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HI all,

I'm planning going to see Angkor Watt at the end of this month, planning on getting casino bus from Morchit to Aranyaprathet and then get a private taxi from there to Siem Reap.

It will be my first time to Cambodia (apart from 1 hour in a casino on a visa run). I'm travelling with my thai wife and 2 thai friendsand will probably stay 2 or at most 3 nights.

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I 'm not sure how to gpo abut getting a visa for Cambodia, what do you recomend? Is it possblr to get a visa on arrival at Aranyaprathet? If so how much is it and how long will it take? Don't want to be delayed too long as I'm the only person travelling that will need a visa. Is it better/easier to get one from Cambodia Embassy in Bangkok? I live in Bangkok right now.

I've also read that you can get a e-visa online for Cambodia from MFAIC website but it appears to be down right now?

We plan to get the casino bus from Bangkok to Aranyaprathet. Also how much can we expect to pay for a taxi from Poipet to Siem Reap? Is it best to get an organised tour to see Angkor Watt - how much would this cost?

Any help and tips are greatly appreciated ,

thank you

Posted

I will stand correcting Mark, but I thought Thais needed a passport and visa to enter Cambodia (as opposed to the overnight pass they get to visit the Poipet casinos)

A visa at the Poipet crossing will cost you 1200 baht as opposed to the $20US for a visa on arrival in Phnom Penh.

IMHO you would be better served to fly into PP (Airasia about 3000 bht) and then bus to SR, then bus back to T,land (saves the departure fee about $25 per person).

Avoid the immigration and taxi mafia at Poipet where at all possible.

Posted

I've never crossed in Poi Pet but i've crossed many times at Ban Laem. There it is $20 or 1000baht and the visa takes 20 minutes maybe. Super easy. No idea on taxi fare, we meet up with relatives.

Posted

Thai citizens do need a visa for Cambodia. You can get these on the internet (as advised above) for 25 USD each (approx 750 baht).

Beware though, as some Cambodian land border officials can make life difficult, for obvious reasons, as there is quite a difference between 1200 bt and 750 bt. They will accept your e-visa eventually, but bring a good book to read, while you are waiting.

If you book hotel or guest house in Siam Reap, they should be able to collect you at Poipet for 25 USD for 1 car. Journey tales 1 hour 30 mins max.

In my experience, crossing the border at Poipet takes about 1 hour. Please also double check your own Thai status, as Thai Immigration may ask to see a copy of your Thai exit air ticket, depending on the type of Thai visa you have.

Posted

Thai citizens do need a visa for Cambodia. You can get these on the internet (as advised above) for 25 USD each (approx 750 baht).

Beware though, as some Cambodian land border officials can make life difficult, for obvious reasons, as there is quite a difference between 1200 bt and 750 bt. They will accept your e-visa eventually, but bring a good book to read, while you are waiting.

If you book hotel or guest house in Siam Reap, they should be able to collect you at Poipet for 25 USD for 1 car. Journey tales 1 hour 30 mins max.

In my experience, crossing the border at Poipet takes about 1 hour. Please also double check your own Thai status, as Thai Immigration may ask to see a copy of your Thai exit air ticket, depending on the type of Thai visa you have.

A phamplet handed out on my flight 4 weeks ago states that citizens of Phillipines ,Malaysia and Singapore are visa exempt and that all other nationalities require a valid visa. (Russia is soon to be added to the visa exempt list.

Posted

I will stand correcting Mark, but I thought Thais needed a passport and visa to enter Cambodia (as opposed to the overnight pass they get to visit the Poipet casinos)

A visa at the Poipet crossing will cost you 1200 baht as opposed to the $20US for a visa on arrival in Phnom Penh.

IMHO you would be better served to fly into PP (Airasia about 3000 bht) and then bus to SR, then bus back to T,land (saves the departure fee about $25 per person).

Avoid the immigration and taxi mafia at Poipet where at all possible.

A visa at Poipet has always been 1000 baht (or $25) on every occasion I have made the crossing so unless it has changed in the very recent past I think you might be mistaken.

Posted

I will stand correcting Mark, but I thought Thais needed a passport and visa to enter Cambodia (as opposed to the overnight pass they get to visit the Poipet casinos)

A visa at the Poipet crossing will cost you 1200 baht as opposed to the $20US for a visa on arrival in Phnom Penh.

IMHO you would be better served to fly into PP (Airasia about 3000 bht) and then bus to SR, then bus back to T,land (saves the departure fee about $25 per person).

Avoid the immigration and taxi mafia at Poipet where at all possible.

A visa at Poipet has always been 1000 baht (or $25) on every occasion I have made the crossing so unless it has changed in the very recent past I think you might be mistaken.

Your exchange rate is a bit out of date,at current rates 1000 bt =$33 dollars (approx).

The sign at the visa issuance office clearly states tourist visa $20 but they refuse to take dollars and insist on Thai baht.

Posted

You've had your advice on the visa so I won't add any but as to the organised tours of the temple complex at Angkor I'd recommend hiring a tuk-tuk for the day. I can't recall the cost but would guess around 20 USD maybe a bit more maybe even less. Most of the drivers know their way around and will take you to the main sights. Unless you are heavily into temples you'll probably find half a day more than enough and there ain't much to do in Siem Reap. Most of the restaurants and a couple of bars are on street number 8, known as pub street, but other than that it's a real quiet laid back sort of place.

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You've had your advice on the visa so I won't add any but as to the organised tours of the temple complex at Angkor I'd recommend hiring a tuk-tuk for the day. I can't recall the cost but would guess around 20 USD maybe a bit more maybe even less. Most of the drivers know their way around and will take you to the main sights. Unless you are heavily into temples you'll probably find half a day more than enough and there ain't much to do in Siem Reap. Most of the restaurants and a couple of bars are on street number 8, known as pub street, but other than that it's a real quiet laid back sort of place.

Phil Harris is correct. Many other posts here are not. Thai citizens do need a visa to enter Cambodia, except to visit the casinos, which can be done on a border pass. A visa at the Cambodia Poi Pet border (if you get it at the Government visa office at the border is US$20 -- in DOLLARS! They take Dollars if you have them. If you don't have a $20 bill, you will pay more, so carry a $20 for each person entering Cambodia. The Cambodian immigration officers will ask for an extra B100, which I sometime pay and sometime I don't. They don't press the issue, but paying it will speed up the process. The buses to Siem Reap from Poi Pet are pretty good. A cab in which they will cram 4 passengers (plus the driver) is $25 per person. As I recall, the but is $9.00. The last bus to Siem Reap leaves Poi Pet at about 2:00, so you will need to arrive in Aranyaprethet by about noon to get the bus. There are a lot of scammers at the border, so be careful. Many will press you to use them to get the Cambodian visa (some say you need to get it at their place (on the Thai side)), and if you do it will cost you B1000 to B1200 (as stated above), But if you get it after you have cleared Thai immigration, at the Government office it is pretty straight forward -- US$20 bill and "maybe" an extra B100. A tuk tuk at Siem Reap is $15 (or can be negotiated to that) and the one day pass to see the temples is $20 or $25, I don't recall precisely. The tuk tuk drivers are very good and can tell you and show you a lot. I saw all I wanted to see from 9 am to 1:30, by then I was "templed out". The Pub Street area is ok, 2 nights in Siem Reap is plenty -- definitely some good crafts and art in Cambodia. I would definitely go on to Phnom Penh from Siem Reap, only 4 hours, and on to Sihanoukville from there, only another 4 hours -- both well worth seeing (I like both better than Siem Reap). I would come back from Sihanoukville via Koh Kong and on to Pattaya or Bangkok. Koh Kong is a good 1 night stop, really good food. I did the trip I outlined in November in 11 days, 3,3,3. and 2 days on each end for travel. Enjoy your trip and safe travels.

Edited by Thailaw
Posted

visas can also allegedly be obtained at

General Consulate of Cambodia in Thailand (Sa Kaew)

No. 666, Sovanasone Road

Ampheu Meung Sa Kaew 27000

Sa Kaew Province, Thailand Phone: (037) 421 734/735

Fax: (037) 421 736

Email:[email protected]

Posted

visas can also allegedly be obtained at

General Consulate of Cambodia in Thailand (Sa Kaew)

No. 666, Sovanasone Road

Ampheu Meung Sa Kaew 27000

Sa Kaew Province, Thailand Phone: (037) 421 734/735

Fax: (037) 421 736

Email:[email protected]

They can. It is on the road between Aranyaprathet and Poi Pet. If you get hooked up with a scammer in Thailand, he will stop there and get the visa for you and charge you B1,000 for the service. It happened to me on my first visa run to Cambodia. When I arrived in Aranya, the lady at the bus station told me that she should arrange for transport to the border in a van for B40 -- I said ok, big mistake. The visa was arranged at the Consulate by the van driver. So, a B60 ride (motorbike taxi price) to the Border cost me B440. Get a songtaw (B20 per person) to Poi Pet (you may not need one if the bus takes you all the way to the border for a casino visit), and get your visa at the border -- no benefit to stop at the Consulate (it is 4 or 5 km from the border).

Posted

In november last year, (as reported in TV), Thailand and Cambodia were supposed to sign an agreement to abolish visas for their nationals.

Was this agreement signed?

Any recent information?

Posted (edited)

Many people do not get templed out in half a day (though many Thai ladies might!). There are many different temples each with its own atmosphere. Don't miss the small but dainty temple at Banteay Srei. A good guide book from the tourist office or street vendors is worth the $7 if you have any interest in learning more than just a gawp and some basic English by a Khmer tuk tuk driver (though Cambodians generally do try a lot harder and speak better English than do the generality of Thais - Thai hookers excepted!).

The Angkor park fee is $25 per person for a one day pass and $40 if you want a 2 day or 3 day pass. My advice for a first time visit would be to start early and do a whole day with lots of breaks for food and drinks. It will start getting hot again soon.The park fee bill starts to rack up if you have a big party and you stay more than a day. Luckily food and booze is cheap as chips in the evening at SR. Hotels are also very good value in Cambodia.

Phil Harries was right about it being worthwhile to go onto Phnom Penh and possibly Sihanoukville but he got the timing of SR to PP a little on the optimistic side (unless he was talking about walking to the airport then catching a plane!). The buses (Mekong Express is appreciably the best but costs 25% more than others) advertise a 5 hour journey and usually take 6 to 7. PP to Sihanoukville can be up to 5 hours in the PP rush hour (but that's being picky). Intercity buses are not driven by revved up narcotic freaks like you-know-where. Roads between all the main cities and between cities and borders are generally well paved. Anyone who last went 3 years ago will be misinformed on road status as they have spent a lot in recent years on improving the main drags. Most roads are however narrowish 2-laners and agricultural traffic keeps average speeds down.

Talking about people being misinformed because things have improved (which may explain some of the apparent inconsistencies in the responses you are getting on this thread) I had heard that Poipet border scams were also becoming a thing of the past but I have no personal knowledge there. Living in Issaan we benefit from the convenient Choam Sa Ngam or Chong Jom borders. No visa hassles/scammers at the border, just $20 and a quick process.

Check out www.canbypublications.com. Has really useful info on the cities, hotels, restaurants and the journeys through the main borders and to the big three cities of SR, PP and Sihanoukville, including public bus schedules.

Edited by SantiSuk
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To the OP:

You say "It will be my first time to Cambodia (apart from 1 hour in a casino on a visa run). . . . I 'm not sure how to go about getting a visa for Cambodia, what do you recomend? Is it possble to get a visa on arrival at Aranyaprathet?" Are you saying that you made a visa run to Cambodia and did not get a visa to enter Cambodia, just cleared Thai immigration and went to a casino in Cambodia before reaching immigration for 1 hour and came back? I have been told that you must clear immigration in Cambodia before returning to Thailand, as I have always (about 4 times) done. And I thought that the Thai immigration folks were checking my passport for the Cambodian entry/exit stamps, but perhaps they were looking in my passport for other things. If the Cambodia visa and entry/exit stamps are not necessary to come back into Thailand, I and I am sure others would like to know. Thanks,

Posted

To the OP:

You say "It will be my first time to Cambodia (apart from 1 hour in a casino on a visa run). . . . I 'm not sure how to go about getting a visa for Cambodia, what do you recomend? Is it possble to get a visa on arrival at Aranyaprathet?" Are you saying that you made a visa run to Cambodia and did not get a visa to enter Cambodia, just cleared Thai immigration and went to a casino in Cambodia before reaching immigration for 1 hour and came back? I have been told that you must clear immigration in Cambodia before returning to Thailand, as I have always (about 4 times) done. And I thought that the Thai immigration folks were checking my passport for the Cambodian entry/exit stamps, but perhaps they were looking in my passport for other things. If the Cambodia visa and entry/exit stamps are not necessary to come back into Thailand, I and I am sure others would like to know. Thanks,

Posted

Wow. Where do I begin? The amount of misinformation that has been posted here is mind boggling.

First of all, as of a couple of months ago, Thais are now visa exempt to enter Cambodia to a maximum of fourteen days. They still need a passport to enter, but no need to get a visa.

Visa on arrival: so long as you do not get suckered into buying an over-priced visa at the bogus "Cambodian Consulate" which is located in Thailand before you've even been stamped out of Thailand... and ask yourself why am I buying a visa on arrival when I haven't arrived yet... you won't get scammed now. The correct Visa on arrival building is located on Cambodian soil. AFTER you've been stamped OUT of Thailand you walk a hundred meters or so and over the small bridge that crosses a garbage strewn creek that divides the two countries. You pass a health screening station where they may try to get you to waste time filling out a form saying you're not sick ... no you do not give them any money for anything here... then cross the street and enter the new building on the right. Inside they give visas for $20 US (about 600 THB). They are more than happy to settle for a 100 THB tip on top of the $20. The process takes only a few minutes and you will hardly delay anybody.

Angkor tickets for one day are $20 not $25 as someone said above.

Flying to Phnom Penh and taking a bus up to Siem Reap:

Since the road from the border to Siem Reap is now finished, this is a complete waste of time and money. You can take a taxi from BKK to the border, get through immigration, and then take another taxi from the border to Siem Reap and knock off the entire journey in six hours and pay about $120-130 combined. My personal record door to door from an apartment in the Suanphlu area of BKK to the front door of my business/home in Siem Reap is five hours and twenty minutes.

An a.m. flight from Suvarbabhumi to PP, and a bus to Siem Reap will take in the neighborhood of ten hours and with four people cost much much more than the overland trip.

Taxis from the border to Siem Reap:

Taxis from the official stand to Siem Reap - this involves the shuttle bus at the border - should cost you no more than $48. You will however be dropped in the middle of nowhere and have to fight with tuk-tuk drivers for the last 5 km into town - free ride, sir, yes, free. Oh you don't go to my brother's guesthouse, okay I charge you $5, what you don't hire me for Angkor, okay $5 then. It's a hassle, but you'd get that coming off a bus from Phnom Penh as well. There are a handful of guesthouses in Siem Reap that will pick you up at the border for around $45 and get you transported to their front door so you can skip the song and dance with the tuk-tuks and also reduce your scam exposure at the border to almost zero. Two Dragons Guesthouse is one that does and its got an American/Thai operation that might make your companions happy.

The buses to Siem Reap from Poi Pet are pretty good. A cab in which they will cram 4 passengers (plus the driver) is $25 per person. As I recall, the but is $9.00. The last bus to Siem Reap leaves Poi Pet at about 2:00, so you will need to arrive in Aranyaprethet by about noon to get the bus.

Buses aren't that good - they are exclusively backpacker scam buses. Taxis are not $25 per person, but $48 per car (though touts may try to up the price). Last bus does not leave at 2 pm, it leaves when the last backpacker is loaded on.

If you book hotel or guest house in Siam Reap, they should be able to collect you at Poipet for 25 USD for 1 car. Journey tales 1 hour 30 mins max.

More like two hours. It's 155 km, ninety minutes is a highway to hell (or heaven). $25 seems highly optimistic given the backhanders that have to paid at the border to make pick-ups. Taxis operating *legally* have to pay $10 per car back to the "Association".

Posted (edited)

Thai citizens do need a visa for Cambodia. You can get these on the internet (as advised above) for 25 USD each (approx 750 baht).

Beware though, as some Cambodian land border officials can make life difficult, for obvious reasons, as there is quite a difference between 1200 bt and 750 bt. They will accept your e-visa eventually, but bring a good book to read, while you are waiting.

If you book hotel or guest house in Siam Reap, they should be able to collect you at Poipet for 25 USD for 1 car. Journey tales 1 hour 30 mins max.

In my experience, crossing the border at Poipet takes about 1 hour. Please also double check your own Thai status, as Thai Immigration may ask to see a copy of your Thai exit air ticket, depending on the type of Thai visa you have.

AS of Dec 18th THAI passpoprt holders DO NOT need a visa to enter Camboida as long as their stay is less than 14 days. If they stay longer they need a visa. Easy to get at te border and govement price is $20 US (not thai baht)They will otherwise take 1,000 baht ( $33) LOL

Angkor Tickets are $20/day or $40 for a three day pass. Arrive at the entrance after 4 pm and u can get in for a free sunset and ur pass starts the next day (on a 3 day visit)

Tuk tuk will cost you $15-20/day and thta is ALL day. He will pick ya up at 5am so u cna catch the sunset, take ya back and forth to your hotel ( so u can rest up during the day) return for sunset, Back to hotel than he will return and take ya out to where u want to go.

Great deal and forget about a bicycle ( its to dam hot and Angkor complex is huge.

Phnom Penh is a great place for a few days. I spent over 10 months there in 2008/09 and loved it. Small easy city to get around but not much to do beyond 2 days.

Edited by phuketrichard
Posted

Thai citizens do need a visa for Cambodia. You can get these on the internet (as advised above) for 25 USD each (approx 750 baht).

Beware though, as some Cambodian land border officials can make life difficult, for obvious reasons, as there is quite a difference between 1200 bt and 750 bt. They will accept your e-visa eventually, but bring a good book to read, while you are waiting.

If you book hotel or guest house in Siam Reap, they should be able to collect you at Poipet for 25 USD for 1 car. Journey tales 1 hour 30 mins max.

In my experience, crossing the border at Poipet takes about 1 hour. Please also double check your own Thai status, as Thai Immigration may ask to see a copy of your Thai exit air ticket, depending on the type of Thai visa you have.

While Thai citizens do not need a visa for Cambodia any more, I recommend the e-visa for Westerners. It will cost you US$ 25 on the internet instead of the US$ 20 for the visa on arrival, but it saves you some waiting and filling in of paperwork. Some people may say the delay is minimal, but for me the extra US$ 5 are worth it to just breeze through passport control.

Posted

Just remember that the e-visa will commit you to crossing into Cambodia at the most commonly used border points (PP & Siem Reap airports, Poipet, Koh Kong and Bavet (Svay Rieng)). This will be fine for most travelers though as the majority of visitors pass through this entry points.

Tourists should also keep in mind that some border crossings back into Thailand demand to see documentation of an onward air ticket out of Thailand.

Posted

Just remember that the e-visa will commit you to crossing into Cambodia at the most commonly used border points (PP & Siem Reap airports, Poipet, Koh Kong and Bavet (Svay Rieng)). This will be fine for most travelers though as the majority of visitors pass through this entry points.

Tourists should also keep in mind that some border crossings back into Thailand demand to see documentation of an onward air ticket out of Thailand.

In the e-visa application, you will actually have to fill in the border check-point you will be using to enter the country, and the date (and flight number in case of arrival by air). However, this can be amended online if you change your travel details after the visa has been issued. I have used the e-visa for entering by land via Poi Pet, and by air via Phnom Penh. Smooth and trouble-free.

Posted

Crossed into Cambodia by Aranyaprathet-Poipet in the late morning on Sunday Jan 9, and no major problems whatsoever.

The day before we took a bus from Ekkamai station to Aran and stayed overnight at Aran Gardens 2.

The next morning, a tuktuk to the border point (80 baht if I remember correctly). We filled out all the forms, paid 20 USD and 100 baht, didn't see any of the hordes of beggars, 3-hour waiting lines or major scammers mentioned on the Internet.

On the Cambodian side, we took the free shuttle bus to a bus station where haggling for a cab began. They wanted us to change money into riels but we already knew that was useless because dollars are everywhere.

For the cab to Angkor - an unmarked Toyota Camry like 80 percent of cars in Cambodia - they charged 48 USD. Finding a German couple to share, that meant 12 USD a person. Once we arrived in Siem Reap, they provided us with free tuktuk to our end destination, a hotel a couple of km outside the city.

Conclusion: no major hassle if you're well prepared, still, a flight would have been faster and more comfortable.

Posted

Crossed into Cambodia by Aranyaprathet-Poipet in the late morning on Sunday Jan 9, and no major problems whatsoever.

The day before we took a bus from Ekkamai station to Aran and stayed overnight at Aran Gardens 2.

The next morning, a tuktuk to the border point (80 baht if I remember correctly). We filled out all the forms, paid 20 USD and 100 baht, didn't see any of the hordes of beggars, 3-hour waiting lines or major scammers mentioned on the Internet.

On the Cambodian side, we took the free shuttle bus to a bus station where haggling for a cab began. They wanted us to change money into riels but we already knew that was useless because dollars are everywhere.

For the cab to Angkor - an unmarked Toyota Camry like 80 percent of cars in Cambodia - they charged 48 USD. Finding a German couple to share, that meant 12 USD a person. Once we arrived in Siem Reap, they provided us with free tuktuk to our end destination, a hotel a couple of km outside the city.

Conclusion: no major hassle if you're well prepared, still, a flight would have been faster and more comfortable.

Thanks for a positive report.

However, I'm not sure from your report whether you had a visa (from embassy or internet?) or applied for visa on arrival.

Posted

The link http://www.mfaic.gov.kh/evisa/ doesn't work but you can try this one:

http://www.cambodiaonarrival.com/ The cost is $30 ($20 for visa & $10 service fee)

I was just in Phnom Penh a few weeks ago & they are quite efficient at processing visa-on-arrival. The main advantage I believe to the E-visa is you don't get a page taken up in your passport.

The first link (the official one) works over here.

  • 4 months later...
Posted

Phil Harris is correct. Many other posts here are not. Thai citizens do need a visa to enter Cambodia, except to visit the casinos, which can be done on a border pass. A visa at the Cambodia Poi Pet border (if you get it at the Government visa office at the border is US$20 -- in DOLLARS! They take Dollars if you have them. If you don't have a $20 bill, you will pay more, so carry a $20 for each person entering Cambodia. The Cambodian immigration officers will ask for an extra B100, which I sometime pay and sometime I don't. They don't press the issue, but paying it will speed up the process. The buses to Siem Reap from Poi Pet are pretty good. A cab in which they will cram 4 passengers (plus the driver) is $25 per person. As I recall, the but is $9.00. The last bus to Siem Reap leaves Poi Pet at about 2:00, so you will need to arrive in Aranyaprethet by about noon to get the bus. There are a lot of scammers at the border, so be careful. Many will press you to use them to get the Cambodian visa (some say you need to get it at their place (on the Thai side)), and if you do it will cost you B1000 to B1200 (as stated above), But if you get it after you have cleared Thai immigration, at the Government office it is pretty straight forward -- US$20 bill and "maybe" an extra B100. A tuk tuk at Siem Reap is $15 (or can be negotiated to that) and the one day pass to see the temples is $20 or $25, I don't recall precisely. The tuk tuk drivers are very good and can tell you and show you a lot. I saw all I wanted to see from 9 am to 1:30, by then I was "templed out". The Pub Street area is ok, 2 nights in Siem Reap is plenty -- definitely some good crafts and art in Cambodia. I would definitely go on to Phnom Penh from Siem Reap, only 4 hours, and on to Sihanoukville from there, only another 4 hours -- both well worth seeing (I like both better than Siem Reap). I would come back from Sihanoukville via Koh Kong and on to Pattaya or Bangkok. Koh Kong is a good 1 night stop, really good food. I did the trip I outlined in November in 11 days, 3,3,3. and 2 days on each end for travel. Enjoy your trip and safe travels.

all correct except for taxi prices...I was in Poipet late 2010..if you go to the bus stand, DO NOT GO INSIDE, nor pay the prices written in English that they scam everyone for. Stand across the street and a taxi driver will find you. Tell him that you want to share, if you are alone, they will find the 3 other passengers. It doesn't cost $25 per person, it costs 1000 baht for the whole taxi, 250 baht each. And when you get to Siem Reap and the taxi stops on the outskirts and a tuk tuk driver appears telling you that taxis aren't allowed into the center of town, tell him to bugger off and stay in the taxi.

  • 1 year later...
Posted

Not sure why you have revived an 18 month old topic to ask this, but:-

Yes, there is always a risk that you passport will be copied or stolen if you are stupid enough to give it to anyone who is not an immigration official or or other person who has a legitimate reason for requiring it.

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