Ethernet Wiring In Apartment?

[penta]

wonder if anyone has had this done here or knows a company that does it?(bkk) its a pretty big 2story apartment, with router in office downstairs, and no way to get good wifi signal upstairs, so only solution i see now is getting an ethernet jack upstairs?

ive already tried powerplug ethernet, but that was a dissaster, also tried wifi bridge, but that wasnt stable enough.

[keeniau96]

The ethernet cabling itself is quite simple. Use Cat. 5e, which is readily available in 300 m boxes; the maximum length of the run should not exceed 100 m. Should be installed same as telephone wire. Attach the RJ-45 plugs at each end, test connection and that's it. The problem is a nice cable installation. You can get flat plastic conduit in white color with a sticky back that will look fairly decent properly applied at the baseboard. There are proper corner boxes made for inside and outside bends. The real problem is going between the floors. Can do that outside the wall or inside. Outside may be problem attaching a conduit to the wall. Drill through the wall on lower and upper floors, avoiding the structural column. A competent installer should have the job done within two hours. Materials cost will be less than 1500 baht, labor ???.

Before doing this try to see if you can get an acceptable signal with wireless connection, much simpler. Be sure to use a good quality router eg. Linksys/Cisco WAG-160N.

[JimShortz]

The ethernet cabling itself is quite simple. Use Cat. 5e, which is readily available in 300 m boxes; the maximum length of the run should not exceed 100 m. Should be installed same as telephone wire. Attach the RJ-45 plugs at each end, test connection and that's it. The problem is a nice cable installation. You can get flat plastic conduit in white color with a sticky back that will look fairly decent properly applied at the baseboard. There are proper corner boxes made for inside and outside bends. The real problem is going between the floors. Can do that outside the wall or inside. Outside may be problem attaching a conduit to the wall. Drill through the wall on lower and upper floors, avoiding the structural column. A competent installer should have the job done within two hours. Materials cost will be less than 1500 baht, labor ???.

Before doing this try to see if you can get an acceptable signal with wireless connection, much simpler. Be sure to use a good quality router eg. Linksys/Cisco WAG-160N.

Really, by using an "N" rated router you should be able to cover one building (google "router n or g") to find out more.

If you do go for cabling there is no reason to not use Cat 6 grade cabling - it's very cheap and widely available now. This has a much higher capacity than 5e and will to some extent future-proof your installation. For a while anyway!

Good luck!

[penta]

thx for the response guys ,i have the cisco N router and its not strong enough it seems, not stable signal inside BRs, iam not gonna do any wiring myself, but iam guessing most electrians would do it with ease?

[maxman71]

The ethernet cabling itself is quite simple. Use Cat. 5e, which is readily available in 300 m boxes; the maximum length of the run should not exceed 100 m. Should be installed same as telephone wire. Attach the RJ-45 plugs at each end, test connection and that's it. The problem is a nice cable installation. You can get flat plastic conduit in white color with a sticky back that will look fairly decent properly applied at the baseboard. There are proper corner boxes made for inside and outside bends. The real problem is going between the floors. Can do that outside the wall or inside. Outside may be problem attaching a conduit to the wall. Drill through the wall on lower and upper floors, avoiding the structural column. A competent installer should have the job done within two hours. Materials cost will be less than 1500 baht, labor ???.

Before doing this try to see if you can get an acceptable signal with wireless connection, much simpler. Be sure to use a good quality router eg. Linksys/Cisco WAG-160N.

Really, by using an "N" rated router you should be able to cover one building (google "router n or g") to find out more.

If you do go for cabling there is no reason to not use Cat 6 grade cabling - it's very cheap and widely available now. This has a much higher capacity than 5e and will to some extent future-proof your installation. For a while anyway!

Good luck!

I've served as a Project Manager for several large R&D computer data center design and builds in India, Canada and Europe over the last few years. Use CAT 6, and if you are a user of advanced applications that need good bandwith now, consider CAT 6e if you can find it at a reasonable price, as your current advanced applications are likely to get more advanced. 100 meters distance is too far for a cable run. I wouldn't go longer than about 85 meters. This info is from the best IT engineers I've worked with from India and the US.

[maxman71]

The ethernet cabling itself is quite simple. Use Cat. 5e, which is readily available in 300 m boxes; the maximum length of the run should not exceed 100 m. Should be installed same as telephone wire. Attach the RJ-45 plugs at each end, test connection and that's it. The problem is a nice cable installation. You can get flat plastic conduit in white color with a sticky back that will look fairly decent properly applied at the baseboard. There are proper corner boxes made for inside and outside bends. The real problem is going between the floors. Can do that outside the wall or inside. Outside may be problem attaching a conduit to the wall. Drill through the wall on lower and upper floors, avoiding the structural column. A competent installer should have the job done within two hours. Materials cost will be less than 1500 baht, labor ???.

Before doing this try to see if you can get an acceptable signal with wireless connection, much simpler. Be sure to use a good quality router eg. Linksys/Cisco WAG-160N.

Really, by using an "N" rated router you should be able to cover one building (google "router n or g") to find out more.

If you do go for cabling there is no reason to not use Cat 6 grade cabling - it's very cheap and widely available now. This has a much higher capacity than 5e and will to some extent future-proof your installation. For a while anyway!

Good luck!

I've served as a Project Manager for several large R&D computer data center design and builds in India, Canada and Europe over the last few years. Use CAT 6, and if you are a user of advanced applications that need good bandwith now, consider CAT 6e if you can find it at a reasonable price, as your current advanced applications are likely to get more advanced. 100 meters distance is too far for a cable run. I wouldn't go longer than about 85 meters. This info is from the best IT engineers I've worked with from India and the US.

Forgot to mention wireless points. The preferred choice I've seen used in commercial applications is Aruba. But you need to check to make sure whichever Aruba model you get, the router is compatible with it. Most WAP's are PoE (powered over Ethernet) and the WAP itself doesn't need it's own separate power source. So you need to make sure your router will support PoE.

[penta]

iam sure you guys wanna discuss corporate deployment of wireless or whatever, but not very relevant, iam gonna try move the wifi router to living room and see if it will be good enough signal for upstairs brs, if not i guess ill have to go with cable somehow.

[barryw52]

The ethernet cabling itself is quite simple. Use Cat. 5e, which is readily available in 300 m boxes; the maximum length of the run should not exceed 100 m. Should be installed same as telephone wire. Attach the RJ-45 plugs at each end, test connection and that's it. The problem is a nice cable installation. You can get flat plastic conduit in white color with a sticky back that will look fairly decent properly applied at the baseboard. There are proper corner boxes made for inside and outside bends. The real problem is going between the floors. Can do that outside the wall or inside. Outside may be problem attaching a conduit to the wall. Drill through the wall on lower and upper floors, avoiding the structural column. A competent installer should have the job done within two hours. Materials cost will be less than 1500 baht, labor ???.

Before doing this try to see if you can get an acceptable signal with wireless connection, much simpler. Be sure to use a good quality router eg. Linksys/Cisco WAG-160N.

Really, by using an "N" rated router you should be able to cover one building (google "router n or g") to find out more.

If you do go for cabling there is no reason to not use Cat 6 grade cabling - it's very cheap and widely available now. This has a much higher capacity than 5e and will to some extent future-proof your installation. For a while anyway!

Good luck!

I've served as a Project Manager for several large R&D computer data center design and builds in India, Canada and Europe over the last few years. Use CAT 6, and if you are a user of advanced applications that need good bandwith now, consider CAT 6e if you can find it at a reasonable price, as your current advanced applications are likely to get more advanced. 100 meters distance is too far for a cable run. I wouldn't go longer than about 85 meters. This info is from the best IT engineers I've worked with from India and the US.

Forgot to mention wireless points. The preferred choice I've seen used in commercial applications is Aruba. But you need to check to make sure whichever Aruba model you get, the router is compatible with it. Most WAP's are PoE (powered over Ethernet) and the WAP itself doesn't need it's own separate power source. So you need to make sure your router will support PoE.

Not sure if you can get them in Thailand but if the wiring gets to hard between floors and you cannot get the Wifi type N to work consider using another Wireless access point in another location on same floor as your current Wifi access sometimes you just need to send the Wifi signal from a different location and if this does not work I have also used Ethernet over mains adaptors http://www.netgear.c...Home+Networking they won't give you gigabit speeds but you will get 100mbps+. Just plug into power point near your current router plug in the ethernet cable plug in upstairs and ethernet out to your PC or laptop etc. Ideal for rented apartments and houses where you cannot install cabling.

My number one option is always cabling as I stream Multimedia files across the cables at gigabit plus speed but some times it just not possible so that when the other alternatives need to be considered

[barryw52]

Just re readyour originals post re Ethernet over mains. They won't work if the power pointsare on different power circuits you can fix this by getting and electrician tochange the circuits around so the two circuits in question are actually connectedtogether as long as you're not overloading the circuit at the circuit breaker agood electrician can sort this for you.

[howto]

Your problem seems to be

not getting enough signal for a reliable connect.

That topic has been previously discussed.

A potential solution for your problem may be found here

Several options are listed there, all work very well.

Perhaps one will solve your problems too.