Backbone Pain

[aaaaaa]

almost every morning I wake up with severe spine pain. trying to do some exercises and twist it to get rid of it. pain recedes somewhat, but not completely. but uneasy and uncomfortable feeling remains during the day.

I've heard b4 that bad matress might cause such problem. I suspect it might be the reason - although my wife tells me it can't be and perhaps it is because of my too much sitting in front of computer.

anyone has some experience about this and can suggest something. I mean - how to make sure is it realy coz of matress or not ?

cheers

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[spacebass]

almost every morning I wake up with severe spine pain. trying to do some exercises and twist it to get rid of it. pain recedes somewhat, but not completely. but uneasy and uncomfortable feeling remains during the day.

I've heard b4 that bad matress might cause such problem. I suspect it might be the reason - although my wife tells me it can't be and perhaps it is because of my too much sitting in front of computer.

anyone has some experience about this and can suggest something. I mean - how to make sure is it realy coz of matress or not ?

cheers

aaaaaa

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To answer your specific question, the only way you can tell whether it is mattress or not is to take mattress out of the equation and sleep on the floor on one of those thin Thai sleep mats for a week. See if back condition changes.

Twisting back to cure it is not recommended as it could aggravate the problem.

Of course it could be down to many other things or a mixture of them but as you do not provide any details the subject is too broad to speculate.

[Steve2UK]

almost every morning I wake up with severe spine pain. trying to do some exercises and twist it to get rid of it. pain recedes somewhat, but not completely. but uneasy and uncomfortable feeling remains during the day.

I've heard b4 that bad matress might cause such problem. I suspect it might be the reason - although my wife tells me it can't be and perhaps it is because of my too much sitting in front of computer.

anyone has some experience about this and can suggest something. I mean - how to make sure is it realy coz of matress or not ?

cheers

aaaaaa

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To answer your specific question, the only way you can tell whether it is mattress or not is to take mattress out of the equation and sleep on the floor on one of those thin Thai sleep mats for a week. See if back condition changes.

Twisting back to cure it is not recommended as it could aggravate the problem.

Of course it could be down to many other things or a mixture of them but as you do not provide any details the subject is too broad to speculate.

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I agree with spacebass about how to test the mattress element - probably 3-4 nights would be enough.

That said, the way most people sit at a desk/table using a computer for an hour or more almost inevitably leads to back issues. If you sit crouched over the keyboard (i.e. bent spine), you are inviting back problems. You should be able to sit with a straight back supported by the back of the chair. This also means that the keyboard should be high enough and near enough to make that possible - and that the monitor size and screen resolution should be enough to allow you to see clearly without leaning forward. Best solution is to treat your back to a decent office typist's chair with an adjustable backrest. I did and it makes a radical difference.

[Thomas_Merton]

almost every morning I wake up with severe spine pain. trying to do some exercises and twist it to get rid of it. pain recedes somewhat, but not completely. but uneasy and uncomfortable feeling remains during the day.

I've heard b4 that bad matress might cause such problem. I suspect it might be the reason - although my wife tells me it can't be and perhaps it is because of my too much sitting in front of computer.

anyone has some experience about this and can suggest something. I mean - how to make sure is it realy coz of matress or not ?

cheers

aaaaaa

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To answer your specific question, the only way you can tell whether it is mattress or not is to take mattress out of the equation and sleep on the floor on one of those thin Thai sleep mats for a week. See if back condition changes.

Twisting back to cure it is not recommended as it could aggravate the problem.

Of course it could be down to many other things or a mixture of them but as you do not provide any details the subject is too broad to speculate.

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I agree with spacebass about how to test the mattress element - probably 3-4 nights would be enough.

That said, the way most people sit at a desk/table using a computer for an hour or more almost inevitably leads to back issues. If you sit crouched over the keyboard (i.e. bent spine), you are inviting back problems. You should be able to sit with a straight back supported by the back of the chair. This also means that the keyboard should be high enough and near enough to make that possible - and that the monitor size and screen resolution should be enough to allow you to see clearly without leaning forward. Best solution is to treat your back to a decent office typist's chair with an adjustable backrest. I did and it makes a radical difference.

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I think the suggestions about sleeping on the floor are the best - I cannot sleep anywhere else now (even in the UK). But try with your own mattress on the floor first. If this doesn't work after two or three days, make or get a mattress about 2 inches thick and sleep on this on the floor. A Thai sleeping mat takes quite a while to get used to.

Read http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/fact/thr_report....pcategory=Women about how to sit at your computer.

A word of advice that differs from many others: I always sit at my computer with the seat at the height were my thighs are parallel to the floor. I'm 57 and can be up to 8 hours a day on the computer - I never have back trouble.

[Steve2UK]

almost every morning I wake up with severe spine pain. trying to do some exercises and twist it to get rid of it. pain recedes somewhat, but not completely. but uneasy and uncomfortable feeling remains during the day.

I've heard b4 that bad matress might cause such problem. I suspect it might be the reason - although my wife tells me it can't be and perhaps it is because of my too much sitting in front of computer.

anyone has some experience about this and can suggest something. I mean - how to make sure is it realy coz of matress or not ?

cheers

aaaaaa

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To answer your specific question, the only way you can tell whether it is mattress or not is to take mattress out of the equation and sleep on the floor on one of those thin Thai sleep mats for a week. See if back condition changes.

Twisting back to cure it is not recommended as it could aggravate the problem.

Of course it could be down to many other things or a mixture of them but as you do not provide any details the subject is too broad to speculate.

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I agree with spacebass about how to test the mattress element - probably 3-4 nights would be enough.

That said, the way most people sit at a desk/table using a computer for an hour or more almost inevitably leads to back issues. If you sit crouched over the keyboard (i.e. bent spine), you are inviting back problems. You should be able to sit with a straight back supported by the back of the chair. This also means that the keyboard should be high enough and near enough to make that possible - and that the monitor size and screen resolution should be enough to allow you to see clearly without leaning forward. Best solution is to treat your back to a decent office typist's chair with an adjustable backrest. I did and it makes a radical difference.

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I think the suggestions about sleeping on the floor are the best - I cannot sleep anywhere else now (even in the UK). But try with your own mattress on the floor first. If this doesn't work after two or three days, make or get a mattress about 2 inches thick and sleep on this on the floor. A Thai sleeping mat takes quite a while to get used to.

Read http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/fact/thr_report....pcategory=Women about how to sit at your computer.

A word of advice that differs from many others: I always sit at my computer with the seat at the height were my thighs are parallel to the floor. I'm 57 and can be up to 8 hours a day on the computer - I never have back trouble.

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Excellent advice on that orthoinfo site. A thought occurs to me: most Thai's are generally smaller stature than most farangs - could be that the standard table/desk height is that bit lower than the standard for farangs? In any case, arranging what you've got to comply with the advice on that site is plainly a good idea.

[ProThaiExpat]

If your a back sleeper, try a Thai triangular cushion under your knees, if a side sleeper, try a pillow between the knees.

[MP5]

If your a back sleeper, try a Thai triangular cushion under your knees, if a side sleeper, try a pillow between the knees.

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Is chiropractic care right for me? An Alternative my pain was from an injury years ago.

You don't need to suffer or be in pain and medication is not necassarily the answer.

I notice most have offered sensible (Get a spinal fusion advice JOKING)

Excellent ideas to practice the fact is you need to determine the injury and treat

It's just an alternative idea and if you're in the UK many insurance companies now cover alternative care.

Now I know why my mother always called me a pain in the neck.

Seriously I injured myself after a while went to a c'practor for the first time. Did the xrays atc and asked if I had an injury as a kid yes I had. I can interpret xrays and viewed how the old injury had aggravated a new injury in my upper back.

Pain was a reflection from lower back pain.

Sit up straight and don't slouch.

Oh! Oh! mum's on God's internet open chat line.

Good luck it's only an idea but hey who wants to be in pain

Many people consider consulting a chiropractor for low back pain because of the scientifically proven effectiveness of this particular treatment, but they might be unaware that many other conditions including headache, neck and arm pain, and disc problems or sciatica respond extremely well to chiropractic care.

Although chiropractic certainly is not a cure for arthritis, many individuals find that regular chiropractic care helps to reduce their pain and stiffness. Since chiropractors are fully trained in differential diagnosis, a consultation with the chiropractor first is advisable, as the chiropractor is best suited to determine whether treatment is appropriate or not. If chiropractic is not suitable in your particular case, you can be assured that they will direct or refer you to the appropriate professional. Make sure they are recognised by appropriate health authority like NHS or where ever

MP5 Out

[waldwolf]

aaaaaa - From your post, the only thing anyone knows about you is that your married and have back pain.

Are you 18 or 81? Are you an Olympic athlete or wheelchair bound? Do you work or are your retired? If you work, do you do heavy manual labor or work at a desk all day? Do you take any medications? Do you drink alcohol? Do you use drugs? Have you ever injured your back? Ever been in an automobile accident? (and on...and on....and on...)

The only person who can properly diagnois your problem, is a medical professional.

good luck

[camerata]

almost every morning I wake up with severe spine pain. trying to do some exercises and twist it to get rid of it. pain recedes somewhat, but not completely. but uneasy and uncomfortable feeling remains during the day.

It could have all kinds of causes. I have something similar in the mornings except it's a deep acheing and stiffness rather than sharp pain. I'd suggest seeing a specialist for a diagnosis. Dr Sak (Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation) at Samitivej is good.

[Tyree D.]

get a Thai massage. I averaged 3 a week when I was on a bad bed.

[aaaaaa]

I'm mid aged - not yet 40. and I never had any spine injuries - however I have had some experience of carring heavy wieght things - I have reasons to suspect that those disks in the spine are worn out or something - what on few web sites about spine problems mentioned as DDD. not sure though - just suspect. because I have mid back, not lower back pain.

my work is computer related and can be as many as 10-12 hours session at once, or just a couple of hours. depends. but I agree - sitting position also counts here.

I've tried sleeping on the floor - doesn't help much. however using small pillow as recommended by some - seems like works. let's see how it will continue. I simply don't want it to be DDD problem but merely some bedding / sitting arrangements matter and hope it is not my wishful thinking.

[waldwolf]

aaaaaa - Your problem could be early "spinal stenosis" or simply inflammation from poor posture (sitting at computer for hours). The pillow between the legs giving relief definately points to some type of spinal problem, hopefully minor.

Try an over-the-counter NSAID's like Aspirin, Ibuprofen, or Naproxin for 4-5 days. (Stay away from any COX-2 inhibitors such as Celebrix, due possible serious side effects.) If soreness remains, you'll need professional help. An MRI/CAT scan may be needed.

In the meantime, DON'T LIFT ANYTHING HEAVIER THAN YOUR DINNER PLATE and don't sit at the desk for long periods. Get up and walk around for a few minutes every hour or so.

good luck

[patricktan]

get a Thai massage.  I averaged 3 a week when I was on a bad bed.

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Average 3 time a week? for how long?Do you feel better now?

[Dradam]

Go see a professional. Lower back pain can be a sign of several systemic diseases that must be diagnosed by a doctor.

[WhiteShiva]

get a Thai massage.  I averaged 3 a week when I was on a bad bed.

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WARNING!

If you have back pain, make sure you tell them not to do any of the twisting movements. Those could really aggrevate your condition.

I suggets you go see a chiropractor. There are several good ones in Bangkok.

[bkkexplorer]

I've been getting back pains recently and as yourself, am sitting in front of a computer everyday. I'm now trying to get hold of a kneeling stool which I hope will eliviate this problem. check out this link if you're interested.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=38840&hl=

[expatinasia]

A couple things to try...

Lie on a hard flat surface. Bend your left leg at the knee, and cross it over your body to the right. Arch your back, and quickly move your upper torso to the left. Do the same on the right side. If you're lucky, you'll hear cracking as your back gets back into place. This is especially useful after a hot bath. You can also try sitting in a chair with a firm seat and back. Cross your left leg over your right, and move your torso sharply to the left. Redo with your other leg. Finally, you can take a hard foam roller...place the roller under your back and, using your legs, roll yourself from the shoulders to the pelvis.

[bkkexplorer]

get a Thai massage.  I averaged 3 a week when I was on a bad bed.

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WARNING!

If you have back pain, make sure you tell them not to do any of the twisting movements. Those could really aggrevate your condition.

I suggets you go see a chiropractor. There are several good ones in Bangkok.

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Is it true twisting movements is no good? I ask because when I go for a massage (TTM), the best part for me is the twisting of the back accompanied by cracking sounds. My back does feel alot better after this. Is this bad?

[expatinasia]

The cracking is GOOD - it's an indication that your spine is being properly realigned. The important thing is to keep realigning your back. When your back gets out of alignment (or when it is in proper alignment) the muscles will tend to hold the back in the current position. So, it's necessary for you to retrain your back muscles the proper position of your spine. Decades ago, people were told to stay in bed when their backs were sore. The doctors realized that was bad advice, and now tell their patients to keep as active as possible.

[gerrryuk]

almost every morning I wake up with severe spine pain. trying to do some exercises and twist it to get rid of it. pain recedes somewhat, but not completely. but uneasy and uncomfortable feeling remains during the day.

It could have all kinds of causes. I have something similar in the mornings except it's a deep acheing and stiffness rather than sharp pain. I'd suggest seeing a specialist for a diagnosis. Dr Sak (Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation) at Samitivej is good.

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This may sound odd, but for years I had a bad back, but especially it was my back at the top of spine just before my neck (where the last bone of the spine is). I had xrays and goodness knows what. And was told it was the cartlidge worn out between the bones and it was something I would have to suffer for the rest of my life. Then I was recomended to a chiropractor & after 2 private visits he told me I wasting my money and he could tell me problem immediately. We drove onto the car park together, and he told me it was the position of my drivers seat. That I should raise the back to "sit up beg type" and make certain I sat fully in the seat. (bottom to the rear of the drivers seat) I did this & 2 or 3 weeks later felt it was improving. Everything is fine now and I have had no problems since. (That was about 8 or 9 years ago). So maybe try that.....