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[danielrhodes999]

Hello

This question has already probably been answered on here a million times.

I am 29 years old from West Yorkshire England. I went on holiday to Thailand on the 5th May and met the most beautiful girl I have ever seen, I was on holiday for a week but stayed an extra week as we got on so well. We really didn't want to leave each other and dare I say it we fell in love.

We have been messaging and skyping all day everyday talking a lot about the future i.e children even marriage!!!!!!!!! I really want to be with this girl and she feels the exact same.

I am going back to Thailand on the 30th June to stay with her for one week at her families home in Saraburi which I am very excited about, we may then go on and spend a week in Phuket together. We have also spoke about her coming to stay at my house in UK for a short time to see what she thinks of England (and the rubbish weather!!!!! haha).

Please could you advise me on what I need to do if she would like to stay for a few month? Do I need to tell anyone?

Best Wishes

Daniel Rhodes

[kunash]

hi.

i am sure someone more knowledgebale will give you a better reply, but i will get the ball rolling.

if you wish your girlfriend to come to the UK your girlfriend will need to apply for a visitor visa to come and see you. you can sponsor her, which means you must have the necessary finances to support her for her time in the UK. you will also need to provide her with suitable accomodation. are you working? your mum or dad could also sponsor her if you do not have the finances or accomodation.

you will need to show the ECO ( visa man ) your relationship is genuine. there is no minimum period of time you must ''going out'' with each other. keep all your photos and plane tickets, hotel reservations for you and her, and keep your chat logs. take some photos with her family.

you mentioned you would like her to come to the UK for a few months. does she have a job in thailand? is her employer happy to give her such a long holiday? in the visa application your girlfriend will need to show she has reason to return to thailand. a job is a good reason, and also to study. or property possibly. her reason to return is an important part of the application

Good Luck

[bellboy86]

You stated that u went to Thailand on the 5th of may, so you known this girl just under 3 weeks , although there no set time of knowing someone I would say the visa man will look at the application and possibly refuse, I would suggest that you slow down a bit, I didn't apply for my wife's first visa until I had knowing her for 2 years, this gave me time to get to know her and also gather evidence I'n order for us to apply for a visa chill out and if it's ment to be then it will happen, however I would say far too early to start thinking about visas I may be wrong. Good luck

[theoldgit]

Daniel, Indeed this question is asked, and answered, on a regular basis, maybe not a million times, but not far short.

Kanush has given you some good advice and makes some valid points whilst bellboy86 is trying to give you a reality check.

The first place to look for advice on procedure's is the VFS website http://www.vfs-uk-th.com/ also trawl through this forum where there is some good advice from a number of people who have been through this process, some experts and even some professionals.

Adding to the advice from Kanush, your girlfriend needs to convince the ECO, Entry Clearance Officer, that her proposed trip is genuine and affordable and that she is likely to conform to the the visa rules and leave the UK at the conclusion of her trip.

If your girlfriend has a job or her own means she doesn't need sponsorship, she just needs to prove that she can afford the trip and that she is likely to return home at the conclusion.

If you are going to pay for the trip then you will need to convince the ECO that it's reasonable for you to do so, evidence of your relationship etc., then proof that you can afford it, details of your income and bank statements.

Your girlfriend will need to convince the ECO that it's a genuine visit and that she has a good reason to return, as has already been pointed out how many people have a job that allows her to go on holiday for a few months?

I really think you and your girlfriend need to take stock, have a read of the VFS website and this forum, if you think you still want to go ahead then that's what you do, if you are still not sure then come back, give some background details and people will try and advise you.

Good luck

[ThaiVisaExpress]

I would suggest you must know each other a minimum of 6 months unless :

• She is self sufficient
• Employed
• Immigration/travel history

As I don't know about her personal history all I can go on is my experience of the visa system.

An example of the ECO recent refusal

You have met your sponsor however your relationship is in its early stages you have a few emails/phone records other than that you have little evidence to demonstrate your relationship is genuine. You are also unemployed with little or no assets or ties to your host country.

The applicant had known her 3 months had he walked in my office I would have said come back in 6 months. We process around 100 + applications a year and we deal with this scenario all the time my advice is visit again and let your relationship mature a little.

Do not fall into the trap of visiting a rogue agency with false promises of visas in 4 weeks you will find it a very costly experience.

[meatboy]

you need to slow down and dont get up your hopes to much or you can end up like 90% of first time visitors to thailand,first i will tell you some negative advice and then some positive,you will get a lot of negative replies because we all done the same,after 28 years i can tell you and others will dont believe everything what your gf has told you or you could end up heartbroken,keep your money in your pocket dont send her any never mind what she says,you say you are going back soon and hope she can go back with you,you have been told allready to exspect she will not get a visa,you will definately wont have been the first farang she has met,and she might have children as well,we have all been through this so it happens mayby a thousand times a day.i will try and give you some positive answers but because you have only just met there is not much to give you,when you go back take it easy unless you have access to a large amount of money enjoy the time you spend together and treat her to some nice clothes and food if she is genuine you will soon know,like i said we have all been through this so its your learning time about thailand.read all the forums on all subjects then take a realality check,i have been happilly married over 20years but it took me 4years to find her and yes i have been through it all so take all the advice you are given and good luck.

[theoldgit]

Some very good advice from 'meatboy', please don't take it personally, there are many of us that have "been there, got the t-shirt" and have now moved on, a number of us have had our fingers burned both emotionally and financially.

Please listen to all the advice you are given here, most of which is given in good faith, don't rush into anything and in the fullness of time if you are really sure then follow your heart and go for it, I have already offered advice about how to proceed, and I'm sure many others will add their own experience and advice.

[wandrinstar]

Another Lamb to the Slaughter.When will they ever Learn. Hire n Fire Lad.

[slapout]

I would go with your plan, but change arrival date in Thailand, at her apartment/domicile to June 15 (unannounced) Pop into her place around 2000 with a box of chocolates and some champagne and take things as they happen.

[Contractor]

OP, I think it will be at least 6 months before you have a chance of a succesful visitor's visa application. I waited over a year (with many trips back to Thailand in the meantime) before my (now) wife got her first visitor's visa - and she is university educated and had her own small business.

Listen to the advice on here and keep your expectations realistic.

Good luck.

[danielrhodes999]

Wow, many thanks for all the replies.

I really do appreciate the positives and also the negatives you guys have give me. I will take your advice and slow things down for a few month.

Would he still be aloud to come to england for a short holiday say 2-3 week with no visa?

[kennkate]

You have had a lot of good advise from posters I have been there and got the T Shirt

That is to say I did try for a visit visa back in 2007 for my then GF who is now my wife. Having Known her and been in Thailand with her for the best part of 4 months.

It was refused. "Reason to Return" was quoted as the reason for refusal.

I do think she would need a very good reason to return.in order to get a visitors visa

A good well paid job House and land in her name might help.

I know where you are coming from But dont waste your money on a small chance that you might get her a visa after such a short time of knowing her

Maybe another visit to Thailand and slow down.

And No she wont be able to just arrive in the UK without a Valid Visa

[theoldgit]

Would he still be aloud to come to england for a short holiday say 2-3 week with no visa?

No, she (I presume you mean she) would need a visa if she was there for twenty minutes.

[danielrhodes999]

Thanks again posters.

Im going to take your advice and slow things down I might spend amonth in Thailand with her and see how it goes.

Would things be different if we were married?

[bobrussell]

Thanks again posters.

Im going to take your advice and slow things down I might spend amonth in Thailand with her and see how it goes.

Would things be different if we were married?

Absolutely would be different if you are married but remember 'a wife is for life not just for Christmas'. Treat this as a holiday romance and slow things down a lot!

She may be perfect for you. If she is, she will understand and be patient. If she is being pushy enjoy the relationship but be extra cautious!

There are lots of nice girls in Thailand but take your time to see if she is one of them - no different to meeting a girl in the UK!

[danielrhodes999]

Thanks for that reply made me chuckle.

Really glad I came on this site, I have finally spoke to people that know what they are talking about and that can also relate to me.

Many many thanks and I will take your advice.

[aland2012]

Mate you have to slow down, and I know really inside your thinking " YES BUT SHE THIS, AND SHE SAID THAT, SHE LIKE NO OTHER WOMAN IVE EVER MET ".

But Brother this is Thailand, and all the woman are beautiful and kind, in there own way. You have to listen to everybody here, we are strangers to you, outsiders, and these people in life tend to give good anvice.

If this is really Love you are both feeling, then time will tell, and a Visa to the UK can wait. And the same with Marriage, there is alot for you too learn about Thailand and the girls, trust us.

Alan

[meatboy]

some really good advice tv.members with no bitterness,there are millions that have had the same feelings you have about her only to be dissapionted we oldies get wise the longer we live in thailand our tools stay where our brains tell us and our money,just give you some idea i went through £50k in just over 2years with nothing to show for it only a few t.shirts but i learned a lot,back in the 80s you had to find out the hard way,some harder than others who have been mentally scared for life,so if you suspect anything that she might not be honest be free to tell us.