soon, if the Murrah Dairy Farm example takes off.

Murrah Dairy Farm in Chachongsao province on Thailand's eastern seaboard has successfully artificially inseminated Thai water buffalos with Murrah buffalo sperm from Bulgaria, and now have a buffalo herd producing 150 litres of milk per day.

The buffalo milk, primarily sold to Thai-Muslims of Indian origin, is also being used to make mozzarella cheese, targeting hotels and restaurants in Bangkok.

"We just opened a shop in Ramkhamhaeng Soi 112, Mu Baan Samarkorn, in Bangkok," said Charinee Chaiyochlarb, the farm's marketing manager, who last year spent two months at a mozzarella factory in Campania to learn how to manufacture the precious cheese.

The farm's buffalo mozzarella sells at 650 baht (20.60 dollars) per kilogram, considerably less than the 1,000 baht (31.75 dollars) per kilo for the imported Italian variety.

Del Casaro in Hua Hin was originally interested in using the Murrah Dairy Farm buffalo milk to produce its own mozzarella, but decided against it because the milk would spoil en route to Hua Hin (a good five hour drive).

Of course, Del Casaro could substitute using cow's milk by starting their own Murrah buffalo farm in Hua Hin, and fulfill Mazzalai's dream of exporting mozzarella back to Italy.

But Mazzalai has some reservations.

"No, no," he said to starting a buffalo dairy farm. "When I came to Thailand I came for a better life. So if I have to work 15 hours a day I'm back to where I came from."

Edited June 1, 2010 by Utterlyuseful

[syd barrett]

A good place to buy cheese (and a fair price) is at SS Sausage on Naklua Road. It is on the left hand side when coming off the Dolphin roundabout about 3/4 of a mile down.

[kenjin]

I produce UK farmhouse style Cheddar right here in Pattaya. We supply to MrMoo's> and Western Wholesales and Simple Simons and others However it's not mature cheddar because we can't keep hold of any long enough to mature it.

[hogheaven]

I produce UK farmhouse style Cheddar right here in Pattaya. We supply to MrMoo's> and Western Wholesales and Simple Simons and others However it's not mature cheddar because we can't keep hold of any long enough to mature it.

Mr Moo also has the smoked meats you want and Greman meat products now ...near AA Insurance next to So Pattaya BIG C

i like all the stuff there, and the Honey ham and smoked meats , ham , beef, is great, as well as the all the diffrent sausages they have now ,,

the cheese is to my liking and great for fondue , cheeses sandwitch , and with the maets and wine....

[innerspace]

Does anyone know what days/times western wholesale are open?

Been down twice in the last week, once in the evening after work and once on saturday and its been closed both times.