orang37 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Sawasdee Khrup, TV CM Friends, Amongst the serious topics, such as discussion of a one-hundred meter stretch of a Chiang Mai street, named Loy Kroh, is there a place for something as trivial as finding two 15 oz. (475g.) cans of imported baked beans on two-for-one sale ? Purchased today at Rimping Nawarat. Reading the label shows that Amy's is located in Petaluma, Californai in the U.S. Petaluma has quite an interesting history: a lot of socialists moved there in the previous century, and it's quite famous for giant chicken and turkey farms. In the 1960's a helicopter made a forced landing in the middle of a turkey farm, and the turkeys, easily "spooked," stampeded; over twenty-thousand were reported dead. Every time we find a two-for-one sale, we take it personally; do you ? bon apetit, ~o:37; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 A can each.....as if there isn't enough hotair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Why not just buy beans in a market and bake yourself a boatload? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetX Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) I grew up in Petaluma but I do not eat Amy's Baked Beans What is a socialist? The one thing I learned in graduate school for my policsci degree was that labels are really only used by news outlets and politicians for the sole purpose of dividing the masses because no one has a clue what they really mean Edited May 19, 2011 by PlanetX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicksal37 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Good answer W.T.K but I do not have the recipe to cook them.I would love to do that but how? Can you freeze them? I don't have a cannery in my condo.What type of beans do I buy? Any info would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 I grew up in Petaluma but I do not eat Amy's Baked Beans What is a socialist? The one thing I learned in graduate school for my policsci degree was that labels are really only used by news outlets and politicians for the sole purpose of dividing the masses because no one has a clue what they really mean Sawasdee Khrup, Khun PlanetX, Congratulations on your choice of parents and childhood. Bet your early years had enough turkey so you didn't grow up stunted. We really liked, long ago, passing through Petaluma on the way to Calistoga, and trying to imagine the helicopter and the turkeys. A capitalist is someone who believes in the exploitation of workers for personal gain, a socialist is the reverse. regards, ~o37; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetX Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I grew up in Petaluma but I do not eat Amy's Baked Beans What is a socialist? The one thing I learned in graduate school for my policsci degree was that labels are really only used by news outlets and politicians for the sole purpose of dividing the masses because no one has a clue what they really mean Sawasdee Khrup, Khun PlanetX, Congratulations on your choice of parents and childhood. Bet your early years had enough turkey so you didn't grow up stunted. We really liked, long ago, passing through Petaluma on the way to Calistoga, and trying to imagine the helicopter and the turkeys. A capitalist is someone who believes in the exploitation of workers for personal gain, a socialist is the reverse. regards, ~o37; I throroughly enjoy reading your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Getting back to the OP's topic -- this is great news. I'll have to hussle over to my favorite Rim Ping ASAP. I love baked beans and don't like fixing them "from scratch" here -- it heats up the place too much to do the necessary slow cooking. Instead, I can take canned baked beans and "doctor them up" (my dear departed mother's words) with brown sugar, mustard, onion and pieces of ham to make an entree for dinner. Amy's has a great reputation in the U.S. for high quality, organic food. Thanks for the heads-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishenough Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 A capitalist is someone who believes in the exploitation of workers for personal gain, a socialist is the reverse. regards, ~o37; Wow. Honestly never heard that explained, in so few words, yep - that pretty much covers it. As a frequent baker of beans I have 3 suggestions; add garlic and onion, to the boiling of the beans - this softens the skins a little extra and reduces bitterness of the skin alone, never use the cheap molasses available as you'll likely throw out the finished batch, and a little bacon goes along. Really in decades of serving beans: no bacon, it's eaten without comment, with bacon, it's plenty of yums and requests for seconds. And it's not the size of bean that matters, it's what you do with it that counts. Only discussion is tomato or no tomato; use tomato you can skip the mustard no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMX Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Speaking of brown sugar, how badly are Amy's Baked Beans pre-sweetened? Sugar is my enemy, though I love onions with baked beans, which lend a sweeter result, to me. Touch of mustard too, though Carrefour's Dijon seems gone for good. Speaking of Big C (Capitalism rampant), I realize that most production beans eliminate the gas, but if it is not gas that is lending itself to our fantastic explanations of politics, is it California's "baking" climate (S, Central Valley, Desert) - or educational establishment? Efficient creation and accumulation (capitalism) of beans is one thing, distribution of them something else. I would not know what to do with billions of cases of Amy's beans, but wouldn't want to be without a bean either. But perhaps I digress. Is Amy's innocent of bacon and other fats as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I grew up in Petaluma but I do not eat Amy's Baked Beans What is a socialist? The one thing I learned in graduate school for my policsci degree was that labels are really only used by news outlets and politicians for the sole purpose of dividing the masses because no one has a clue what they really mean I didn't grow up in Petaluma bit was fed on Baked Beans at least twice a week in England. These days I buy them from Rimping which seems to be the connection that keeps this thread running, but my teachings about Socialism were similar to yours. People who believe that a 'Socialist' is the opposite to a 'Capitalist' are blinded in some way. After all; Strauss-Khan is supposed to be a leading Socialist and he owns several homes in various glamorous Cities around the World and was recently staying in a $3,000 a night hotel in Manhatton. Isn't this much more like a 'Capitalist' would be living? Divide the people enough and they will believe anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMX Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) I grew up in Petaluma but I do not eat Amy's Baked Beans What is a socialist? The one thing I learned in graduate school for my policsci degree was that labels are really only used by news outlets and politicians for the sole purpose of dividing the masses because no one has a clue what they really mean I didn't grow up in Petaluma bit was fed on Baked Beans at least twice a week in England. These days I buy them from Rimping which seems to be the connection that keeps this thread running, but my teachings about Socialism were similar to yours. People who believe that a 'Socialist' is the opposite to a 'Capitalist' are blinded in some way. After all; Strauss-Khan is supposed to be a leading Socialist and he owns several homes in various glamorous Cities around the World and was recently staying in a $3,000 a night hotel in Manhatton. Isn't this much more like a 'Capitalist' would be living? Divide the people enough and they will believe anything. Socialist Party in France, of course, has many fragments. Coalescing the French about any political issue is akin to mixing oil and water; turn away for a minute, and there they are again, except striated into dozens of layers. Generalizing about French thinking in politics is, as they say, complicated. Certainly "capitalists" and "socialists" differ, but in different ways according to the nation and date. Nor are they opposites. As I suggested above, the first stress production of wealth (using private structures), the second distribution (using democratically elected public structures). I do not think that this notion is full of beans (smelly gas), perhaps and maybe. Far more important, however, is the nature of Amy's Beans' contents. >Sugars? Fats? Of course, if the labels are western and in English, I can find out myself before the sale sails. Off I go. Edited May 20, 2011 by CMX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) I grew up in Petaluma but I do not eat Amy's Baked Beans What is a socialist? The one thing I learned in graduate school for my policsci degree was that labels are really only used by news outlets and politicians for the sole purpose of dividing the masses because no one has a clue what they really mean Sawasdee Khrup, Khun PlanetX, Congratulations on your choice of parents and childhood. Bet your early years had enough turkey so you didn't grow up stunted. We really liked, long ago, passing through Petaluma on the way to Calistoga, and trying to imagine the helicopter and the turkeys. A capitalist is someone who believes in the exploitation of workers for personal gain, a socialist is the reverse. regards, ~o37; Erm, so a Socialist believes in the exploitation of workers for personal loss? Oh btw Macros does canned Baked Beans (imported) much cheaper than 161Baht for two. Edited May 20, 2011 by wolf5370 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garycm Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 A can each.....as if there isn't enough hotair. maybe that's why the brand Amy has vegetarian products only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansai Sam Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Amazing how a post on Thavisa can go from baked beans to socialism so fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Amazing how a post on Thavisa can go from baked beans to socialism so fast! Baked Beas - Farts - Hot Air - Politics - Seems a fairly direct line to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMX Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 OK, OK, I observe that Amy's Organic, Vegetarian, Baked Beans (imported from Petaluma, California) are hard to find at the Rimping North, but appear healthy to eat as prepared stuff goes: Fat = .5gms, or 1% of suggested daily intake Sodium = 20% of suggested daily intake (which is not awful for prepared foods, I guess) Calories = 120 However, this is a 425 gram tin, or 15 ounces, which they reckon to include 3.5 servings somehow; each of us gets 121.4 gms. Think I'll fill it out with onions, bell pepper (undercooked, for crunch), Thai ground pepper, more garlic, and touch of mustard (dry?) to taste. PS Either the sale is over or not being offered at Mee Chok; I was charged 232 baht for the 2. Eternal vigilance is the price of economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Sawasdee Khrup, TV CM Baked Bean Fellow Traveller, and Card Carrying, Party Members, @All: We've tried the low-cost canned "Ayam" beans here, and found them very boring. Amy's bean have the "official Pareve" logo, so we assume they are Kosher. @Khun CMX: What's left of our taste-buds (very little) say Amy's rather sweet on the first date, in spite of an apparently low sugar content. The beans are also much firmer than expected, but we'll delay a conclusion until the second-date. Rimping Nawarat has always been so prompt in finding things for us, or advising us, of availability of certain items when they come in stock; we'd wager that if you pointed-out to the folks at Mee Chok what the Nawarat special was they would match the price ... maybe ? Your plans for rounding out the beans with onions, bell peppers, garlic, and mustard sound great, but where's the blackstrap molasses, and the ham-hock ? Yes, the salt content does seem a bit high, but our taste perception of salt is so distorted (as in amplified) that many things seem excessively salty to us when they are, in fact, not. Sugar content of 9 grams per serving seems also high. But total calories from fat listed as #5, #120 calories, per serving. "Is Amy's innocent of bacon and other fats as well?:" According to the label, no meat, but there is a warning note about food allergies that states they do prepare their foods in kitchens where soy, wheat, milk, tree nuts, and seeds, are used, but do not use peanuts, fish, shellfish, or eggs. All vegetables are listed as organic, including the cane used for sugar. @Khun NancyL: Indeed, the baked-beans my human meat-package consumed in quantity, from larval to adult gadfly form were always heavy on ham-bone fat, molasses, plus brown sugar, and sweet Visalia, or red, onions were de rigeur, in season. Wonder what would be the right "cut" or bone of pig to ask for here if you were going to make them yourself and organic-be-damned ? We're not on-purpose vegetarians. @Khun FishEnough: Thanks for your cooking tips ! Wonder if finding a cheap blackstrap (true third distillate) molasses is possible here. If we had the taste-buds left, we'd be cooking our own baked beans, and adding in a fiery "Chinese" style mustard, or horseradish, for a real nasal-cleansing afterglow, as well as some parts of pig. @Khun Trainman34014 and Khun Wolfe5370: We were leaning sideways on the old joke that goes: "What's the difference between Capitalism and Communism: 'Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man: Communism is the reverse'," which has been attributed to John Gardner, author of the "James Bond" novels: recommendation: skip Gardner, and go directly to Le Carre, who, ioho, transcends the "spy genre" he's so often type-cast in. Bon Appétit, ~o:37; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 However, this is a 425 gram tin, or 15 ounces, which they reckon to include 3.5 servings somehow; each of us gets 121.4 gms. Think I'll fill it out with onions, bell pepper (undercooked, for crunch), Thai ground pepper, more garlic, and touch of mustard (dry?) to taste. PS Either the sale is over or not being offered at Mee Chok; I was charged 232 baht for the 2. Eternal vigilance is the price of economy. 232 baht for almost a kilo of quality baked beans is not unreasonable, although it is a day's wage for many in this country. To your excellent recipe, may I suggest to add a small clove of minced garlic in the fry? Also, for a little extra crunch, a small amount of chopped, uncooked onions before serving. Serve on thin imported (from Scandinavia, natch) cracker of choice, preferably rye crackers. The final cost would make a socialist shudder, but only if one assumes Socialism is about spreading the poverty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 orang - "giant chicken and turkey farms". I know everything is bigger in the USA - but just HOW big were these giant chicken's and turkey's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 orang - "giant chicken and turkey farms". I know everything is bigger in the USA - but just HOW big were these giant chicken's and turkey's? I was once invited to a thanksgiving dinner at a private residence in the US and when I looked at the size of the Turkey that had been prepared I genuinely thought it was an Emu or Ostrich ! Never seen anything like that size in Europe so them US Turkey's is big ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 orang - "giant chicken and turkey farms". I know everything is bigger in the USA - but just HOW big were these giant chicken's and turkey's? On everything in the US being big: A Texas rancher visits an Israeli Kibbutz and surprised at how small it is, says: "you know, back home at my ranch, I get in my car at sunup and drive in a straight line till sunset and I'd still be on my ranch." "I know what you mean," said the Israeli, " I once had a car like that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 orang - "giant chicken and turkey farms". I know everything is bigger in the USA - but just HOW big were these giant chicken's and turkey's? Sun Village, Palmdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) orang - "giant chicken and turkey farms". I know everything is bigger in the USA - but just HOW big were these giant chicken's and turkey's? Sawasdee Khrup, Khun UpTheos, Wish we could tell you, but all we remember is that its giant shadow blocked out the sun, and before our human eyes could adjust, it had crapped on us, and we were struggling to swim to the surface. We complained to the farmers, Papa Gog and Ma Gog, but they were too busy doing the polka to this: : they could well have been deaf from the gobble-gobbles. We decided to absquatulate before our own hearing was destroyed even though that meant messing up the pilot's seat of our dirigible real bad. best, ~o:37; Edited May 21, 2011 by orang37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 orang - "giant chicken and turkey farms". I know everything is bigger in the USA - but just HOW big were these giant chicken's and turkey's? Sawasdee Khrup, Khun UpTheos, Wish we could tell you, but all we remember is that its giant shadow blocked out the sun, and before our human eyes could adjust, it had crapped on us, and we were struggling to swim to the surface. We complained to the farmers, Papa Gog and Ma Gog, but they were too busy doing the polka to this: : they could well have been deaf from the gobble-gobbles. We decided to absquatulate before our own hearing was destroyed even though that meant messing up the pilot's seat of our dirigible real bad. best, ~o:37; You had a dirigible...That is the problem. They thought you had stolen one of their eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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