Bangkok Police Prepares For Upcoming Red-Shirt Rally

[TheyCallmeScooter]

I have grave concerns.

Because this world is full of morans.

If I read here the other day that child porn is publically sold in Sukhumvit and Police seems to be corupt more like ever before ITS TIME TO CHANGE something.

Yes. Why move forward when you can reverse backwards? Just CHANGE!

Intelligent contribution from someone who doesn't understand Thaksin was Police before he got mixed up in politics and the fast track to The Billionaire Club.

and my often repeated question: WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE ABHISIT? ....just the faces of corruption or something for the masses?

If you were able to understand the big words used in the Answers, you wouldn't need to repeat your Question so often.

What has changed? Well, for one thing - there's thousands less being executed by Police.

http://www.hrw.org/e...enough-graves-0

Abhisit has announced one of the most generous welfare programs the globe has seen, which will cover every Thai citizen with social security benefits from cradle to grave.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/196087/govt-puts-welfare-state-on-agenda

How's that for change? Not enough for you? We should CHANGE back to the genocidal maniac because Abhisit can't fix the maniac's corruption overnight. We just need to CHANGE!!

And the US and UK are hardly bastions of human rights goodness or great examples the peoples rights to protest without having the living crap beat out of them doing so.

It's none of your business what the redshirts do.

Your defence of human rights abuses is that the US and UK don't respect human rights? This is you defending extra-judicial killings as fine with you, because - in your opinion - the US and UK aren't much better. Have you had any success with that razor sharp logic?

No...what they do is a little bit my business. They want to kill me and my family and burn down my home. I'm not all that cool with that. Sorry.

Edited October 8, 2010 by TheyCallmeScooter

[rubl]

Empty vessels make the most noise and you sure are loud TheyCallMeScooter.

And the US and UK are hardly bastions of human rights goodness or great examples the peoples rights to protest without having the living crap beat out of them doing so.

Get over it, get a life. The same people who lashed out at Connor Purcell for "getting involved in Thai politics" are doing the exact same with their comments here.

If Purcell was so wrong to to speak his mind and get involved then the same is true for armchair hang-em high, shoot-em dead TV brigade - you have no right to comment on Thai politics. It's none of your business what the redshirts do.

Take a valium and pretend it's not happening... because it's none of your business anyway and you're just a visitor here. I'm sure I could drag out some more hackneyed chestnuts from a few months ago and from the posts criticizing Purcell but the point is clear

It may surprise you, but there really seems to be a difference in 'interfering' by participating in discussions in this forum, and actually running around with the pack outside.

In other words, you may want to take some tablets yourself and go back sleep

[Suiken]

wonder if it will turn into a big thing....you guys gonna get prepared for this? like maybe delay your depature date, stay longer in your hotel, withdraw more money for future unknow expenses

[TheyCallmeScooter]

W11guy did not embarrass himself at all.

Regards,

Tom

Yes he did.

Regards,

Jonny

wonder if it will turn into a big thing....you guys gonna get prepared for this? like maybe delay your depature date, stay longer in your hotel, withdraw more money for future unknow expenses

Yeah I'll be booking flights in line with a permanent exit strategy for when the peaceful protesters set fire to Bangkok again. There are too many idiots in the world for Thaksin not to put his billions into play with good chance of success. Evil he may be, but you don't win 100 million / MP auctions...hundreds of times...if you're a fool. He understands the idiots. And convinces them to die for him whilst he shops in Louis Vuitton and Prada.

[sexy man]

here we go again

[truethailand]

Same as before, they will break every rule in the book - park three lanes (or more) in and interrupt traffic, loud speakers not loud hailers and the whole thing will turn to the usual law breaking rabble and the Police will turn a blind eye as always.

Perhaps now is the time for the new army chief to step up to the plate and prove his authority. Let's see.

This junta does not need any encouragement to 'step up to the plate'

[djlest]

man I am in Thailand now, so is this going to turn into a nasty fight? or just peaceful demonstration? I don't want airport to get shut down or those emergency curfews and shit....what do you guys think?

It'll be a quiet gathering. It will cause a few traffic jams (like when it rains). It'll be over by midnight.

Avoid where they're protesting and you won't even know it happened.

.... probably.

Not again!!!!!

Comon.. last week there was a spurt of bomb attacks and a few deaths,,,

This weekend a (peaceful protest) by the same peeps who were arrested in chiang mai as planning to bomb bangkok..

sure - in the beginning it will start as a peaceful protest to gather numbers and pretend to be civil...

but when the numbers are up and the brains are washed - the heat gets turned up and the weapons get sent in...

Thats whats coming...

Just when the peak holiday season was coming and Thailand had a chance to redeem itself and just when Central world has re-opened..

its time to smash them back down and keep the economy starving and blaming a govmnt for the damage caused...

time will tell... but its so boring now... its not democratic in any way shape or form...

[rubl]

Same as before, they will break every rule in the book - park three lanes (or more) in and interrupt traffic, loud speakers not loud hailers and the whole thing will turn to the usual law breaking rabble and the Police will turn a blind eye as always.

Perhaps now is the time for the new army chief to step up to the plate and prove his authority. Let's see.

This junta does not need any encouragement to 'step up to the plate'

Which 'junta', or should I ask your definition of a 'junta' ?

[HereIAm]

Empty vessels make the most noise .......

..... ..... ..... The same people who lashed out at Connor Purcell for "getting involved in Thai politics" are doing the exact same with their comments here.

If Purcell was so wrong to to speak his mind and get involved then the same is true for armchair hang-em high, shoot-em dead TV brigade - you have no right to comment on Thai politics. It's none of your business what the redshirts do.

Take a valium and pretend it's not happening... because it's none of your business anyway and you're just a visitor here. I'm sure I could drag out some more hackneyed chestnuts from a few months ago and from the posts criticizing Purcell but the point is clear

1. I agree what you said at the outset is true : You did make a very loud noise.

2. Posters on a web forum, that is accessible only by logging in through the internet with the help of a computer, cannot be equated with someone who steps up on a stage and acts up or speaks up for the general public and TV cameras to hear and be aroused. Your comment betrays a lack of understanding of simple law and is devoid of reason.

3. As for your comment that it's "none of your business because you're just a visitor here" you may like to be reminded that tourists and visitors are akin to customers. And customers have a right to comment on the provider's quality, customs, price, orderliness, etc. If you believe a visitor has no right to comment you should similarly trash all the positive views and all the spirited defence that many tourists put up FOR Thailand.

4. Taking valium and pretending it's not happening is what most tourists say they see happening IN Thailand.

Edited October 8, 2010 by HereIAm

[diehard60]

Same as before, they will break every rule in the book - park three lanes (or more) in and interrupt traffic, loud speakers not loud hailers and the whole thing will turn to the usual law breaking rabble and the Police will turn a blind eye as always.

Perhaps now is the time for the new army chief to step up to the plate and prove his authority. Let's see.

Good thinking. So let's have another "May" disaster. Right?

[diehard60]

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No...what they do is a little bit my business. They want to kill me and my family and burn down my home. I'm not all that cool with that. Sorry.

Are you dealing in DRUGS? That's what it sounds like. And to correct you - there was mass killings going on here in Thailand before Thaksin took over. If I remember correctly the police had a special HIT SQUAD About 18 years ago.

[TheyCallmeScooter]

No...what they do is a little bit my business. They want to kill me and my family and burn down my home. I'm not all that cool with that. Sorry.

Are you dealing in DRUGS? That's what it sounds like. And to correct you - there was mass killings going on here in Thailand before Thaksin took over. If I remember correctly the police had a special HIT SQUAD About 18 years ago.

Get your hearing checked. I'd ask you what you think you heard - if I thought the answer would be coherent. Are you aware they tried to burn the capital down, or are you living in 1992.

And how are you correcting me? I'd like to hear your gibbering babble explaining this one, however.

Do you think, just for once, you could be a Red Shirt that wasn't an embarrassment..you know, be able to quote a post without butchering the pressing of a single button into an abortion. Could you fall back on logic (eh, I'll settle for coherence) rather than boozy blabber, when you're crafting your glorious prose. Is it asking too much for you to link to your memory of 18 years ago? You'll forgive me for not having much faith in the old rust bucket...when you cannot even function in the immediate present.

But I'm asking too much, aren't I...

sigh.

[craigt3365]

Empty vessels make the most noise and you sure are loud TheyCallMeScooter.

And the US and UK are hardly bastions of human rights goodness or great examples the peoples rights to protest without having the living crap beat out of them doing so.

Get over it, get a life. The same people who lashed out at Connor Purcell for "getting involved in Thai politics" are doing the exact same with their comments here.

If Purcell was so wrong to to speak his mind and get involved then the same is true for armchair hang-em high, shoot-em dead TV brigade - you have no right to comment on Thai politics. It's none of your business what the redshirts do.

Take a valium and pretend it's not happening... because it's none of your business anyway and you're just a visitor here. I'm sure I could drag out some more hackneyed chestnuts from a few months ago and from the posts criticizing Purcell but the point is clear

In the US and UK they have protests all the time. The current favorite in the US is the Tea Party. They are protesting loudly against the government and do it openly...with thousands attending...but they do it peacefully and within the rules set by the authorities. I haven't seen a protester beat since...well...the Rodney King riots in LA. Not sure where you get your facts from??????

As mentioned previously, debating politics here on TV is a big difference from being in front of Central World saying to a camera to burn it all down. HUGE difference. If we keep these discussions civil, and intelligent, they can be fun...unfortunately, not all abide by these norms.

And for many here on TV, it is their business!! Literally. They have businesses and support families here...and are losing money due to these protesters. So I would say they have a huge vested interest in what is going on. And many others own real estate here...whose values are directly effected by this mess.

So for sure we are concerned and have a right to voice our opinion. We are not just visitors here but long term residents....

[justSumGai]

No...what they do is a little bit my business. They want to kill me and my family and burn down my home. I'm not all that cool with that. Sorry.

Are you dealing in DRUGS? That's what it sounds like. And to correct you - there was mass killings going on here in Thailand before Thaksin took over. If I remember correctly the police had a special HIT SQUAD About 18 years ago.

Get your hearing checked. I'd ask you what you think you heard - if I thought the answer would be coherent. Are you aware they tried to burn the capital down, or are you living in 1992.

by and large I agree with your posts, but saying they tried to burn the capital down is just STUPID. It's past exaggeration. Vehicles, sure, tires, yeah, Central World and a few other spots, maybe. But the whole "capital" ??

please, that just sounds as bad as the guys you post in reply to.

[way2muchcoffee]

by and large I agree with your posts, but saying they tried to burn the capital down is just STUPID. It's past exaggeration. Vehicles, sure, tires, yeah, Central World and a few other spots, maybe. But the whole "capital" ??

please, that just sounds as bad as the guys you post in reply to.

To say they tried to burn the capitol down is certainly exaggeration, however to say that it was just a few buildings is also not really correct. Here is a short and incomplete list I compiled from news reports while the events were taking place.

I would call this 'quite a few' or 'many' buildings burned. Some of these buildings sustained only minor damage while others were gutted.

Siam Theater

Municipal Electricity Khlong Toei

Centara Hotel

Grand Diamond Hotel

SET

SEER Rangsit

7-11 Din Daeng

Central Chid Lom

Central World and Zen

Paragon

BTS Chid Lom

MRT Khlong Toei

MRT Queen Sirikit

Center One Department Store

MK Restaurant Siam

Ministry of Narcotics

Channel 3 Thailand

Din Daeng Flats

TESCO Rama IV

Mahachon Building

Big C Rajdamri

Approximately 15 Bank Branches in BKK

Burned Government Buildings

City Hall Ubon Ratchathani

City Hall Udon Thani

City Hall Mukdahan

City Hall Khon Kaen

Edited October 9, 2010 by way2muchcoffee

[SomTumTiger]

by and large I agree with your posts, but saying they tried to burn the capital down is just STUPID. It's past exaggeration. Vehicles, sure, tires, yeah, Central World and a few other spots, maybe. But the whole "capital" ??

please, that just sounds as bad as the guys you post in reply to.

While burning the capitol down is an exaggeration, to say that it was just a few buildings is also not really correct. Here is a short and incomplete list I compiled from news reports while the events were taking place. I would call this 'quite a few' or 'many' buildings burned. Some of these buildings sustained only minor damage while others were gutted.

Siam Theater

Municipal Electricity Khlong Toei

Centara Hotel

Grand Diamond Hotel

SET

SEER Rangsit

7-11 Din Daeng

Central Chid Lom

Central World and Zen

Paragon

BTS Chid Lom

MRT Khlong Toei

MRT Queen Sirikit

Center One Department Store

MK Restaurant Siam

Ministry of Narcotics

Channel 3 Thailand

Din Daeng Flats

TESCO Rama IV

Mahachon Building

Big C Rajdamri

Approximately 15 Bank Branches in BKK

Burned Government Buildings

City Hall Ubon Ratchathani

City Hall Udon Thani

City Hall Mukdahan

City Hall Khon Kaen

Red apologists love to downplay the destruction. It lets them sleep at night.

[TheyCallmeScooter]

by and large I agree with your posts, but saying they tried to burn the capital down is just STUPID. It's past exaggeration.

There is a big difference between intent and result. I said they tried to burn the capital down. I didn't say they succeeded.

In any case, it would be arrogant of me to assume I know their intent better than they did. It would be unfair if I assumed I spoke for them when I do not. To be fair, I am forced to quote their expressions of intent verbatim.

Right, what have we got here to quote...

let's burn the entire country!

*cheering* (I assume that's in agreeance)

burn the country and I will take all responsibility.

*cheering*

If you seize our power, burn the country.

*cheering*

Looks like I was unfair to them? I apologise. They tried to burn the country down, not just Bangkok.

[TheyCallmeScooter]

Two sources are better than one. We wouldn't want to let them vilify poor old Wut. Just because he demanded they put it all on him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M9XiJoWSSs

We have 1 million litres of gasoline in Bangkok, I guarantee you Bangkok will turn into land of flame.

*cheering*

Bangkok will immediately turn into flame.

*cheering*

Those who live in the country....burn down your city as well!

*cheering*

--------------------------------------------------

How embarrassing for me. They tried to burn Thailand. Not just Bangkok.

But I do believe I'm owed an apology I was under-exaggerating their intent.

[Ricardo]

<snip for brevity>

and my often repeated question: WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE ABHISIT? ....just the faces of corruption or something for the masses?

Perhaps the loan-forgiveness programme (although I personally think it encourages 'moral hazard' for borrowers), or the 500B/month old-age pension and the making FREE of the 30-Baht hospital-treatment scheme, might all be taken as helping the masses.

Wouldn't you agree ? Or does it have to be repeated often, to get the message across ?

[rubl]

by and large I agree with your posts, but saying they tried to burn the capital down is just STUPID. It's past exaggeration. Vehicles, sure, tires, yeah, Central World and a few other spots, maybe. But the whole "capital" ??

please, that just sounds as bad as the guys you post in reply to.

To say they tried to burn the capitol down is certainly exaggeration, however to say that it was just a few buildings is also not really correct. Here is a short and incomplete list I compiled from news reports while the events were taking place.

I would call this 'quite a few' or 'many' buildings burned. Some of these buildings sustained only minor damage while others were gutted.

Siam Theater

Municipal Electricity Khlong Toei

Centara Hotel

Grand Diamond Hotel

SET

SEER Rangsit

7-11 Din Daeng

Central Chid Lom

Central World and Zen

Paragon

BTS Chid Lom

MRT Khlong Toei

MRT Queen Sirikit

Center One Department Store

MK Restaurant Siam

Ministry of Narcotics

Channel 3 Thailand

Din Daeng Flats

TESCO Rama IV

Mahachon Building

Big C Rajdamri

Approximately 15 Bank Branches in BKK

Burned Government Buildings

City Hall Ubon Ratchathani

City Hall Udon Thani

City Hall Mukdahan

City Hall Khon Kaen

Maybe missing in this list some shops along RamaIV Rd. between Lumphini Stadium and the expressway ? It was at least one 7/11 I think.

[cdnvic]

If you can't discuss this without throwing insults at each other than walk away from the keyboard for a bit. The name calling is getting tiresome and won't be tolerated.

[Pi Sek]

There seems to be some very misinformed opinions on here.

How can anyone suggest that Abhisit hasn't done anything? Sure, those that read the newspapers - any newspapers, not just the suspect ones - will see that there have been very few (if any) Thai PMs who have made as many really good changes as Abhisit in such a short timeframe.

And this "let them protest" - my opinion is NO, do not let them protest. The SOE is the Law for the moment for a good reason: I'm sure your average impressionable red shirt is a very nice person with no violent agenda, but the the Red Shirt movement itself is absolutely violent - it's in the nature of any insurgency-funded movement. Until they get rid of the violence, the social injustice part of the protest will always take a back seat.

And I know that some say, "TIT, don't get involved, it's none of our business, Thais don't care what you think"... you are WRONG. Apart from the threats to our own homes, lives and welfare, it is the civic duty of anyone to address wrongs in society, your own or any other. That's why most of the Red Shirts go to these things.

[Insight]

Does this URL works? Can't access from my phone. If it does it should be "burn everything" orders given on 19th May.

[whybother]

Does this URL works? Can't access from my phone. If it does it should be "burn everything" orders given on 19th May.

<snip video>

It works ... it brings up "This video has been removed do to term of use violation".

[basjke]

Here we go again, another "shitty" day in Paradise.

While in most western and specially USAmerican and European governments can do what ever they want to do, in Thailand at least there are some ppl going on demos!

If I read here the other day that child porn is publically sold in Sukhumvit and Police seems to be corupt more like ever before ITS TIME TO CHANGE something.

GO ON REDS

....and to every Farang who is concerned about its business in LoS, take a long holidy at YOUR country and stop complaining about something u dont have a clue of TIT

and my often repeated question: WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE ABHISIT? ....just the faces of corruption or something for the masses?

Hopefully you undersatnd how you contradict yourself in this stupid post.

In case you don't,you probably understand that before abhisit was in charge the reds were the faces of corruption.

[Insight]

Thanks wb, am sure I can find another copy later ;-)

[Tanlic]

Most Thais are easy going fun loving people but there's no denying they are easily led.

There lack of education (not their falut) allows them to be manipualted and unfortunately they aren't wide enough to realise it.

They loved Thaksin because he helped the poor in the villages but it seems everyone in the world except them know he was robbing them blind at the same time.

Very sad sutuation and the only people who will lose out of it is the poor Thais who are being used and abused at every turn.

I hope today passes without any trouble but if anyone steps out of line they should come down on them like a ton of bricks.

That might sound unfair but if they have anymore riots here the country is goosed

.

[whatseezname]

There lack of education (not their falut) allows them to be manipualted and unfortunately they aren't wide enough to realise it.

sorry couldnt help myself.

.

[webfact]

Police to be deployed at sensitive areas; protesters gear up for Red Shirt rally

BANGKOK, Oct 9 -- About 3,000 police will be deployed at sensitive areas in the Thai capital Sunday as anti-government protesters of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) plan to rally demanding the release of imprisoned UDD leaders, according to national police chief Pol Gen Vichien Poteposri.

Pol Gen Vichien said police have estimated that 5,000 to 7,000 UDD Red Shirt supporters will participate in the rally. He said the protesters have been asked to conduct it in a symbolic manner and to stop the demonstration no later than 5pm.

Police will be posted at important and sensitive areas including BTS Skytrain stations, MRT underground stations and at the Democracy Monument, which was the scene of bloody fighting between protesters and security personnel on April 10, Gen Vichien said.

The nation's top police officer advised UDD supporters upcountry to hold rallies in their hometowns instead of travelling to Bangkok, he said.

Sellers of fertiliser, such as urea which can produce an explosive similar to TNT, gas cylinders and fire extinguishers are required to note down the names of buyers who are not their regular clients and inform the authorities immediately for fear that these materials would be used for making bombs, Gen Vichien said.

A number of UDD leaders are being detained on terrorism charges after their marathon rally ended May 19 following clashes between protesters and military in the capital. The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship has been demanding the coalition government of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to step down unconditionally. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2010-10-09

[Theoutsider]

No camping out