British Citizenship

[scooty]

Hi All,

Basically i am after some confirmation that im doing the right thing.

My wife and i are filling in the form for British citizenship.Am i right in saying that if my wife needed the ESOL certificate with accompanying letter from a college to gain her ILR then we dont need to send this with our application ?

Advice will be greatlly appreciated as i dont fancy loosing my application fee.

Thanks all,

Regards

Scooty and wife.

[7by7]

From The documents we require

Evidence of knowledge of English and of life in the United Kingdom

If you are applying from within the United Kingdom, you should provide one of the following: (my emphasis)

• your certificate of progression from one English for Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL) level to another, with a letter from the college confirming you completed an ESOL with citizenship course; or
• your letter confirming you have passed the life in the UK test, stamped and signed by the test supervisor; or
• your confirmation that you met this requirement in order to obtain settlement.

You may want to consider Applying through the Nationality Checking Service (NCS)

[scooty]

From The documents we require

Evidence of knowledge of English and of life in the United Kingdom

If you are applying from within the United Kingdom, you should provide one of the following: (my emphasis)

• your certificate of progression from one English for Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL) level to another, with a letter from the college confirming you completed an ESOL with citizenship course; or
• your letter confirming you have passed the life in the UK test, stamped and signed by the test supervisor; or
• your confirmation that you met this requirement in order to obtain settlement.

You may want to consider Applying through the Nationality Checking Service (NCS)

Cheers 7by7,

i am looking at your list and i am going with the

"your confirmation that you met this requirement in order to obtain settlement"

In my opinion the fact that the wife has ILR stamped into her passport should be enough evidence as her stamp was given during the period of having to have the ESOL certificate.

I did call someone at the national check in service and i found that i had more knowledge than they did and i had to explain the rules to them which in turn put me off using them , id rather ask peoples advice on this website who have actually gone through the process.

Regards

Scooty

[7by7]

i am looking at your list and i am going with the

"your confirmation that you met this requirement in order to obtain settlement"

In my opinion the fact that the wife has ILR stamped into her passport should be enough evidence as her stamp was given during the period of having to have the ESOL certificate.

Indeed, but I'd suggest she includes a brief confirmation of when and where she obtained the qualification.

I did call someone at the national check in service and i found that i had more knowledge than they did and i had to explain the rules to them...........

Why am I not surprised!?

[bobrussell]

Just use the golden rule for dealing with immigration related authorities 'if in doubt include it'. Within reason you cannot provide too much information!

Edited to add 'just don't expect common sense to be enough!'

[scooty]

i am looking at your list and i am going with the

"your confirmation that you met this requirement in order to obtain settlement"

In my opinion the fact that the wife has ILR stamped into her passport should be enough evidence as her stamp was given during the period of having to have the ESOL certificate.

Indeed, but I'd suggest she includes a brief confirmation of when and where she obtained the qualification.

I did call someone at the national check in service and i found that i had more knowledge than they did and i had to explain the rules to them...........

Why am I not surprised!?

Believe it or not i also called UK Border agency on the number given on the guide book and one worker told me that i had to have for eg. ESOL level 2 certificates and then had to show that my wife had progreesed a level by showing ESOL level 3 certificates as well . I stood my ground and told her she was totally wrong , she then went to the manager to ask advice and obviouslly she had to say she was wrong , absolutely incredible , she doesnt even know whats what, what chance have the rest of us got ?Now you see why id prefer to seek advice on this website.

BTW Bob , thats good advice cheers mate.

I wish everyone the best of luck with their applications.

Scooty