Seeds

[Foreverford]

We need to organize something in pinned for sources of seed stock and plants available to the organic farmers. I'll go into detail in an update shortly. For now a new source that looks promising. http://www.datt.co.t...ive_page_id=171

FF

[Foreverford]

Here's what is available in Northern California and I will talk to them about international shipping. Just found them and am salivating over the huge variety of organic and untreated seed available in bulk, definitely xmas in August. Fulfillingly Finally Found with Fords Forever

http://www.snowseedco.com/vegetables/

[IsaanAussie]

Well done, bring some back, you have exseeded yourself. As you know nothing sucks seeds like a parrot with no beak.

[rice555]

Hello FEF, I tried snowjob 5-6 years back. @'ed them for a price

quote on some seed they sold and got no reply, was using my

San Mateo address. That's before their new website with O/L

shopping format they now have.

I found Snow after after a dead end with HM's Fresno office, the

seed co that breeds the seed I wanted said to contact their BKK

office. Ended up ordering from Tomato Growers Supply in FL.

http://www.seedquest.com/whitepages/homepage.htm

Has been a great tool for finding seed, OG/OP/Hyb.

I get most of my seed out of CO, one of Snows suppliers.

Not OG, but OP and a few of us have been happy with the seed

quality from them, they've been in seed and breeding seed 112

years. The picture is from saved seed I got from jaideeguy in CM.

will be planting this seed the first part of Sep. after the eagle shits

to pay the tractor guy. Great OP, 8 row, small cob, dent.

For "H-OG" I like. http://www.southernexposure.com/

My new charcoal trees, think S.W. BBQ smoked flavor.

rice555

[Foreverford]

Hello FEF, I tried snowjob 5-6 years back. @'ed them for a price

quote on some seed they sold and got no reply, was using my

San Mateo address. That's before their new website with O/L

shopping format they now have.

I found Snow after after a dead end with HM's Fresno office, the

seed co that breeds the seed I wanted said to contact their BKK

office. Ended up ordering from Tomato Growers Supply in FL.

http://www.seedquest...es/homepage.htm

Has been a great tool for finding seed, OG/OP/Hyb.

I get most of my seed out of CO, one of Snows suppliers.

Not OG, but OP and a few of us have been happy with the seed

quality from them, they've been in seed and breeding seed 112

years. The picture is from saved seed I got from jaideeguy in CM.

will be planting this seed the first part of Sep. after the eagle shits

to pay the tractor guy. Great OP, 8 row, small cob, dent.

For "H-OG" I like. http://www.southernexposure.com/

My new charcoal trees, think S.W. BBQ smoked flavor.

rice555

Hey there Triple Nickles. Snow was a bit slow in responding to me also and i found out they will not and can not ship internationally. I'll check out seedquest and southern exposure. So was I looking at young mesquite by chance in your photo? Still haven't run down Doc Treelove as he is a busy man. this is the coldest summer in over 50 years or more. Foggy until late late morning nearly every day (think San mateo in the south bay). going to see Ry Cooder and jerry jeff Walker at the Great American Music Hall this next week. Ry is 25 bucks and jerry is 55 with dinner and a front table should be too cool as nearly 30 years since I've seen the old codger. FFF

[rice555]

Hello FEF, another place(s) to get OG is:

http://www.sandhillpreservation.com

they have a great selection of "H" reg & OG

seed.

Also, http://www.territorialseed.com/ out

of Cottage Grove, OR. Been there, done that,

use to live E. of Eugene/Springfield up Hwy.58.

If a seedco won't ship international, set up an

account with: http://www.shipito.com/

people have used/talked about it on other TV

threads to 'Re'-ship packages to LOS.

But my main source for seed is:

http://www.burrellseeds.us/online_catalog.html

the cheapest OP bulk veg. seed you can find for

the small grower. They ship USPS to LOS, take CC's,

but still don't have OL ordering. E-mail or fax,

but I still call to order, only takes a few minutes.

I'm still tweaking my order around to keep it under

1Lb., will be ordering on 9/3.

Have fun at the GAMH, remember waiting in line

and watch the string of minibuses bringing loads

of men from the Rising Sun to Mitchell Brothers.

My last GAMH was either Joe McDonald or Proctor

and Bergman.

We had 8-couples at a New Year show their with

Peter Rowen(The Free Mexican Air Force) and Norton

Buffalo.

Did you ever make it to The Matrix on Fillmore?

rice555

[Foreverford]

Hello FEF, another place(s) to get OG is:

http://www.sandhillpreservation.com

they have a great selection of "H" reg & OG

seed.

Also, http://www.territorialseed.com/ out

of Cottage Grove, OR. Been there, done that,

use to live E. of Eugene/Springfield up Hwy.58.

If a seedco won't ship international, set up an

account with: http://www.shipito.com/

people have used/talked about it on other TV

threads to 'Re'-ship packages to LOS.

But my main source for seed is:

http://www.burrellse...ne_catalog.html

the cheapest OP bulk veg. seed you can find for

the small grower. They ship USPS to LOS, take CC's,

but still don't have OL ordering. E-mail or fax,

but I still call to order, only takes a few minutes.

I'm still tweaking my order around to keep it under

1Lb., will be ordering on 9/3.

Have fun at the GAMH, remember waiting in line

and watch the string of minibuses bringing loads

of men from the Rising Sun to Mitchell Brothers.

My last GAMH was either Joe McDonald or Proctor

and Bergman.

We had 8-couples at a New Year show their with

Peter Rowen(The Free Mexican Air Force) and Norton

Buffalo.

Did you ever make it to The Matrix on Fillmore?

rice555

Thanks for the sources will check them out in a bit. I'm off to see Dr Treelove in 20 minutes so have to go. Didn't ever make it to the Matrix but saw the Rowan Bros with the Dead one time. It's been about 25 years since the last time at the GAMH. It was some kind of all-star band with Johnny "Guitar"Cippolina, from Quicksilver and Barry "The Fish" Melton from Country joe and the Fish and a couple other super stars but can't really remember who but as always a good time for all. Feeling like I'm a Fixin' Fish ona Ford Forever

[rice555]

Hello FEF, I don't know when you'll be in SF area then, but:

Come meet Bill McDorman, Executive Director and Belle Starr, Deputy Director of Native Seeds/SEARCH at the stunning Studio Barndiva, in Healdsburg, Friday, September 16th at 11 am. An enjoyable, sumptuous brunch will be served with delectables from the Native Seeds/SEARCH collection of southwest seeds. Bill will give us an update on the current state of "our" seeds.

We'd love to meet our California Native Seeds/SEARCH members after the National Heirloom Expo in Santa Rosa. Please register in advance (so we know how much food to send to our BARNDIVA friends). www.nativeseeds.org

Don't miss the National Heirloom Expo Tuesday, September 13 - 15 at the Sonoma County Fairgrounds in Santa Rosa.

Questions, comments, feedback welcome. Please email: [email protected] or call: 520.622.0830, ext. 104. Much thanks.

rice555

[Foreverford]

Hello FEF, I don't know when you'll be in SF area then, but:

Come meet Bill McDorman, Executive Director and Belle Starr, Deputy Director of Native Seeds/SEARCH at the stunning Studio Barndiva, in Healdsburg, Friday, September 16th at 11 am. An enjoyable, sumptuous brunch will be served with delectables from the Native Seeds/SEARCH collection of southwest seeds. Bill will give us an update on the current state of "our" seeds.

We'd love to meet our California Native Seeds/SEARCH members after the National Heirloom Expo in Santa Rosa. Please register in advance (so we know how much food to send to our BARNDIVA friends). www.nativeseeds.org

Don't miss the National Heirloom Expo Tuesday, September 13 - 15 at the Sonoma County Fairgrounds in Santa Rosa.

Questions, comments, feedback welcome. Please email: [email protected] or call: 520.622.0830, ext. 104. Much thanks.

rice555

Thanks Nickles but will be landing back in LOS on the 16th. Ended up buying a bit from Territorial but found Snow had a much bigger variety of organics and much better prices than anyone else so I have my bags full of almost all organic seeds. Jerry Jeff and Ry really put on some special shows with Ry bringing Flaco Jiminez on for the entire show and had a 10 piece horn section. the sound for each show was superb, a great experience for the wife and me too. PS Were those trees you showed before in the pictures, mesquite? FFFFForever

[rice555]

Hello FEF, glad your seed buying worked out. I used some seed from Territorial in the past, but used

mostly from: https://www.nicholsgardennursery.com/ I started buying seed from them in 73 when

I lived in Parkdale OR, the upper town in the Hood River Valley(apples&pears) and a great view of the back side of Mt. Hood.

Nichols was big with the 'back to the land people', they had cheese/beer/wine making supplies and a large selection of "H" and OP seed.

In 83 I got on a 'home garden field triles' with the Ag school in Corvallis OR. I got to try some of the

2nd. generation 'Sugar Snap Peas' and couple of bush beans. They now have a black tom they bred I would like to try.

Heres a picture of my raised bed garden and tractor. The two rows with the 2by's are the trellis supports for the peas. I added to more beds the size of the small one later.

Bought some toms plants in Eugene at a small garden shop that carried Territorial Seed, in an area I would spend more time on my weekly trips in to the big city. 'Animal House' was shot a few blocks away and 'Down by the River', about 1/4 mile away. That movie was about some students from Milptas High School. There was the "WOW Hall", saw CJMcD with The Manizata Band doing backup. The WOW was the old union hall for, 'Woodworkers Of the World'.

It now a community center that has some good music concerts and some good story telling.

I really liked being able to see someone I had heard on KFAT. It was about, " The Worst Job I Ever Had", U. Utah Phillips spinning the yarns. "Hallelujah, I'm a bum", which could be a redshirt battle song.

As I'm hunt and pecking this dribble, it's still raining here, E. of Korat, and they say a few more days of this to go. Bring life jackets for your seed. If it keeps up like this, your ford will be a rust spot by the time you get back.

Another seed source for 'H' seed is in Petaluma. http://rareseeds.com/petaluma-seed-bank/ This is

hooked up with Baker Creek Seeds out of MO., but not bulk.

My seed order is high in CO and should be leaving on a jet plane soon.

Flaco was Peter Rowen's back up chest organ squeezer that New Years at GAMH way back then.

Do you remember what you were doing 35 years ago Sep.?

The picture is me in Big Sky country, up above jelly stone MT. on the cut banks with German Browns.

rice555

[Foreverford]

Hello FEF, glad your seed buying worked out. I used some seed from Territorial in the past, but used

mostly from: https://www.nicholsgardennursery.com/ I started buying seed from them in 73 when

I lived in Parkdale OR, the upper town in the Hood River Valley(apples&pears) and a great view of the back side of Mt. Hood.

Nichols was big with the 'back to the land people', they had cheese/beer/wine making supplies and a large selection of "H" and OP seed.

In 83 I got on a 'home garden field triles' with the Ag school in Corvallis OR. I got to try some of the

2nd. generation 'Sugar Snap Peas' and couple of bush beans. They now have a black tom they bred I would like to try.

Heres a picture of my raised bed garden and tractor. The two rows with the 2by's are the trellis supports for the peas. I added to more beds the size of the small one later.

Bought some toms plants in Eugene at a small garden shop that carried Territorial Seed, in an area I would spend more time on my weekly trips in to the big city. 'Animal House' was shot a few blocks away and 'Down by the River', about 1/4 mile away. That movie was about some students from Milptas High School. There was the "WOW Hall", saw CJMcD with The Manizata Band doing backup. The WOW was the old union hall for, 'Woodworkers Of the World'.

It now a community center that has some good music concerts and some good story telling.

I really liked being able to see someone I had heard on KFAT. It was about, " The Worst Job I Ever Had", U. Utah Phillips spinning the yarns. "Hallelujah, I'm a bum", which could be a redshirt battle song.

As I'm hunt and pecking this dribble, it's still raining here, E. of Korat, and they say a few more days of this to go. Bring life jackets for your seed. If it keeps up like this, your ford will be a rust spot by the time you get back.

Another seed source for 'H' seed is in Petaluma. http://rareseeds.com...luma-seed-bank/ This is

hooked up with Baker Creek Seeds out of MO., but not bulk.

My seed order is high in CO and should be leaving on a jet plane soon.

Flaco was Peter Rowen's back up chest organ squeezer that New Years at GAMH way back then.

Do you remember what you were doing 35 years ago Sep.?

The picture is me in Big Sky country, up above jelly stone MT. on the cut banks with German Browns.

rice555

Well hey there Big Cat (like in the photo) you could mix some compost in that tractor. Timing Timin timing, so we leave Tomorrow and tomorrow is the start of the first National Heirloom Exposition out here in Santa Rosa somewhat sponsored by "Rare Seeds" from your link above. I'd sure love to talk myself into 5 hours and Golden Gate Bridge and on the road again to check it out as I just returned from a Tahoe whirlwind turn around trip as time has slipped away. Doc Treelove is coming by for Tom Yam Gung and some idea exchanges tonight as he is really getting it on with his business taking him from basically Santa Cruz to Santa Rosa. He's looking for some Romneya (poppy family) seeds from Thailand if you have seen or heard anything about them.

That fishing photo is too good. Reminds me of my first time "belly crawling" as a 7 year old along the headwaters of the Snake on the other side of the Tetons from where your photo was taken. Your talk of Oregon reminds me of laying lines in the MacKenzie and Alsae (sp?). You really set the sparks off in the old and addled brain when you asked about what I was doing Sept 35 years ago (Full on college, CSM, Canada and Skyline, for EMS and Firefighter credentials, umpiring high school baseball, hauling, gardening, tree cutting, selling firewood, buying fixing and selling cars and trucks to help pay the rent and put boots and levis on the body). Now 36 years ago, that was some bad bad stuff happening then too too cool...but another story for another time.

Well looks like I'll miss the Heirloom Expositon this year but hopefully they'll have it again next year. I'd like to learn any new secrets to growing and saving heirloom seeds and this looks like the place to get them. Seeds that Feed with Fords Forever

[rice555]

Hello FEF, you also missed several other big shows later this month. Does Fordhook mean anything

to you? Tommy J's farm back E., the guy on the US money, but not the cherry tree guy.

I did 2 of the 3 schools you did, but most at College of Small Minds as we called it in 68. Down the

end of the road in the Aero Dept.

Still raining now and then, sometimes very heavy! Off to the farm tomorrow to have a look see and

do some measuring for the kitchen and hall walls studs and rock.

There wasn't to much soil at the mill to chose from that didn't have old 'glue waste', 'asbestos from

steam pipes/steam plant/electric plant' and all the other hazardous wastes that were dumped/spilled

in the 40 it ran before the EPA started.

Say Hi to Dr. Don, why does he want seed from LOS? Haven't looked here yet for a source, but you

can find retail $46.@1K or wholesale $4.@1K/$30.@1oz/$220.@1lb. (33,400 seed per Oz.) in CA.

Plants are $9.90 for 1gal. $69. 15gal.

Short list of co's and growing info.

rice❺❺❺

PS, the tom pic is from NYT food section last week, an "H-salad", looks good.

SMOKE-INDUCED SEED GERMINATION IN CALIFORNIA CHAPARRAL

http://www.werc.usgs.gov/OLDsitedata/seki/pdfs/ecology3.pdf

California Native Plant Selection and Display for the Home Gardener and Professional Landscaper in

the Monterey Bay Region

http://ucce.ucdavis.edu/freeform/slosson/documents/2000-20012058.pdf#search=%22Romneya

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http://www.cnplx.info/nplx/species?taxon=Romneya+coulteri

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