WarpSpeed Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Thai Cruz does your PM function work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 the leather interior is so ugly.. A+ for blue cloth though. maybe the poster is showing his age ? was blue cloth and blue leather not from cars of the 70's and 80's ? same era Toyota and Opel's had red cloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) the leather interior is so ugly.. A+ for blue cloth though. maybe the poster is showing his age ? was blue cloth and blue leather not from cars of the 70's and 80's ? same era Toyota and Opel's had red cloth Yea. I don't know what age he is, but if he thinks blue cloth looks better than my all black leather (which he couldn't see completely because it was a steering wheel picture), he is dreaming. He prefers the blue and black cloth. Edited September 28, 2011 by thaicruze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) How many Kms has it done starting to look a bit 'sat in' already or is there another reason for that? Oh the picture got deleted he must be away trying to reajust those saggy bits ,the seats i mean. Edited September 28, 2011 by kartman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) How many Kms has it done starting to look a bit 'sat in' already or is there another reason for that? What do you mean "sat in". Which picture are you talking about. one is mine the other is an internet picture. This is mine Do you think this looks "sat in"? Edited September 28, 2011 by thaicruze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) How many Kms has it done starting to look a bit 'sat in' already or is there another reason for that? What do you mean "sat in". Which picture are you talking about. one is mine the other is an internet picture. This is mine Do you think this looks "sat in"? I think he means the 'stretched' or 'slack' portion of the leather in your car on the drivers seat pictured from the drivers side and not the ones you posted when the seats were first installed which is what I mentioned early on would happen since the leather wasn't tufted and the seats are not stiff enough for the leather that has been sewn over cloth seat padding.. This one; I might also add that several members chastised me at the time for my being able to determine the firmness of the seats from a picture and make note of that but there you have it! It's beginning already and it's going to pull the stitching out in short order as the stretching reaches it's limits.. Don't know about pic #2. It's from the internet/ My seats look the same as the day I got it. Edited September 28, 2011 by thaicruze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 How many Kms has it done starting to look a bit 'sat in' already or is there another reason for that? What do you mean "sat in". Which picture are you talking about. one is mine the other is an internet picture. This is mine Do you think this looks "sat in"? I think he means the 'stretched' or 'slack' portion of the leather in your car on the drivers seat pictured from the drivers side and not the ones you posted when the seats were first installed which is what I mentioned early on would happen since the leather wasn't tufted and the seats are not stiff enough for the leather that has been sewn over cloth seat padding.. This one; I might also add that several members chastised me at the time for my being able to determine the firmness of the seats from a picture and make note of that but there you have it! It's beginning already and it's going to pull the stitching out in short order as the stretching reaches it's limits.. common on sloppy aftermarket leather was the fabric taken off the seats prior to installation? just look at the pictures how much better factory leather looks when new, and couple of years later diffrence is huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) How many Kms has it done starting to look a bit 'sat in' already or is there another reason for that? What do you mean "sat in". Which picture are you talking about. one is mine the other is an internet picture. This is mine Do you think this looks "sat in"? I think he means the 'stretched' or 'slack' portion of the leather in your car on the drivers seat pictured from the drivers side and not the ones you posted when the seats were first installed which is what I mentioned early on would happen since the leather wasn't tufted and the seats are not stiff enough for the leather that has been sewn over cloth seat padding.. This one; I might also add that several members chastised me at the time for my being able to determine the firmness of the seats from a picture and make note of that but there you have it! It's beginning already and it's going to pull the stitching out in short order as the stretching reaches it's limits.. common on sloppy aftermarket leather was the fabric taken off the seats prior to installation? just look at the pictures how much better factory leather looks when new, and couple of years later diffrence is huge Yes but I was shot down for making that observation previously. Factory leather seats are always more firm to prevent the leather over- stretching cracking the color coating and tearing the seams out, the only time that's not the case is when the leather is tufted for more flex and comfort.. In this case though it seems I noticed after the fact that the leather in the shots is not the same car, but the observation is still the same and applies.. Edited September 28, 2011 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) the Cruze's seats are hard as a rock. Leather or no leather. Doesn't matter. Edited September 28, 2011 by thaicruze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 the Cruze's seats are hard as a rock. Leather or no leather. Doesn't matter. O Dear will have to give the Cruxe a miss, 'seat hard as a rock' no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Progress.?. What will that extreeeeemly cheap skin look like when used for 12 months. Some of you who can remember Ford Zodiac in the U.K. had Cirrus, or Ambala cynthetic hide, Car Cost.1027GBP. Lasted well and looked like leather. Pay Extra for That, no way.. O.K KBB , 1024 GBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) the Cruze's seats are hard as a rock. Leather or no leather. Doesn't matter. O Dear will have to give the Cruxe a miss, 'seat hard as a rock' no thanks I love them. Worst thing for your back is a mushy seat that will sink and have a hole in them. You sit in the Cruze, it is firm and great for your back. They are firm and extremely well bolstered. You feel like you are in the cockpit of a fighter jet. Speaking of which, the wife took the Cruze today and it is picking me up.. Edited September 28, 2011 by katabeachbum large fonts removed. Please read Forum rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chonburiram Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 ...'covering the brake'... Isn't the C.C. for freeing me to 'cover the accelerator' all the time? Something like carefree CRRUUZING, just braking from time to time and than accelerating to the chosen speed, without touching the accelerator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 The picture i was talking about was the one you posted taken from the drivers side clearly showing saggy material which you quickly deleated after reading my reply , to be replaced later by a picture taken from the passenger side . You are now stating they are well bolstered which they may well be but the covers are <deleted> born out by the photo taken by your own golden hand there's a lovely crease on the backrest bottom l/h corner + others at the top , the squab looks like a water bed and i'm sure it is on the move all the time the side of the drivers seat looks iffy as does the centre consol. i know you will be in denial about deleating the first picture but luckily for all the members your second confirms what i stated your covers are crap and will only get crappier. At least now you know what 'sat in' means normally a reference to seats in a very high KMS car, another first here for you but probably not your dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br12stol Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 The picture i was talking about was the one you posted taken from the drivers side clearly showing saggy material which you quickly deleated after reading my reply , to be replaced later by a picture taken from the passenger side . You are now stating they are well bolstered which they may well be but the covers are <deleted> born out by the photo taken by your own golden hand there's a lovely crease on the backrest bottom l/h corner + others at the top , the squab looks like a water bed and i'm sure it is on the move all the time the side of the drivers seat looks iffy as does the centre consol. i know you will be in denial about deleating the first picture but luckily for all the members your second confirms what i stated your covers are crap and will only get crappier. At least now you know what 'sat in' means normally a reference to seats in a very high KMS car, another first here for you but probably not your dealer. I thought the leather looks very poor grade too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiIand Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 a thousand times better looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 The picture i was talking about was the one you posted taken from the drivers side clearly showing saggy material which you quickly deleated after reading my reply , to be replaced later by a picture taken from the passenger side . You are now stating they are well bolstered which they may well be but the covers are <deleted> born out by the photo taken by your own golden hand there's a lovely crease on the backrest bottom l/h corner + others at the top , the squab looks like a water bed and i'm sure it is on the move all the time the side of the drivers seat looks iffy as does the centre consol. i know you will be in denial about deleating the first picture but luckily for all the members your second confirms what i stated your covers are crap and will only get crappier. At least now you know what 'sat in' means normally a reference to seats in a very high KMS car, another first here for you but probably not your dealer. I think, as always in life, you get what you pay for. He paid 5,000 baht, although the dealer told him the usual price was 20,000. Well, my guess would be that 5,000 baht was the actual cost to the dealer (ie the cost of the product and the fitting), and the 15,000 they discounted, just the dealer's usual profit margin. Now if you take the labour charges, other overheads, plus the profit margin for the fitters, how much of the 5,000 baht is that leaving for the leather? Not a lot. Is it even 100% leather? if it is, it must be very low grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim's_a_Thai_Fox Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 ...'covering the brake'... Isn't the C.C. for freeing me to 'cover the accelerator' all the time? Something like carefree CRRUUZING, just braking from time to time and than accelerating to the chosen speed, without touching the accelerator? yeah possibly... maybe I am confused :-) I just remember never having much of a feeling of 'cruuuzing' when using C.C.... cheers for all the posts... I don't mind at all if this thread gets a little 'hijacked' (bit strong for slightly off-topic). I was kind of rooting for TH Cruze as the lone force with many posters amassed against him... he stood firm in light of the criticisms... but recently, I have detected a little aloofness and possible snobbery in some of his posts which have started to sway me in my standing :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Better known Jim, as a Ferang Hi So Bhan Nok. As Thais would call him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Snobbery and his got a Cruze :cheesy: i would call it sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Snobbery and his got a Cruze :cheesy: i would call it sad. :lol: This thread and poster are too much fun! We better back off or he'll quit posting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiIand Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 The picture i was talking about was the one you posted taken from the drivers side clearly showing saggy material which you quickly deleated after reading my reply , to be replaced later by a picture taken from the passenger side . You are now stating they are well bolstered which they may well be but the covers are <deleted> born out by the photo taken by your own golden hand there's a lovely crease on the backrest bottom l/h corner + others at the top , the squab looks like a water bed and i'm sure it is on the move all the time the side of the drivers seat looks iffy as does the centre consol. i know you will be in denial about deleating the first picture but luckily for all the members your second confirms what i stated your covers are crap and will only get crappier. At least now you know what 'sat in' means normally a reference to seats in a very high KMS car, another first here for you but probably not your dealer. I think, as always in life, you get what you pay for. He paid 5,000 baht, although the dealer told him the usual price was 20,000. Well, my guess would be that 5,000 baht was the actual cost to the dealer (ie the cost of the product and the fitting), and the 15,000 they discounted, just the dealer's usual profit margin. Now if you take the labour charges, other overheads, plus the profit margin for the fitters, how much of the 5,000 baht is that leaving for the leather? Not a lot. Is it even 100% leather? if it is, it must be very low grade. after like 10pages in his thread its quite sad that some people still dont understand that the dealer gave him a 15k rebate on the car and they used it for his leather instead of taking the cashback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrey Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 that black leather on that car looks like an old wrinkled mercedes... shabby, and that cruze steering wheel... yuuuuccckkk! the cruze is nowhere near the level of a mitsu, no brainer here, the Mitsu is miles better than this Shabby Cruze... hey, that's pretty catchy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 your covers are crap and will only get crappier. OK. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Maybe the pics don't do it justice, but my seats are great. I love the leather. The material I picked was rough, not the smooth one. For all your bullshit about it being "wrinkled in the corners" and the seat part being "saggy", well, here is a brand new LTZ with the 2 tone leather from factory. As you can see, the leather "sags" in the same places. Not all leather in cars fits in the same way. The leather in my Sebring has a similar fit to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I love how these keyboard warriors love to put others down, but don't dare to put pictures of their own cars up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 a thousand times better looking. Yea... In 1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Yes i'm not trying to push my cars (note plurel) down everybodys throat . (and doing a miserable job ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Were talking YOUR car here so we don't want pictures of other vehicles Your saying how great YOUR interior is so only pictures of that in future . Don't hype YOUR car up to be better than others we obviously all find it very comical, and can you please list in your next post the number of other Cruze owners that have come to your defense in this thread as this will give us all the feeling for the real market penertration of this vehicle , when other makes/models get slyted on the forum owners come out and disagree/agree so post your supporters please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Were talking YOUR car here so we don't want pictures of other vehicles Your saying how great YOUR interior is so only pictures of that in future . Don't hype YOUR car up to be better than others we obviously all find it very comical, and can you please list in your next post the number of other Cruze owners that have come to your defense in this thread as this will give us all the feeling for the real market penertration of this vehicle , when other makes/models get slyted on the forum owners come out and disagree/agree so post your supporters please. Wow. Listen to you. You're so worked up about a car. You had to post twice in a row. People who buy the Cruze are a class above people who post on here. So, when I go be with MY kind of people, I see the Cruze all over the place. And notice again, when presented with the truth (leather in the mitsubishi) then the trolls come out and shift the conversation again. Hilarious it is Edited September 29, 2011 by thaicruze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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