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i voted for thr first time in my life. the only thing i said with my vote is IM NO SOCIALIST. and thank god most of usa feels the same way.

20% of usa is liberal / progressive(kooks)   , 80% is teabagger/etc :lol::lol::lol: .god bless you jt. and yes your 20 % almost ruined the greatest country on the planet and are very loud.

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In your mind is there a such thing as radical left wing? If so, who are they within the federal government. If not, would you like them to be?

Yes.

None in the federal government.

No.

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So what would be examples of radical left wing? If you believe they are no radical left wing in the federal government how about any of the national level media With this I mean any of the news channels, print media or radio that is available at least across the contennital US?

hey jt. just watch glen beck-he points out all the radical in the adminintration like no other. just one example-this berwick character who just adores the healcare in europe. we do need to vet this guy and w the new sheriffs in town maybe it will get done.

other than fox all the darn media is left(corrupt), which is why they have such low ratings. i love it when rush points out the cartoon network has higher ratings than the main stream media :lol::lol::lol:

ps. is this a left wing outfit. they seem to be harsh to jt critics.

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The power of zionism.

Can you please leave your anti-Israel campaign on the threads which are actually about Israel and Palestine?

Better yet, one of those Hamas blogs that have been used as sources here by some types. They will appreciate it more. :bah:

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The connection is fallacious.

Domestically more like LBJ.

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Historically speaking, Obama is already great, even if limited to one term, which is very unlikely.

Democratic presidents are so much better. The test. Observe the modern ex-presidents. The democrats have been major world activists for peace, fighting disease and poverty globally. Clinton/Carter.

The republicans? Golf, cocktail parties, little public service. Bush, bush, Ford, Reagan.

Peace?

Escalating the war in Afghanistan, instigating the bombing of Pakistan and maintaining US troops in Iraq is peace?

Poverty?

Who removed the Glass Steagall Act, enabling the current financial crisis to rear its ugly head? Clinton, with the help of the Republicans.

It's amazing how many people are stuck in the false left/right paradigm. Stick Obama in and suddenly Hawkish Bush-like policies are accepted by Democrats.

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It will be an interesting next 2 years. The GOP will do its utmost to sabotage and  block Sarah Palin, while the Democrats will do their utmost to  help her run for President. :lol:

Despite all the negativity, President Obama managed to  reintroduce some oversight to the financial markets, has kept major US industries alive and has helped implement  economic policies that have created jobs. He also managed to ensure 2 qualified supreme court justices were appointed.  The fact of the matter is that the defense department is still managed by Republicans and many of the  current Treasury and Fed personnel are acceptable to the GOP. Attaching labels is silly, since  democrats and republicans  have similar policies on many issues.

As much as some Republicans may  want the GOP in office I expect enough senators  will align themselves with  the current administration on some votes if only because they can't stand the TeaParty group, that president Obama will do just fine. If Murkowski manages to win in Alaska against the Tea Party and Palin's handpicked candidate it will show that Palin is not that powerful. She merely exploited a wave of frustration of people wanting quick fixes without  any acceptance of responsibility for  being the cause of the problem in the first place. The sun will still rise tomorrow, even if the Republicans have made some gains. McCain isn't going anywhere. Lieberman isn't going anywhere. And Murkowski is going to remember who stabbed her in the left buttock cheek.  Common sense will prevail after the euphoria wears off. The House of Rep. will get changed again in 2 years time. In the meantime, I fear we will see some Italian/Israeli style political dysfunction.

obama policies are nothing but groundwork  of socialism.  WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? cap and tax is nothing but added costs to business.which policies have helped create jobs?

the 2 liberal judges are there to further his agenda.

did you see what happened on election night??????  obamas was soundly neutered.

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In your mind is there a such thing as radical left wing? If so, who are they within the federal government. If not, would you like them to be?

Yes.

None in the federal government.

No.

Next ...

So what would be examples of radical left wing? If you believe they are no radical left wing in the federal government how about any of the national level media With this I mean any of the news channels, print media or radio that is available at least across the continental US?

Cannot think of any radical left wing names as easily as you list in your opinion what are radical right names? You know you cannot have a good wrestling match without a good guy and a bad guy . Otherwise people will loose interest. So who are the players? We know your list on the right.

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Cannot think of any radical left wing names as easily as you list in your opinion what are radical right names? You know you cannot have a good wrestling match without a good guy and a bad guy . Otherwise people will loose interest. So who are the players? We know your list on the right.

So let them "loose" interest. So what? I don't accept your premise. Of course there are radical left wing Americans but the US is mostly a right centrist country, so they don't get much support. Obama is certainly not a radical left winger. He is center left. I realize radical right wingers call him a Marxist, a Socialist, etc. but they only feel that way from their far right perspective; those labels are not the truth.

I suppose one example of a radical left winger who held office would be ex-congresswoman Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. Such people are so rare to be in office in the US that they are hardly worth mentioning.

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Cannot think of any radical left wing names as easily as you list in your opinion what are radical right names? You know you cannot have a good wrestling match without a good guy and a bad guy . Otherwise people will loose interest. So who are the players? We know your list on the right.

So let them "loose" interest. So what? I don't accept your premise. Of course there are radical left wing Americans but the US is a right wing country, so they don't get much support. Obama is certainly not a radical left winger. He is center left. I realize radical right wingers call him a Marxist, a Socialist, etc. but they only feel that way from their far right perspective; those labels are not the truth.

I suppose one example of a radical left winger who held office would be ex-congresswoman Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. Such people are so rare to be in office in the US that they are hardly worth mentioning.

Agree on the McKinney. If Obama had far left tendencies before he took office I can't help but think the weight of representing all Americans, the consequences of failing to protect Americans from extreamist both left, right and perhaps out of this world will ground him in reality. I for one try to at least understand that he as his predecessor have the best intentions for the country. But I'm always leery of walking through water in which I can not see my feet. Best of luck to him and the other side.

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At least Pelosi is gone. Reid was almost canned too...

I would love to be in the House when Boehner takes over and Pelosi has to get off her "high chair".

P.S. I'm an independent... completely....

Obama got more done in two years than almost any other president in American history and Nancy Pelosi deserves a lot of the credit for that. The public didn't like a strong, brilliant woman. It's too bad because the country would have been a lot better off, even considering Obama's accomplishments, if Hillary Clinton has been elected instead. Farewell to a great speaker, hello to a radical right wing do nothing. The republicans have no agenda or plan, their only goal is to make Obama a one term president, and they will not achieve that.

The American right wing is a joke. They say they want to cut the deficit but instead they want to add trillions to it by restoring a tax cut for the rich only. They say they hate government entitlements, but honestly, tell me, have you ever seen even one teabagger burn their MEDICARE card the way lefties used to burn their draft cards, not to mention their bras?

BTW, the sweep of the congress, which is real, is not a victory for the teabaggers. The teabaggers have peaked (at about 20 percent of the people). Their most visible ditz, the Palin clone witch of Delaware was destroyed at the polls. Palin's very own private Alaska horse in Alaska appears to be LOSING to the establishment republican as a write in candidate. If a write in candidate is even close to winning, that shows just how weak Palin really is, even in her home state, who knows her best (as the BIG QUITTER). Write in candidates almost NEVER win; they almost never are even close, so this is already a rebuke of Palin tea witches brew.

The main reason the R's swept congress this time is the economy, stupid, as Bill Clinton used to say. People are impatient and not satisfied with the progress on unemployment. It's just a midterm, 2012 has already started and Obama will be well positioned, especially if the R's are idiotic enough to put up Palin.

Hi could you explain something to me, I'm not American so feel a bit removed from this talk, but why do political commentators refuse to stop touting Palin as a possible future presidential candidate? I just cannot imagine how it could ever happen. Arnold for governor is one thing, but Palin for president is in a whole new fantasy league, surely?

Obama accomplished a few good things, but mainly due to control of the house, senate and him being a democrat president. Republican's would have done the same. I'm not against Obama. I don't like all of his decisions, but he is OK. Better than some presidents we have had in the past! :rolleyes:

As far as Pelosi, her approval ratings are in the toilet. She is not strong, but stubborn. Arrogant. And that applies to both sides. It's time they start working together and quit fighting each other. It's getting sickening. They just battle each other for control. Not really to truly help the American people.

I am no Palin fan. I think her popularity is mainly among white women, and extreme conservatives. Seems this is the decade of the female politician. I was watching CNN during the elections and they were mentioning how many women were recently elected...and how many were running. A huge increase over previous years.

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At least Pelosi is gone. Reid was almost canned too...

I would love to be in the House when Boehner takes over and Pelosi has to get off her "high chair".

P.S. I'm an independent... completely....

Obama got more done in two years than almost any other president in American history and Nancy Pelosi deserves a lot of the credit for that. The public didn't like a strong, brilliant woman. It's too bad because the country would have been a lot better off, even considering Obama's accomplishments, if Hillary Clinton has been elected instead. Farewell to a great speaker, hello to a radical right wing do nothing. The republicans have no agenda or plan, their only goal is to make Obama a one term president, and they will not achieve that.

The American right wing is a joke. They say they want to cut the deficit but instead they want to add trillions to it by restoring a tax cut for the rich only. They say they hate government entitlements, but honestly, tell me, have you ever seen even one teabagger burn their MEDICARE card the way lefties used to burn their draft cards, not to mention their bras?

BTW, the sweep of the congress, which is real, is not a victory for the teabaggers. The teabaggers have peaked (at about 20 percent of the people). Their most visible ditz, the Palin clone witch of Delaware was destroyed at the polls. Palin's very own private Alaska horse in Alaska appears to be LOSING to the establishment republican as a write in candidate. If a write in candidate is even close to winning, that shows just how weak Palin really is, even in her home state, who knows her best (as the BIG QUITTER). Write in candidates almost NEVER win; they almost never are even close, so this is already a rebuke of Palin tea witches brew.

The main reason the R's swept congress this time is the economy, stupid, as Bill Clinton used to say. People are impatient and not satisfied with the progress on unemployment. It's just a midterm, 2012 has already started and Obama will be well positioned, especially if the R's are idiotic enough to put up Palin.

was really expecting to see some sarcastic emoticons after reading this delusional ramble.

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Some factoids --

Among the freshmen in congress this time, they are mostly white MEN. It is the first time the number of new women in congress has decreased, also a marked decrease in minorities overall. The congress overall has reflected the American people, VERY DIVERSE, but this new class dominated by the tea party people is mostly white men. No surprise there but a hint that this new wave will not stand.

Palin actually has very good support among white men. Bottom line, a lot of them find her hot. Don't ask.

Also, Pelosi probably won't run for minority speaker because she might lose and she wouldn't want nor does she deserve such humiliation. As the ex majority speaker, she is NOT automatically the new minority leader; it doesn't work that way. So expect a new democratic face as minority speaker in the house.

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was really expecting to see some sarcastic emoticons after reading this delusional ramble.

And such a display of juvenile graphics would be similarly vapid as your text, above.

Hint, if you disagree with somebody's points, wouldn't you agree the mature thing to do is to actually RESPOND to the content, rather than just tossing an insult?

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Some factoids --

Among the freshmen in congress this time, they are mostly white MEN. It is the first time the number of new women in congress has decreased, also a marked decrease in minorities overall. The congress overall has reflected the American people, VERY DIVERSE, but this new class dominated by the tea party people is mostly white men. No surprise there but a hint that this new wave will not stand.

Palin actually has very good support among white men. Bottom line, a lot of them find her hot. Don't ask.

Also, Pelosi probably won't run for minority speaker because she might lose and she wouldn't want nor does she deserve such humiliation. As the ex majority speaker, she is NOT automatically the new minority leader; it doesn't work that way. So expect a new democratic face as minority speaker in the house.

Some "factoids" might be a tad premature. Jingthing does say "probably won't run" so it might not be a "factoid", but merely an unsubstantiated opinion. B)

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Nancy Pelosi may stay on as House Democratic leader

By JONATHAN ALLEN & JOHN BRESNAHAN | 11/4/10 6:40 PM EDT Updated: 11/4/10 10:00 PM EDT

Speaker Nancy Pelosi is calling fellow Democrats as she weighs whether to stay in leadership and run for minority leader after losing control of the House Tuesday night, according to two senior Democratic aides and one lawmaker.

Pelosi has made some of these contacts herself but has had surrogates reach out to other Democrats to test her support level within the caucus.

The members making calls on Pelosi's behalf include some of her closest friends and allies in the House - Reps. George Miller (Calif.), Rosa DeLauro (Conn.), Zoe Lofgren (Calif.), Steve Israel (N.Y.) and Robert Brady (Pa.), among others, said House insiders.

Pelosi is working her way through most, if not all, the Democratic Caucus, said these sources.

The 70-year-old Pelosi is not directly asking to stay on as Democratic leader at this point. Rather, she is seeking their feedback on what the leadership should look like in the next Congress, although the implied message is whether they would oppose her remaining as minority leader.

For members of her inner circle, the calls suggest that she may not be ready “to turn the keys over” while she’s gauging the more general feelings of Democrats outside her tightest clutch of backers, according to one of the aides.

A Democrat who spoke to Pelosi today said she is "just trying to figure out the mood of the caucus." This member told her "to do what she wants, I support you."

But the Democratic lawmaker also pointed out that Pelosi told ABC News’ Diane Sawyer on Wednesday that she would be "talking to my members ..." and would announce her decision when she finishes that process.

"I've gotten a positive response, but I haven't gone to a place where I've made a decision about that," Pelosi told the Huffington Post on Thursday. "Only today have I even looked at messages or anything that relate to me from...members, friends, progressives, whether that's collectively in organizations or as individuals. And of course the ones you will hear from are the ones who want you to run."

The calls come amid a trickle of conservative Blue Dogs suggesting Thursday that Pelosi should step down — a move that could clear the path for Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) to lead the party in the minority.

Utah Rep. Jim Matheson, co-chairman of the decimated Blue Dog Coalition, told POLITICO Thursday that Pelosi should not run for minority leader because "we just got whupped" on Election Day. North Carolina Rep. Heath Shuler, the other Blue Dog co-chairman, told CQ-Roll Call that he doesn't think she'll run — and that he'll wage a Quixotic battle against her if she does. And the Arkansas Democrat Gazette reported that Rep. Mike Ross, a former Blue Dog leader, said he won't vote for Pelosi.

“Yeah, it’s on,” one senior Democratic aide who was aware of Pelosi’s calls said. “Game on.”

The chief of staff to another lawmaker said a proxy for Pelosi is “calling members to see where they are regarding her or with Hoyer.”

Hoyer has told reporters he would run for leader only if Pelosi steps aside.

But the chief of staff said Hoyer might face his own challenge if that happens. Current Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told POLITICO that he intends to remain in the Democratic leadership in the 112th Congress, but it's also clear that Clyburn won't run against Hoyer. This means another liberal lawmaker could step forward to take on Hoyer in the event of a Pelosi departure.

“If she steps aside, it would not surprise me to see someone more of her side step up and challenge Hoyer,” the aide said. “I also wouldn't be surprised if that happens and whole slate gets challenged.”

Pelosi remained secluded in her Capitol office on Thursday, although she was expected to give interviews to news organizations or reporters favored by progressives.

Several Democratic insiders said Pelosi has not made a decision yet on what she will do or if she has made a decision on her future, has not informed anyone of those plans.

Rest of story here: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44724.html

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i voted for thr first time in my life. the only thing i said with my vote is IM NO SOCIALIST. and thank god most of usa feels the same way.

After reading what you write, such as backing constant bailouts of certain companies and bank, and a huge controlling government that should spend more and more you clearly are.

But as with all socialists youre a hypocrite and have jumped ship to a nation of low taxation and less govt intervention in day to day lives.

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was really expecting to see some sarcastic emoticons after reading this delusional ramble.

And such a display of juvenile graphics would be similarly vapid as your text, above.

Hint, if you disagree with somebody's points, wouldn't you agree the mature thing to do is to actually RESPOND to the content, rather than just tossing an insult?

if you actually made points i might respond with something other than a point and laugh but you are quite obviously a partisan hack and incapable of holding a discussion where anyone would dare disagree with your far left politics. here's a factoid for you, the vast majority of americans disagree with your politics and having the speaker of the house state that "if you want to know what is in this bill, you must pass it" doesn't count as getting anything done. well, apart from showing utter contempt for the taxpayers.

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That makes sense. If Pelosi feels she will definitely win, she may go for it. But I don't think she would want to take much risk of losing. She was demonized by Fox News, etc., but in reality she was probably the most effective house speaker that ever lived. She is a truly great lady, and I salute her service to the people of America! Obamacare will live as will the true history of the vital role of Nancy Pelosi. The history will be written by real scholars, not Fox News hacks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/04/AR2010110406625.html

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Some factoids --

Among the freshmen in congress this time, they are mostly white MEN. It is the first time the number of new women in congress has decreased, also a marked decrease in minorities overall. The congress overall has reflected the American people, VERY DIVERSE, but this new class dominated by the tea party people is mostly white men. No surprise there but a hint that this new wave will not stand.

Palin actually has very good support among white men. Bottom line, a lot of them find her hot. Don't ask.

Also, Pelosi probably won't run for minority speaker because she might lose and she wouldn't want nor does she deserve such humiliation. As the ex majority speaker, she is NOT automatically the new minority leader; it doesn't work that way. So expect a new democratic face as minority speaker in the house.

Pelosi embarrassed herself by saying there will be no new deficit spending, then closes her eyes to the spending of 5 trillion in a couple of years ... but we know in your world 5 trillion is perfectly acceptable.

As for the rest of your ramblings maybe they should bring in affirmative action and ban racist sexist whitey from getting the job, youre more an extremist then those you name call though you suffer from self awareness to see it.

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Ideally, the house of REPRESENTATIVES should approximately reflect the DEMOGRAPHICS of the entire country. Meaning over half should be women, blacks should be approx 15 percent, Hispanics approx 15 percent, etc. That is the ideal that of course never will be exactly realized, but there is no doubt that such a body dominated by straight white men when straight white men are a minority is not representative of the people (we the people, remember) and thus obviously NOT a positive trend.

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Ideally, it should NOT MATTER what anyone's sex or race is. These white men were democratically elected. :whistling:

How far would you go with that? Would you think it was a healthy sign if the congress was all men when the country has a majority of women?

Just in case anyone asks for proof of this sorry trend, the whiting of congress, and reflecting how very white the tea party people are (if they are really we the people, why mostly white people, can you answer that, I bet you can't).

But the more than 100 newly elected lawmakers who will soon descend on Capitol Hill for freshman orientation collectively do not look like America. Flipping through their portraits, you see a blur of white men. Ninety-seven are men, and 12 are women. Although some contests remain too close to be called, it appears this might be the first election cycle in 32 years that the number of women in Congress does not increase.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/03/AR2010110308373.html Edited by Jingthing
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Some factoids --

Among the freshmen in congress this time, they are mostly white MEN. It is the first time the number of new women in congress has decreased, also a marked decrease in minorities overall. The congress overall has reflected the American people, VERY DIVERSE, but this new class dominated by the tea party people is mostly white men. No surprise there but a hint that this new wave will not stand.

Palin actually has very good support among white men. Bottom line, a lot of them find her hot. Don't ask.

Also, Pelosi probably won't run for minority speaker because she might lose and she wouldn't want nor does she deserve such humiliation. As the ex majority speaker, she is NOT automatically the new minority leader; it doesn't work that way. So expect a new democratic face as minority speaker in the house.

Interesting. Thanks! I was just repeating what I heard on CNN and they were commenting about how many women were running this time.

That makes sense. If Pelosi feels she will definitely win, she may go for it. But I don't think she would want to take much risk of losing. She was demonized by Fox News, etc., but in reality she was probably the most effective house speaker that ever lived. She is a truly great lady, and I salute her service to the people of America! Obamacare will live as will the true history of the vital role of Nancy Pelosi. The history will be written by real scholars, not Fox News hacks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/04/AR2010110406625.html

Fox demonizes all democrats. Crazy news channel. Again, what I heard on CNN, was many are trying to separate themselves from Pelosi due to her poor approval rating. They mentioned a few candidates associated with her who had lost...or almost did, like Reid. She seems to be a bit toxic to be around right now...but for sure with her big ego, she will want to be in the game.

How far would you go with that? Would you think it was a healthy sign if the congress was all men when the country has a majority of women?

Just in case anyone asks for proof of this sorry trend, the whiting of congress, and reflecting how very white the tea party people are (if they are really we the people, why mostly white people, can you answer that, I bet you can't).

But the more than 100 newly elected lawmakers who will soon descend on Capitol Hill for freshman orientation collectively do not look like America. Flipping through their portraits, you see a blur of white men. Ninety-seven are men, and 12 are women. Although some contests remain too close to be called, it appears this might be the first election cycle in 32 years that the number of women in Congress does not increase.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/03/AR2010110308373.html

I do find it strange to look at our elected leaders and see nothing but old white guys. Not representative for sure....

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Fox demonizes all democrats. Crazy news channel. Again, what I heard on CNN, was many are trying to separate themselves from Pelosi due to her poor approval rating. They mentioned a few candidates associated with her who had lost...or almost did, like Reid. She seems to be a bit toxic to be around right now...but for sure with her big ego, she will want to be in the game.

Craig:

Have you ever heard of MSNBC?

You really should spend a few hours on YouTube watching Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Ed Schulz and anybody else from that news source. You will then have a pretty good idea what "bias" really is.

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Just in case anyone asks for proof of this sorry trend, the whiting of congress, and reflecting how very white the tea party people are (if they are really we the people, why mostly white people, can you answer that, I bet you can't).

Perhaps because it is in your head.

MediaResearchCntr | September 12, 2010

For more than a year now, the mainstream media has demonized the Tea Party as a group of white racists.

On September 12, 2010, we set out to see for ourselves if the Tea Party is as "monochromatic" as most of the media steadfastly claims to this day.

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Media Research Center is a totally biased CONSERVATIVE propaganda center. They claim they are objective but their mission statement shows that is huge lie, as the very founding of their group was based on the already concluded agenda that the mainstream media has a liberal bias. Rather cheeky when you know the truth that Fox is the number one network, a network that has a right wing bias without any doubt. That's the best you can do, a lame video from a propaganda group? How do you explain how the new crop of conservative congressMEN is so white and so male? Huh?

To be clear, I am not asserting that all tea party people are racists. I am asserting they are less diverse than the country at large, in other words much more WHITE than the country at large. I am also asserting that if you meet an American who is overtly racist and/or homophobic, chances are quite high that person if politically affiliated is either a republican, a tea partier, or BOTH, and less likely to be a democrat.

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