Amnesty Plan Not For Any Particular Individual: Pheu Thai

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Amnesty plan not for any particular individual : Yongyuth

By The Nation

Abhisit vows no let-off for Thaksin and no return of confiscated Bt46 bn

Pheu Thai's Yongyuth Wichaidit said yesterday an amnesty for a particular person was not the policy of his party - while Democrat Abhisit Vejjajiva vowed to enforce the law and provide no amnesty for fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

"May the Pheu Thai Party declare it never has a policy of amnesty. Neither party leader nor executive [members] ever talked about that. The remarks were by people who have no obligation to the party," Yongyuth said.

Prime-ministerial candidate Yingluck Shinawatra and the party would accept the result of a free and fair election and work on reconciliation as an urgent agenda.

Rebutting Yongyuth's claim, Abhisit said it was clear that Thaksin was linked to Pheu Thai and he was planning for an amnesty.

He referred to a message on Pheu Thai's posters that its policies were "Thaksin's ideas, Pheu Thai's actions." Thaksin, he said, certainly had a plan to get an amnesty for himself. Otherwise, he would not be able to return to Thailand later this year as he had announced.

"I disagree [with an amnesty for Thaksin], and I will not work on an amnesty for people convicted on corruption charges, and will definitely not return the Bt46 billion," Abhisit said, referring to Thaksin's funds seized by the government in early 2010 prior to the red-shirt protest.

Yongyuth and Abhisit were taking part in a debate among political party leaders held by the People's Network for Election in Thailand. They were also asked to talk about their party's policies on the economy, education, drug eradication, and on borders

and neighbouring countries.

Matubhum leader Sonthi Boonyaratglin stressed patriotism and putting public interest over personal ambition. Bhum Jai Thai's Supachai Jaisamut said his party would work on an amnesty for people abused by politicians who then joined political movements in recent years. He proposed protection of the constitutional monarchy as a common aim, so all people were united.

Chart Thai Pattana's No 6 party-list MP candidate Piyapan Jampasut promoted free and fair elections. He said politicians must stop attacking each other, support transparency in forming government, and set up a national reconciliation committee of stakeholders and neutral people.

Meanwhile, Chart Pattana Puea Pandin's no-4 party-list MP candidate Goanpot Asvinvichit said his party opposed polarisation and promoted economic opportunity and prosperity that would allow people to live happily together.

Agriculture and living costs

Sonthi said food exports and promoting of Thailand as the world's kitchen would lift product prices and allow Thais more income.

Goanpot proposed periodic egg imports, rice stock management, development of production mechanisms and the promotion of tourism.

Abhisit said he would move on with the farmers' income guarantee scheme and peg cooking gas and diesel prices and allow free imports of breeding chickens.

Piyapan said his party would offer subsidies for renting farm-land, while rice pledging and income guarantees for farmers would be available.

Supachai said his party would free people from debt with a maximum debt amount and waivers for debt to government Village Funds. He also proposed cutting VAT to 5 per cent.

Yongyuth said his party's credit cards for farmers, rice pledging, three-year break for debt payment and restructuring would solve problems.

Drug eradication

Yongyuth stressed education and a civic monitoring network. Schemes to rehabilitate drug addicts must be provided in all areas.

Besides a civil network joining hands with state officials, Abhisit emphasised stronger border protection to prevent drug smuggling. A consistent and systematic process to eradicate drugs was also needed.

Sonthi promoted law enforcement and education to reinforce people's sense of responsibility.

Supachai said penalties must be increased for smugglers and Thailand should join hands with neighbouring countries to eradicate drug sources.

Goanpot stressed reducing drug activity by increasing rehabilitation for addicts.

Piyapan proposed immediate, serious and harsh suppression of drug sources and smuggling routes.

Long term education policies

Goanpot proposed quality improvement as well as better education of students in foreign languages, information technology and trade.

Yongyuth referred to his party's policy to give away tablet PCs to students, increasing loans for education and teachers' job security.

Sonthi stressed students' experience and ability to use knowledge.

Supachai said education supplies must be increased including one computer for each student in classrooms. Teachers' income must be increased.

Piyapan said his party would lift teachers' quality and standard of living. Abhisit referred to his party's 15 years of free education as well as increasing education loans and improving the quality of teachers.

Borders and neighbours

Supachai said Thailand should have a strong military and foreign policies while the government emphasises talks to end conflict.

Abhisit stressed the participation of people along the border in such policies, while Goanpot stressed trading promotion.

Piyapan said talks should be held on major problems, but they must protect Thai sovereignty.

Sonthi proposed having local people solve the problems of the restive South. Thailand should be friends with neighbouring countries so they could help each other on natural resources issues, he said.

-- The Nation 2011-06-24

[Siripon]

Ludicrous words from Yongyut, he seems to have forgotten the words of Chalerm who has proclaimed it is the party's intention to grant an amnesty to Thaksin.

And to be fair to Thaksin, he himself has told the reds to swallow their pain, in other words the proposed amnesty will let everyone be absolved, so forget any punishment regarding the deaths last April and May.

The little people served their perpose by dying for him- at whose hands we still don't know, and after that they are to be discarded, if that's the price to get Thaksin an amnesty.

[Buchholz]

Ludicrous words from Yongyut, he seems to have forgotten the words of Chalerm who has proclaimed it is the party's intention to grant an amnesty to Thaksin.

Agreed. Totally astounding comments:

"May the Pheu Thai Party declare it never has a policy of amnesty. Neither party leader nor executive [members] ever talked about that. The remarks were by people who have no obligation to the party," Yongyuth said.

AND...

it comes on the heels of the incredulous claim by Yingluck yesterday.

She added that her brother, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra had nothing do to with the red-shirt group

Ahhhh, back to Thaksin's own feeble denials... "I don't know them"

The PTP must have a very low opinion of their constituents to feed them this much manure.

[virtualtraveller]

Thakins Thinks (pardon), Puea Thai acts (on pardoning).

Their party policy in a nutshell.

[SomTumTiger]

Actually, I hope they do pardon Thaksin, Things have been a bit too boring around here. My wife is voting for Chuwit. She wants some entertainment from her politicians, and I'm hoping for "free soapies for everyone!" lol

[huanga]

Ludicrous words from Yongyut, he seems to have forgotten the words of Chalerm who has proclaimed it is the party's intention to grant an amnesty to Thaksin.

Agreed. Totally astounding comments:

"May the Pheu Thai Party declare it never has a policy of amnesty. Neither party leader nor executive [members] ever talked about that. The remarks were by people who have no obligation to the party," Yongyuth said.

AND...

it comes on the heels of the incredulous claim by Yingluck yesterday.

She added that her brother, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra had nothing do to with the red-shirt group

Ahhhh, back to Thaksin's own feeble denials... "I don't know them"

The PTP must have a very low opinion of their constituents to feed them this much manure.

All these comments show the actual ideology of PTP=Red Shirts is to follow where the "wind blows". If it's convenient and suit them, that's what they will say.

In my opinion, it's spineless. How can anyone trust these jellyfish to run a country?

All the policies are more likely to be empty promises it they don't suit PTP at that time. To me, that is "good at only talking"!

[animatic]

They open their mouths and we hear lies.

One follows the other like Winter follows Fall.

[Moruya]

They open their mouths and we hear lies.

One follows the other like Winter follows Fall.

Hit the nail on the head.

[phupaman]

Hi All.

It seems the only party leader to come out to oppose amnesty was k Abhisit it seems ALL the other parties are waiting to see what's on offer after the poll.

phupaman

[rubl]

"May the Pheu Thai Party declare it never has a policy of amnesty. Neither party leader nor executive [members] ever talked about that. The remarks were by people who have no obligation to the party," Yongyuth said.

True, true, oh so very true. Remarks by people who have no obligation to the party

2011-05-22 Yingluck puts Chalerm in charge of amnesty move

"Yingluck said the Pheu Thai Party, backed by fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra and the red shirts, would draft an amnesty bill under the stewardship of party-list MP candidate Chalerm Yoobamrung."

[hyperdimension]

It doesn't seem like there was any actual debate.

Did Abhisit challenge Yongyuth's statement that Pheu Thai "never has a policy of amnesty"? Did he refer to the news of Yingluck putting "Chalerm in charge of amnesty move"?

Did any of the debatees argue over anything?

Edited June 24, 2011 by hyperdimension

[ianbaggie]

Ludicrous words from Yongyut, he seems to have forgotten the words of Chalerm who has proclaimed it is the party's intention to grant an amnesty to Thaksin.

Agreed. Totally astounding comments:

"May the Pheu Thai Party declare it never has a policy of amnesty. Neither party leader nor executive [members] ever talked about that. The remarks were by people who have no obligation to the party," Yongyuth said.

AND...

it comes on the heels of the incredulous claim by Yingluck yesterday.

She added that her brother, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra had nothing do to with the red-shirt group

Ahhhh, back to Thaksin's own feeble denials... "I don't know them"

The PTP must have a very low opinion of their constituents to feed them this much manure.

If the PT threaten to machine gun their supporters after the election they will still vote for them

[metisdead]

A post trollish in nature has been removed. Let me remind all about the zero tolerance policy currently in place:

[maidu]

Ahhhh, back to Thaksin's own feeble denials... "I don't know them"

The PTP must have a very low opinion of their constituents to feed them this much manure.

If the PT threaten to machine gun their supporters after the election they will still vote for them

That's funny. One could add: The PT plans to give each person who votes for them a tractor, a gem studded phone (remember Oak's business?), a limitless credit card from the Shinawatre clan (yes, the only two c.card issuers are King Power and the Shinawatres), a laptop computer, and a buffalo with a saddle.

Then, if you don't vote for us at PT, your village gets no funding, you will be compelled to payback your loans tomorrow - or else lose your collateral (house and buffalo) to the company store, conveniently named: Shinawat Tax Free Store.

Our motto: We'll promise you anything, but we will wind up with your money, one way or another. Like it or we'll shoot your puppy.

[webfact]

related topic:

'No policy to give Thaksin amnesty'

Follow this link:

[Gonsalviz]

She added that her brother, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra had nothing do to with the red-shirt group

Ahhhh, back to Thaksin's own feeble denials... "I don't know them"

The PTP must have a very low opinion of their constituents to feed them this much manure.

All these comments show the actual ideology of PTP=Red Shirts is to follow where the "wind blows". If it's convenient and suit them, that's what they will say.

In my opinion, it's spineless. How can anyone trust these jellyfish to run a country?

All the policies are more likely to be empty promises it they don't suit PTP at that time. To me, that is "good at only talking"!

Careful, that applies to politicians everywhere.

I am still trying to figure why a platform of giving a "notebook PC' to every student is supposed to help the poor farmers of the northeast, etc when there is an almost total lack of formal education at all.

At the same time it would create economic havoc to raise workers wages 25% over 2 years. Still does not help the farmers and realistically cannot happen.

[metisdead]

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[maidu]

Some here have called politicians spineless and likened them to jellyfish.

I just got a memo from Jellyfish of the World union, and they're offended. They say, "keep it up, and you'll get stung next time you're in seawater."

[Buchholz]

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The Democrats have changed course a tad, and now want tooffer amnesty to more than 200 banned politicians, but of course not forThaksin Shinawatra.

Unlike Pheu Thai Party's flailing flip-flopping, the Democrats initiated a similar amnesty proposal in April 2009. It also covered the same areas for those to be granted amnesty and excluded the same areas, eg. criminal corruption cases.

Edited June 25, 2011 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

Ludicrous words from Yongyut, he seems to have forgotten the words of Chalerm who has proclaimed it is the party's intention to grant an amnesty to Thaksin.

Agreed. Totally astounding comments:

"May the Pheu Thai Party declare it never has a policy of amnesty. Neither party leader nor executive [members] ever talked about that. The remarks were by people who have no obligation to the party," Yongyuth said.

AND...

it comes on the heels of the incredulous claim by Yingluck yesterday.

She added that her brother, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra had nothing do to with the red-shirt group

Ahhhh, back to Thaksin's own feeble denials... "I don't know them"

The PTP must have a very low opinion of their constituents to feed them this much manure.

The ridiculous claim by Yingluck that Thaksin "had nothing to do with the red-shirt group" didn't last very long.

Thaksin yesterday phoned in to an event to establish another "Red Shirt Village" in the Kumphawapi district of Udon Thani.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=477972&view=findpost&p=4513896

They sure seem to know him... his enlarged image is the only one on display. Unlike Yingluck, however, they never try and make absurd lies about the relationship:

Supporters hold pictures of ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra as they celebrate being branded as "red" in the village of Suan Mo, near Udon Thani in northeastern Thailand June 25, 2011.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-06/26/content_12777595_2.htm

Edited September 4, 2011 by metisdead
Copyrighted photo removed.

[JurgenG]

Supporters hold pictures of ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra as they celebrate being branded as "red" in the village of Suan Mo, near Udon Thani in northeastern Thailand June 25, 2011.

http://www.chinadail..._12777595_2.htm

Can you find a picture of a village proud of having been branded "yellow" ?

I don't think so ....

Edited June 26, 2011 by JurgenG

[Buchholz]

Supporters hold pictures of ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra as they celebrate being branded as "red" in the village of Suan Mo, near Udon Thani in northeastern Thailand June 25, 2011.

http://www.chinadail..._12777595_2.htm

Can you find a picture of a village proud of having been branded "yellow" ?

Why? To show they are misled by someone who doesn't know them?

They are campaigning for a no vote, not endorsing a a particular candidate and Party.

Perhaps one day you'll learn the reds and yellows are not directly analogous in every situation.

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Edited June 26, 2011 by Buchholz