webfact Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Reports completed on 26 terrorist suspects BANGKOK: -- The Department of Special Investigation has completed its probes into the first batch of 26 terrorist suspects and will submit reports to public prosecutors by Friday, DSI director general Tharit Pengdit said on Tuesday. The DSI recommended for trial against the 26 suspects involved in violence related to the red-shirt rally. Tharit said the 26 suspects were grouped into three separate categories for prosecution purpose - core leaders of the red shirts, red guards, also known as the hard-core group, and those linked to the bomb attack at Bhum Jai Thai Party. -- The Nation 2010-07-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piengrudee Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Kasit included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Okay, so we've got 26 terrorist suspects, now, as they are only suspects at this stage, this puts a new slant on this subject, like either U R or U aren't a terrorist, you can't be in between, hate to say this, but going on 30 yrs of previous experience, it smells already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Okay, so we've got 26 terrorist suspects, now, as they are only suspects at this stage, this puts a new slant on this subject, like either U R or U aren't a terrorist, you can't be in between, hate to say this, but going on 30 yrs of previous experience, it smells already. They've been (or will be) charged with terrorism. They aren't terrorists until they are found guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Amazing, isn't it? In just a couple of months they have completed their investigations and are ready to take the Red Shirts to trial, but it's been a year and a half and they are still not ready to take a single PAD leader to trial, claiming they need more time to "investigate" and to "interview more witnesses". If this doesn't show the blatant double standards of Thailand and the so-called "justice system", then I don't know what will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangCravings Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Kasit included? Abhisit included ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) Amazing, isn't it? In just a couple of months they have completed their investigations and are ready to take the Red Shirts to trial, but it's been a year and a half and they are still not ready to take a single PAD leader to trial, claiming they need more time to "investigate" and to "interview more witnesses". If this doesn't show the blatant double standards of Thailand and the so-called "justice system", then I don't know what will. Now I admit the PAD case hasn't shown much pace forward, but is progressing. The PAD leaders have been charged, bailed, will report again tomorrow. The 'terrorist suspects' are held under E.D. which means there is more urgency to either free them or formally charge them. The last will be done 30th this month. If by (around?) that time they wouldn't be charged they MUST be freed. The court will probably need time to study the documentation presented. Meanwhile the accused will either be (allowed to be) bailed-out, or kept in remand. With some UDD leaders having fled the country, bail seems unlikely. K. Jatuporn may be granted bail on his MP status. He's also less likely to flee the country, he enjoys his status and possibility to annoy the government too much. Edited July 27, 2010 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepenwolf1958 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Amazing, isn't it? In just a couple of months they have completed their investigations and are ready to take the Red Shirts to trial, but it's been a year and a half and they are still not ready to take a single PAD leader to trial, claiming they need more time to "investigate" and to "interview more witnesses". If this doesn't show the blatant double standards of Thailand and the so-called "justice system", then I don't know what will. Yes, it is surprise. To be so fast about getting evidences about so delicate charges and in boiled situation in society, as it is, for 26 people, it is really fast. However, now we will see what kind of material they will give to the Public Prosecutor. Can PP prosecute them or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepenwolf1958 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Amazing, isn't it? In just a couple of months they have completed their investigations and are ready to take the Red Shirts to trial, but it's been a year and a half and they are still not ready to take a single PAD leader to trial, claiming they need more time to "investigate" and to "interview more witnesses". If this doesn't show the blatant double standards of Thailand and the so-called "justice system", then I don't know what will. Now I admit the PAD case hasn't shown much pace forward, but is progressing. The PAD leaders have been charged, bailed, will report again tomorrow. The 'terrorist suspects' are held under E.D. which means there is more urgency to either free them or formally charge them. The last will be done 30th this month. If by (around?) that time they wouldn't be charged they MUST be freed. The court will probably need time to study the documentation presented. Meanwhile the accused will either be (allowed to be) bailed-out, or kept in remand. With some UDD leaders having fled the country, bail seems unlikely. K. Jatuporn may be granted bail on his MP status. He's also less likely to flee the country, he enjoys his status and possibility to annoy the government too much. Yes, i also think Mr. jatuporn likes to annoy them all. But, what Thai law says about how much time the court could take before charge them or releas them, for to study that documentation all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepenwolf1958 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Amazing, isn't it? In just a couple of months they have completed their investigations and are ready to take the Red Shirts to trial, but it's been a year and a half and they are still not ready to take a single PAD leader to trial, claiming they need more time to "investigate" and to "interview more witnesses". If this doesn't show the blatant double standards of Thailand and the so-called "justice system", then I don't know what will. Now I admit the PAD case hasn't shown much pace forward, but is progressing. The PAD leaders have been charged, bailed, will report again tomorrow. The 'terrorist suspects' are held under E.D. which means there is more urgency to either free them or formally charge them. The last will be done 30th this month. If by (around?) that time they wouldn't be charged they MUST be freed. The court will probably need time to study the documentation presented. Meanwhile the accused will either be (allowed to be) bailed-out, or kept in remand. With some UDD leaders having fled the country, bail seems unlikely. K. Jatuporn may be granted bail on his MP status. He's also less likely to flee the country, he enjoys his status and possibility to annoy the government too much. What happened with Mr. Sonthi and his case of lese majeste? For how long is imprisoned Da Torpedo from the red shirts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 DSI to Seek Terrorism Charges against Red-shirt Suspects The Department of Special Investigation will ask the Office of the Attorney General to file terrorism charges against 26 red-shirt suspects this Friday. Department of Special Investigation, or DSI, Director-General Tharit Pengdit said investigators have completed compiling evidence for terrorism cases related to the May riots and will file the investigation report with the Office of the Attorney General on Friday to seek its endorsement of terrorism charges against 26 red-shirt suspects. Asked about the bomb attack at Big C superstore in Ratchadamri area, Tharit said he did not know if the attack would be classified as a special case as he has to wait for the police's investigation. He added that his department is ready to take up the case if it becomes a special case. -- Tan Network 2010-07-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Amazing, isn't it? In just a couple of months they have completed their investigations and are ready to take the Red Shirts to trial, but it's been a year and a half and they are still not ready to take a single PAD leader to trial, claiming they need more time to "investigate" and to "interview more witnesses". If this doesn't show the blatant double standards of Thailand and the so-called "justice system", then I don't know what will. Yes, it is surprise. To be so fast about getting evidences about so delicate charges and in boiled situation in society, as it is, for 26 people, it is really fast. However, now we will see what kind of material they will give to the Public Prosecutor. Can PP prosecute them or not. Well actually the evidence was quite out in the open and on youtube and tv and several other media, the greatest problem was collating and winnowing it down to the best provable charges, that admit the least possibly legal wrangling and twisting to obscure the facts. Most of them have well and truely hung themselves on their own petards and have no one but themselves to blame, and likely their 'backers'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrat Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 The Red shirt leaders and opposition to the govt maybe charged with terroism as some of the yellow shirt leaders have. Why is only one lot in a holiday camp? Both Mobs sprouted rhetoric. I have seen no youtube or video of the Y/R leaders active in terrorism. When the red shirts were attacked they caused a major riot just like has happened the world over. They will be hard pushed to find anyone guilty of terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Amazing, isn't it? In just a couple of months they have completed their investigations and are ready to take the Red Shirts to trial, but it's been a year and a half and they are still not ready to take a single PAD leader to trial, claiming they need more time to "investigate" and to "interview more witnesses". If this doesn't show the blatant double standards of Thailand and the so-called "justice system", then I don't know what will. Yes, it is surprise. To be so fast about getting evidences about so delicate charges and in boiled situation in society, as it is, for 26 people, it is really fast. However, now we will see what kind of material they will give to the Public Prosecutor. Can PP prosecute them or not. Well actually the evidence was quite out in the open and on youtube and tv and several other media, the greatest problem was collating and winnowing it down to the best provable charges, that admit the least possibly legal wrangling and twisting to obscure the facts. Most of them have well and truely hung themselves on their own petards and have no one but themselves to blame, and likely their 'backers'. Like I said, I'm not defending UDD/Reds, but I had to smile at your comment about their actions being "out in the open and on youtube and tv and several other media", as as the exact same thing could also be said about PAD/Yellows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Okay, so we've got 26 terrorist suspects, now, as they are only suspects at this stage, this puts a new slant on this subject, like either U R or U aren't a terrorist, you can't be in between, hate to say this, but going on 30 yrs of previous experience, it smells already. They've been (or will be) charged with terrorism. They aren't terrorists until they are found guilty. A label is as good as a prison term. All these recent activities runs afoul and akin of the fabricated "commie" witch hunts of the 1970's. History just recycles itself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Amazing, isn't it? In just a couple of months they have completed their investigations and are ready to take the Red Shirts to trial, but it's been a year and a half and they are still not ready to take a single PAD leader to trial, claiming they need more time to "investigate" and to "interview more witnesses". If this doesn't show the blatant double standards of Thailand and the so-called "justice system", then I don't know what will. Yes, it is surprise. To be so fast about getting evidences about so delicate charges and in boiled situation in society, as it is, for 26 people, it is really fast. However, now we will see what kind of material they will give to the Public Prosecutor. Can PP prosecute them or not. Well actually the evidence was quite out in the open and on youtube and tv and several other media, the greatest problem was collating and winnowing it down to the best provable charges, that admit the least possibly legal wrangling and twisting to obscure the facts. Most of them have well and truely hung themselves on their own petards and have no one but themselves to blame, and likely their 'backers'. Like I said, I'm not defending UDD/Reds, but I had to smile at your comment about their actions being "out in the open and on youtube and tv and several other media", as as the exact same thing could also be said about PAD/Yellows. When will people stop crying "double standards"? Such an old used arguement Come up with something different already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Remember , '' You only get punished for being caught.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 When will people stop crying "double standards"? Such an old used arguement Come up with something different already Gee, I don't know. How about when the Government stops doing it and applies the law equally to everyone, regardless of their shirt color or political ideologies. But if you don't like "Double Standards", how about "Preferential Treatment of the Elite, Military, and Government Supporters". You like that one better? "Old argument" or not, it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 When will people stop crying "double standards"? Such an old used arguement Come up with something different already Gee, I don't know. How about when the Government stops doing it and applies the law equally to everyone, regardless of their shirt color or political ideologies. But if you don't like "Double Standards", how about "Preferential Treatment of the Elite, Military, and Government Supporters". You like that one better? "Old argument" or not, it is what it is. In a way you're right. There are double standards (still) being used. Also the two previous governments had them, just trying to get K. Thaksin back and out of legal troubles without doing much else. The Thaksin government had them to promote their own 'elite'. The problem with the phrase 'double standards'is that it tends to distract from other issues. It's like a discussion stopper, no need to think further. Labels are easy for people, but really distract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2muchcoffee Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 (edited) When will people stop crying "double standards"? Such an old used arguement Come up with something different already Gee, I don't know. How about when the Government stops doing it and applies the law equally to everyone, regardless of their shirt color or political ideologies. But if you don't like "Double Standards", how about "Preferential Treatment of the Elite, Military, and Government Supporters". You like that one better? "Old argument" or not, it is what it is. In a way you're right. There are double standards (still) being used. Also the two previous governments had them, just trying to get K. Thaksin back and out of legal troubles without doing much else. The Thaksin government had them to promote their own 'elite'. The problem with the phrase 'double standards'is that it tends to distract from other issues. It's like a discussion stopper, no need to think further. Labels are easy for people, but really distract. Moreover it's not even true. Consider the 2007 cases against the redshirts that haven't seen court yet (remember the PAD actions occurred in 2008). And then there are the Thaksin cases stemming from actions that occurred years ago. So where are those double standards? In order for there to be not double standards we need to see prosecutions in the following order: 1) Thaksin (2001-2006) 2) Redshirt Leaders (2007) 3) PAD Leaders (2008) 4) Redshirt Leaders (2009) 5) Redshirt Leaders (2010) Of course there will be a quick track prosecution for the events in 2010 given the levels of death and destruction involved. It is to be expected given that the violence of these events far exceeded anything that has happened in the last several decades in Thailand. Edited July 28, 2010 by way2muchcoffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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