Global Nationality

[gennisis]

My Thai friend was telling me that many ,if not most ,well off thia's have chinese in their genes .Dont know enough to agree or otherwise but since my earlier muse regarding English or British nationality generated 12 pages of replies....I guess the rainy weather is keeping them indoors with little to do I would like to offer this .....

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Which nationality has been less diluted by foreigners?...say in the past 200/300 years.

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Obviously most of Asia will have been infiltrated(impregnated) by the Chinese..,.. although Korea and Japan may be less affected......America firstly by Europeans and now Latins.

Australia by English convicts Europe by a mixture of other european countries.

So I can only guess that The Artic race of the innui must be fairly pure ,due to the unwellcoming climate for immigrants,and India , possibly due to the strong Hindu influences.

But I"m sure you have diferent suggestions.???

[happyrobert]

The Fore tribe of Papau, New Guinea. They even used to eat each other's brains to "keep it in the family." Almost wiped them out due to Kuru, but they've made a great comeback!

Anyway, who'd wanna marry one of them?

Pure.

[soomak]

Fortunately, our friend Google has all the answers

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_eth_gro-people-ethnic-groups

And the winners are:

1. South Korea: 99.9% Korean (20,000 Chinese)

2. North Korea: same

3. Lesotho = 99.7% Sotho

[Semper]

[Which nationality has been less diluted by foreigners?

Eskimos.

[tailspin]

North Sentinel Island

[Thongkorn]

All Thais Originate from china, they came South to get away from Genges Kan.

[Jingthing]

Not that simple. The majority of Thai people in Thailand are not HAN Chinese (the vast majority in China itself) but from NON-HAN minorities in southern China. I reckon the Thais who feel they are Thai Chinese have connections to HAN Chinese, not the Chinese minorities most associated with the majority of Thai people.

Edited August 7, 2011 by Jingthing

[astral]

Dilution is the strength of a nation.

Inbreeding is very undesirable.

[Thakkar]

The purest race? Depends on how far back you go. If you go back far enough, all of us are descended from a couple of thousand Africans, not an Englishman among them.

T

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[Jingthing]

That's correct. There is no thing as race biologically. There are ethnicities/nationalities/peoples though.

[canuckamuck]

The purest race? Depends on how far back you go. If you go back far enough, all of us are descended from a couple of thousand Africans, not an Englishman among them.

T

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Where did the couple of thousand Africans come from?

[Jingthing]

The purest race? Depends on how far back you go. If you go back far enough, all of us are descended from a couple of thousand Africans, not an Englishman among them.

T

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Where did the couple of thousand Africans come from?

Evolution from apes. Did you attend a school?

Edited August 7, 2011 by Jingthing

[Patsycat]

And there I was thinking I was a little star in the sky and a twinkle in my daddy's eye!!

[kerryk]

The purest race? Depends on how far back you go. If you go back far enough, all of us are descended from a couple of thousand Africans, not an Englishman among them.

T

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Where did the couple of thousand Africans come from?

Evolution from apes. Did you attend a school?

Maybe things have changed in school since I am an old bugger but I was taught man and apes had a common ancestor rather than man being descendant from apes.

[happyrobert]

The purest race? Depends on how far back you go. If you go back far enough, all of us are descended from a couple of thousand Africans, not an Englishman among them.

T

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Where did the couple of thousand Africans come from?

Evolution from apes. Did you attend a school?

I don't believe in evolution , but I've met a substantial number of people who haven't evolved much, so maybe I'm wrong.

[Thakkar]

And there I was thinking I was a little star in the sky and a twinkle in my daddy's eye!!

No doubt you still are and forever will be, darling.

Speaking even as a father of insufferable teenage girls.

[Jingthing]

I don't believe in evolution , but I've met a substantial number of people who haven't evolved much, so maybe I'm wrong.

Oh, I see. You're one of those intelligent cretinism followers?

[tailspin]

This posts needs to be backed up with facts.

Think I will stick with the dictionary definition of race......

Ethnicities is largley a yank census thing to classify latino versus non-latino

Nationalities are not static...the nation state has only existed in its current form for 500 years or so...before that it was all tribal, kingdoms, dynasties etc....

There are some nationalities now that didn't exist a few years back(see former yugoslavia)

, and there are some that may be created in the future

"peoples"???sorry no idea what that means, sounds like something from a hollywood movie......

That's correct. There is no thing as race biologically. There are ethnicities/nationalities/peoples though.

Edited August 7, 2011 by tailspin

[Jingthing]

It's still evolving. This is the most modern theory about whether race exists genetically and the one I go by. People see race, but all they see are superficial physical differences (like color, eye shape, lip fullness, etc.) which are determined by a tiny portion of our genetic code.

If someone is 1 percent black, are they black? 10 percent? 50 percent? Some societies say yes, some say no. (Is Obama really black?)

Races as social constructions

Main articles: Social interpretations of race and Racialism

As anthropologists and other evolutionary scientists have shifted away from the language of race to the term population to talk about genetic differences, historians, cultural anthropologists and other social scientists re-conceptualized the term "race" as a cultural category or social construct—a particular way that some people talk about themselves and others.

Many social scientists have replaced the word race with the word "ethnicity" to refer to self-identifying groups based on beliefs concerning shared culture, ancestry and history. Alongside empirical and conceptual problems with "race," following the Second World War, evolutionary and social scientists were acutely aware of how beliefs about race had been used to justify discrimination, apartheid, slavery, and genocide. This questioning gained momentum in the 1960s during the U.S. civil rights movement and the emergence of numerous anti-colonial movements worldwide. They thus came to believe that race itself is a social construct, a concept that was believed to correspond to an objective reality but which was believed in because of its social functions.[94]

Craig Venter and Francis Collins of the National Institute of Health jointly made the announcement of the mapping of the human genome in 2000. Upon examining the data from the genome mapping, Venter realized that although the genetic variation within the human species is on the order of 1–3% (instead of the previously assumed 1%), the types of variations do not support notion of genetically defined races. Venter said, "Race is a social concept. It's not a scientific one. There are no bright lines (that would stand out), if we could compare all the sequenced genomes of everyone on the planet." "When we try to apply science to try to sort out these social differences, it all falls apart."[95]

Stephan Palmié asserted that race "is not a thing but a social relation";[96] or, in the words of Katya Gibel Mevorach, "a metonym," "a human invention whose criteria for differentiation are neither universal nor fixed but have always been used to manage difference."[97] As such, the use of the term "race" itself must be analyzed. Moreover, they argue that biology will not explain why or how people use the idea of race: History and social relationships will.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28classification_of_humans%29

So, it's real, in our HEADS as we perceive differences influenced by our society, but it's not real genetically.

Edited August 7, 2011 by Jingthing

[bonobo]

The purest race? Depends on how far back you go. If you go back far enough, all of us are descended from a couple of thousand Africans, not an Englishman among them.

T

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Where did the couple of thousand Africans come from?

Evolution from apes. Did you attend a school?

Maybe things have changed in school since I am an old bugger but I was taught man and apes had a common ancestor rather than man being descendant from apes.

Well, to be more specific, we are apes (Hominidae, or "Great Apes."). However, your point is correct in that we did not evolve from any other modern ape but rather had some common ancestors quite some time back.

[Jingthing]

Yes, that's the thinking. I should have also said we evolved from OTHER apes, as yes, we are apes. No wonder apes are always the most popular exhibit at zoos.

[afarang]

Not that simple. The majority of Thai people in Thailand are not HAN Chinese (the vast majority in China itself) but from NON-HAN minorities in southern China. I reckon the Thais who feel they are Thai Chinese have connections to HAN Chinese, not the Chinese minorities most associated with the majority of Thai people.

Absolute rubbish .The REAL Isarn people are the wonderful PRAI ,in the North they are of Lao origin. Not a Chinese amongst them .In the South of Isarn ,they are Cambodian ,in origin.Once again ,not a Chinese amongst them They mainly speak Cambodian languages. Languages ? Yes, Suay or Gui.Some Khmer .These languages Have NO connection to the Thai language.Although ,today Northern Isarn people speak mainly Lao ,as their first Language. In Southern Isarn ,the younger ones ,now speak Isarn .Which has a strong connection to Lao ,but has many differences.Some might consider them to be , in the modern sense, Sister languages to Thai. My problem is, I speak Bangkok Thai, But I live in Southern Isarn . Any one who does NOT have a University education ,does NOT understand me. When I speak.Given that until ,Thaksin ,came along ,99% of the PRAI, never completed ,Primary 3, let alone went to Secondary school.Now some of the PRAI are completing Matayom 6. Some, only a few ,as of now are going to Uni.

[endure]

And there I was thinking I was a little star in the sky and a twinkle in my daddy's eye!!

You're a little star in my sky, Pats.

[newsite12]

The Falklands

It was tried about 27 years ago, but we kicked their ass.

[gennisis]

The purest race? Depends on how far back you go. If you go back far enough, all of us are descended from a couple of thousand Africans, not an Englishman among them.

T

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Many researchers will claim that a race of 'celts' from the northern part of China,migrated west and formed the northern european races.....mummified very ancient bodies and remains wearing 'tartan' clothing have been unearthed....whilst another form of man originated in Africa and formed the African and mediteranean races

[Atmos]

"Which nationality has been less diluted by foreigners?...say in the past 200/300 years."

No idea. How about the reverse, 'most-diluted'?

I'll start the bidding with that 'new' country of New Zealand, at their last census (2006) 22.9% of people identified as having been born in another country, and in the Auckland region (comprising 32% of the country's population) the overseas-born figure was 37%.

I had one NZ-born grandparent, the other three came to NZ from three different continents.

Wonder how this compares to modern-day UK?

or Australia

The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) report of the 2006 census revealed a quarter of the population, or 4.4 million people, were born overseas.On top of these numbers, 20 per cent of Australians had at least one parent who was not born in Australia. Predictably the United Kingdom provided the most common country of origin, with 24 per cent of foreign-born residents arriving from there.

Edited August 8, 2011 by Atmos

[Mirth]

Long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, a lone ship carrying 2, 1 male with white skin but slanted eyes and 1 female with light skin but big eyes and nose, escaped an imploding planet and found it's way here and that's how life started.

Sorry but slow afternoon.

[onionluke]

The pure - the name given to white dog <deleted> in the good old days when it was collected and used by tannerys in the leather making process .

The Han Chinese have been trying for ever to validate their theory that they were not descendent from Africa but are a seperate race .

I am going to change my spots by declaring that I am Globbish and proud of it .

[Jingthing]

The pure - the name given to white dog <deleted> in the good old days when it was collected and used by tannerys in the leather making process .

The Han Chinese have been trying for ever to validate their theory that they were not descendent from Africa but are a seperate race .

I am going to change my spots by declaring that I am Globbish and proud of it .

One ethnicity claiming to be superior to other "races" sounds like classic racism. It's a scourge on mankind. Yes I knew you didn't say superior but I am aware of the Han Chinese tendency towards a superiority complex. Not very unusual at all, sadly. Following on my previous points, yes racism is very, very real (as a social construct), even if there is no biological/genetic basis for the concept of race, which there isn't.

Edited August 8, 2011 by Jingthing

[doji]

All Thais Originate from china, they came South to get away from Genges Kan.

esp true for most people in the northern and central region.

As for Bangkok specifically:

The chinese traders settled here FIRST by boats up and down from the mouth to inland Bkk along the Chaopraya river, waay before the Ayuttaya Dynasty moved its capital from Ayuttaya to Bangkok for strategic defense reason.

So basically most Bkk Chineses were actually not immigrants here in Bkk, and over times they had spreaded to its surrounding areas,..mostly along the riverways at first, ,such as Samutprakan, Samutsakhon, Samutsongkram, etcs. So their wealth had grown from one generation to the next, that's why you see many thai-chinese families are rich,…well it's quite easy when your ancestor wasn't exactly poor to begin with. But one thing I have noticed, most thai-chineses tend to be very hard workers, very savvy in business, eventhough they may be quite thiftly but they sure know how to indulge themselves when they happen to like something very much too.

Edited August 8, 2011 by doji