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I am getting this error on Win XP Home and it is hanging my machine. :bah:

I have tried serious scans for viruses etc and all looks clean.

The error pops up, randomly, after about 3-4 hours of use.

Reboot and all is well until the next time.

It started about a week ago.

Research suggest an IRP Stack size problem.

Any additional ideas?

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I suspect you have a paging file problem. I saw the message once a long time ago when I had no paging file.

Microsoft suggests this:

Error Message:

Not enough storage is available to process this command.

User Action:

Do one of the following, then retry the command:

(1) reduce the number of running programs

(2) remove unwanted files from the disk the paging file is on and restart the system

(3) check the paging file disk for an I/O error

(4) install additional memory in your system.

Use the Task Manager to view your memory usage.

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Thanks for your input.

The event log was one of the first places I went, and surprisingly, shows little of interest,

only routine stuff.

I have 2gb of memory installed and rarely use more than 1 Gb.

I did add the registry item about the IRPStackSize, but that has not helped,

so I must look further.

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Thanks for your input.

The event log was one of the first places I went, and surprisingly, shows little of interest,

only routine stuff.

I have 2gb of memory installed and rarely use more than 1 Gb.

I did add the registry item about the IRPStackSize, but that has not helped,

so I must look further.

I know you never gonna do it anyway.... but in this situation I would back up my data....

Martin

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I had this problem trying to access an external USB drive attached to my netbook running XP home over the network . I increased the IRPStackSize value to 21 (DEC) and everything worked. I know you said you checked this already but what value did you use.

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I think I have cracked it.

Studying the System Log I noticed that the broadband seems to stop and start just before

the system fails. I also see a service for Hotspot Shield stopping and starting

at the same time.

I have removed the Hotspot Shield and the machine has run without a problem all night,

the first time for a week. :D

In answer to Damole, I set the IRPStackSize maximum value to be 12 (0C)

MS does not recommend any higher as it can open the system to virus attack.

Thanks to all.

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In article 285089 MS recommends values as high as 50 (DEC) and in article 177078 from MS it is written :

In Windows NT 4.0, the default value of IRPStackSize is 0x4, and the range is from 0x4 to 0xC (4-12). Windows NT 4.0 with Service Pack 5 or later ignores values less than 0x7.

In Windows 2000, the default value of IRPStackSize is 15, and the range is from 11 to 50. In Windows XP, the default value for IRPStackSize is 15, and the range is from 11 to 50.

--damole

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I increased the max Stack size to 40 (decimal) and still got the problem

so it is now set to 50, and I will have to see what happens.....

What I don't understand is why it is happening??

I have been running XP Home for years now with much the same

programmes, but the problem has only started in the last month!!

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I increased the max Stack size to 40 (decimal) and still got the problem

so it is now set to 50, and I will have to see what happens.....

What I don't understand is why it is happening??

I have been running XP Home for years now with much the same

programmes, but the problem has only started in the last month!!

I think you should start thinking backwards... most people never touch the Stack size and those who do, are doing it because of a specific software that require this...

In your case the error is coming "by itself" even when you are not doing much, if I understand it correctly. If this resource is getting exhausted regardless of the settings then you may have some software that is running wild and not releasing the resources...

I think you were on the right track when you checked the system log and stopped the Hotspot shield... maybe there are more. If the broadband goes down and then up without releasing the resources maybe that it the problem. Maybe it has gone down and up a few times long before you get the error message, each time consuming some resources?

I know this is a bunch of words without any real substance but if you haven't solved it after googling around, you need to review the problem from a different angle...

Can you try to stress the computer into creating this error when you want it and not when the computer happens to feel like it. Can it be provoked by manually upgrading anything like antivirus or windows update or running some other program or a bunch of them at the same time?

If you can, this is a faster lane to a solution because you don't need to wait for hours every time you test.

I know it has been mentioned before but does the page/swap work?

Time/frustration factor... do you invest more of it trying to solving the problem than you would spend on doing a fresh reinstall from scratch, and what would your action be if you have the same problem afterwards?

Martin

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I found one fix for this:

You need to tell Windows that you want to use the machine as a file server and that it should allocate resources accordingly. To do this: 1. Click Start, Run, 2. Type "regedit" 3. Set the following registry key to ‘1′: Navigate to: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\LargeSystemCache 4. And set the following registry key to ‘3′: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Parameters\Size After making these changes, restart your machine.

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I found one fix for this:

You need to tell Windows that you want to use the machine as a file server and that it should allocate resources accordingly. To do this: 1. Click Start, Run, 2. Type "regedit" 3. Set the following registry key to '1′: Navigate to: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\LargeSystemCache 4. And set the following registry key to '3′: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Parameters\Size After making these changes, restart your machine.

True, but why do you need all those resources now when things worked just fine a month ago?

Martin

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^ My thoughts exactly.

If the problem can't be fixed, maybe it's time to reinstall the OS...

Yep. A couple of years is a long time for a Windows install. I used to kill them within 18 months back when I was still using Windows.

Spend days to find the problem without guaranteed results. Or reinstall now ;)

Just to be safe, hotspot shield sounds evil, so uninstall any and all anti virus software you may have. It will give you loads of warnings but its actually quite safe as long as you stay away from the darkweb... Eg warez and porn sites. Why does it sound evil? Because there is no need for a "hotspot" shield, therefore its scare ware. Maybe you have other scare ware installed? Best to get rid of it all.

One more thing make sure you have virtual memory enabled and set to be managed automatically. If you futz around with that setting things can go bad. Example you never need more than 1GB you might think having 2GB of ram installed is good enough and you don't need vm. Thats wrong, vm is always needed because the OS is basically optimized for it.

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Just to be safe, hotspot shield sounds evil, so uninstall any and all anti virus software you may have. It will give you loads of warnings but its actually quite safe as long as you stay away from the darkweb... Eg warez and porn sites. Why does it sound evil? Because there is no need for a "hotspot" shield, therefore its scare ware. Maybe you have other scare ware installed? Best to get rid of it all.

Hotspot Shield isn't scareware it's vpn software that allows you to reach sites that aren't normally available in Thailand.

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I think you should start thinking backwards... most people never touch the Stack size and those who do, are doing it because of a specific software that require this...

In your case the error is coming "by itself" even when you are not doing much, if I understand it correctly. If this resource is getting exhausted regardless of the settings then you may have some software that is running wild and not releasing the resources...

I think you were on the right track when you checked the system log and stopped the Hotspot shield... maybe there are more. If the broadband goes down and then up without releasing the resources maybe that it the problem. Maybe it has gone down and up a few times long before you get the error message, each time consuming some resources?

I know this is a bunch of words without any real substance but if you haven't solved it after googling around, you need to review the problem from a different angle...

Can you try to stress the computer into creating this error when you want it and not when the computer happens to feel like it. Can it be provoked by manually upgrading anything like antivirus or windows update or running some other program or a bunch of them at the same time?

If you can, this is a faster lane to a solution because you don't need to wait for hours every time you test.

I know it has been mentioned before but does the page/swap work?

Martin

True, but why do you need all those resources now when things worked just fine a month ago?

Martin

Very valid points, Martin.

That was why I started with the system log, but apart from the HotSpot shield

it did not show anything of significance and still does not.

Then I went to Google and found the IRPStack parameter.

It is 50 max now and the problem persists. :bah:

I have tried to think of new sw that I might have installed, but nothing comes to mind,

apart from the routine upgrades from Firefox, etc and of course Windows.

So who knows what has changed.

Several Malware and virus scans come up clean.

I have looked at the swap file. I was running with just 1Gb.

I did increase that to 2Gb, and have just changed it again to "Windows Managed".

So it is still wait and see.

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Just to be safe, hotspot shield sounds evil, so uninstall any and all anti virus software you may have. It will give you loads of warnings but its actually quite safe as long as you stay away from the darkweb... Eg warez and porn sites. Why does it sound evil? Because there is no need for a "hotspot" shield, therefore its scare ware. Maybe you have other scare ware installed? Best to get rid of it all.

Hotspot Shield isn't scareware it's vpn software that allows you to reach sites that aren't normally available in Thailand.

Oh - I see, sorry. The name mislead me there. Should have Googled it.

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Astral. Wish I'd seen your post earlier. I'm running XP Home (SP3) and had EXACTLY the same problem - AND I FIXED IT !!

The bottom line was that it was Avira Antivir (Free) screwing things up. When I uninstalled it the problem went away - and it's not come back. Don't know which antivirus program your using tho'.

A guy helped me get to the bottom of it on another forum. Feel free to read thru' this and to post your own problem if this doesn't help :

http://forums.whatthetech.com/index.php?showtopic=115549&view=getnewpost

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The bottom line was that it was Avira Antivir (Free) screwing things up. When I uninstalled it the problem went away - and it's not come back. Don't know which antivirus program your using tho'.

An isolated incident perhaps?

I have XPSP3 + Avira (free)... No problems whatsoever.

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