dmax Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 i once seen an old french guy masterbating ( openly ) over children swimming on pattaya beach , i was sitting with my thai girlfriend at the time . it was a rainy day and not too many people on the deck chairs. i attacked him and then told her to come to police box at top of walking street with me to report it, she went relunctantley with me when we got there i tried to explain to cops what this animal had been doing, my girlfriend just stood there like a dummy !! only after i shouted at her to tell the cops what he was doing did she then told them , they looked at each other and laughed that was 10 yrs ago , i hope things have changed. in my own villiage in isaan last year my wife was taking a shower , i looked out the window and seen a drunken thai man with my baby in his arms, i ran out and snatched her back, then told my wife never ever to leave my baby with any man ever again. " oh he ok , he know my family " gggrrrrrrr anyway i dont want to say too much on this and hi jack your topic but just trying to let people see what the thai ( mai pen rai ) attitude is like especially even when it involves the safety of young children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 in my own villiage in isaan last year my wife was taking a shower , i looked out the window and seen a drunken thai man with my baby in his arms, i ran out and snatched her back, then told my wife never ever to leave my baby with any man ever again. " oh he ok , he know my family " gggrrrrrrr Pls highlight my story to ur wife. Crime happen anywhere ,anytime ."Prevention" is more important then later regret for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Update. Yesterday we went to the high court hoping would met up with the judge and learn the progress of our case. The helpful clerk there explained to us that they had yet received the compiled file to be complete by the police. Therefore no judge had been allocated for the case. He explained to us the whole process and what we could do. Next we went knocking on the police station. We enquire the officer in charge who claimed that he had already completed his investigation and was waiting for the doctor's report. He instead,insisted us to make enquiry to the doctor,what are holding them back? End up we visited the hospital. My wife relayed what happened to the doctor who told us that her report was all along ready for collection but no policemen show up. Again my wife call up the officer who claimed that he had sent his subordinate to collect the documents. The nurse check with all receiption department and confirmed nobody came. The doc got irritated and call up the officer asking when will he be coming over to settle the document....? The doctor again comforted my wife. She claimed is her "Na Ti" to help us and we sure are grateful to her. Leaving the hospital, we met up with a lawyer who mocked at what happened. He classified our case as "rape".1) child under 13 of ages. 2) Anything that penetrate the vagina.The max sentence will be 23 years imprisonment. If we were to claim finanical compensation, he would had a lighter sentences. He advised us not to hire any lawyer until the court had prosecuted the perpetrator. The whole process need time and no lawyer could accelerate it. Immdiately he call up the officer to point out the seriousness of the crime and check on what had happened that afternoon. He mentioned that our case can never be cover up but time is what it takes....dam_n! Back in my country, the perpetrator will have to be imprisonment waiting for trial. Not roaming freely waiting for trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 people are usually arrested here first also I believe.....I would be contacting a few of the organisations to help with this, tell them the police seem to be passing the buck and delaying things. Is the guy still around even ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrobert Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Perhaps you might consider contacting the below organization. They have managed over the years to create some pull with government officials at all levels. www.thegreyman.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Also if you want a lawyer to call, western and one that is connected to a similar organisation as mentioned above, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSingh Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 i once seen an old french guy masterbating ( openly ) over children swimming on pattaya beach , i was sitting with my thai girlfriend at the time . it was a rainy day and not too many people on the deck chairs. i attacked him and then told her to come to police box at top of walking street with me to report it, she went relunctantley with me when we got there i tried to explain to cops what this animal had been doing, my girlfriend just stood there like a dummy !! only after i shouted at her to tell the cops what he was doing did she then told them , they looked at each other and laughed that was 10 yrs ago , i hope things have changed. in my own villiage in isaan last year my wife was taking a shower , i looked out the window and seen a drunken thai man with my baby in his arms, i ran out and snatched her back, then told my wife never ever to leave my baby with any man ever again. " oh he ok , he know my family " gggrrrrrrr anyway i dont want to say too much on this and hi jack your topic but just trying to let people see what the thai ( mai pen rai ) attitude is like especially even when it involves the safety of young children. Yeah i know, it's horrific.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 The perpetrator still around. We are annoyed with that. Really helpless is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrobert Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The perpetrator still around. We are annoyed with that. Really helpless is it? Nothing is ever truly helpless to those who are determined and patient and exercise wisdom. Helplessness is an emotional state. Forget about the scum for now. You know who he is and chances are he'll be around for a long time. Concentrate instead on the little girl for the foreseeable future.She is the one who needs your thoughts, not him. Don't make the scum the full-time object of your thoughts. That would deprive your daughter of your full-time attention. A wise man once said, "Vengeance is a dish best served cold." Be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Happyrobert u really strike the nail right on the head. Never too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aridion Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 He still walking about freely. That doesn't surprise me somehow. Just ensure that you and your family remain safe. I hope that you will get the required results soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 He still walking about freely. That doesn't surprise me somehow. Just ensure that you and your family remain safe. I hope that you will get the required results soon. Hope so aridion, so far we got stuck somewhere. Many local are also awaiting for his arrest but yet he still around. Many are confused by the way things work out and so am i. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Shoot the <deleted>....that stop any confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 As the officer quoted that the medical was missing, today afternoon again we went to check with the hospital regarding the document. The nurse lead us to locate the file and confirmed nobody had came for collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Stevie Wonder could see you are getting fcuked around by the police, time to bypass them and get it happening.....you should really get pro active, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Sounds like the asshol_e has some buddies in the BiB to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travel2003 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Donut42day You already have a lawyer, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Donut42day You already have a lawyer, correct? Yes a lawyer waiting for the court summon is useless if the document not submitted to the court,. The officer aren't collecting the required document. Even they did , will they not find other excuses? Why can't we just directly sue the perpetrator, with what i got as evidence and later request the Judge to handover what the officer had as further supporting document..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Such a small town, and things aren't moving. Nawiter will contact who u mention. Personally will talk to the local blog group or even media. My main objective will be the perpetrator. I belief people as such aren't fit for freedom but will only endanger the society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aridion Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Good on you Donut42day. He should not be able to get away with this. Obviously, as has been said, his friends in the BiB are trying to play this down and hopes it goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Hi guys, i had sent an email to all Mayor of Trang for help. Again hope it works in the proper way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Personally will talk to the local blog group or even media. My main objective will be the perpetrator. I belief people as such aren't fit for freedom but will only endanger the society. Be VERY careful you don't libel this guy. Libel is a criminal offence in Thailand, difficult to defend yourself against, and often used to harass plaintiffs and shut them up. Simply stating what you consider the "facts" of the case and identifying the guy could get you in a lot of trouble. It happened to a friend of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Personally will talk to the local blog group or even media. My main objective will be the perpetrator. I belief people as such aren't fit for freedom but will only endanger the society. Be VERY careful you don't libel this guy. Libel is a criminal offence in Thailand, difficult to defend yourself against, and often used to harass plaintiffs and shut them up. Simply stating what you consider the "facts" of the case and identifying the guy could get you in a lot of trouble. It happened to a friend of mine. Thanks for the advise. The consider the Facts of the case with evidence do u think is a Libel ? what happen to ur friend ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travel2003 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Many of the members here on TV have a good insight into Thai law. Surely there must be a posibility for a civil law suit? Or the lawyer can put some pressure on the Police by contacting the news papers and talk about how the police are stalling this amazing case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Many of the members here on TV have a good insight into Thai law. Surely there must be a posibility for a civil law suit? Or the lawyer can put some pressure on the Police by contacting the news papers and talk about how the police are stalling this amazing case. Seems in LOS Thais are afraid of upsetting the apple kart, getting involved, in case they get hassle. Remember we talked about Thais not helping road traffic accident victims, same reason, don't want to get roped into anything.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travel2003 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Many of the members here on TV have a good insight into Thai law. Surely there must be a posibility for a civil law suit? Or the lawyer can put some pressure on the Police by contacting the news papers and talk about how the police are stalling this amazing case. Seems in LOS Thais are afraid of upsetting the apple kart, getting involved, in case they get hassle. Remember we talked about Thais not helping road traffic accident victims, same reason, don't want to get roped into anything.. Yes I understand. At least a lawyer is paid to act in the best interest of the client. Or at least, thats the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Thanks for the advise. The consider the Facts of the case with evidence do u think is a Libel ? what happen to ur friend ? The problem is what is or isn't true and whether it's in the public interest to reveal it is something the police will leave to the courts. But because it's a criminal offence, they start by taking your finger prints and you have to bail yourself out. So even if the "evidence" against you is not convincing, you're treated rather like a criminal. And these cases can last a long time. I don't know how my friend's case ended. I haven't seen her for a long time. Motorbike taxi drivers aren't known for filing libel charges, of course, but I'd be careful anyway, just in case he knows a dirty lawyer or cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut42day Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Thanks for the explaination camerata. No wonder so many willing to resolve the matter thru violence then in a lawful way. The perpetrator might not get his punishment by the law before the victim got jailed for nothing. The perpetrator is free protected by the law for a long time and the victim family have to suffer else jailed for libel. Learn something valuable here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmax Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Shoot the <deleted>....that stop any confusion. BEST POST SO FAR !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Perhaps the only way you'll get the cops do get off their ass is to bung them... seems that's all they're interested in after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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