5Th Australian Tourist Visa For Wife, Can She Apply For Longer Stay, Eg 6 Or 9 Months?

[frankpelagic]

I have been in a relationship for three years, married (in Australia) for 2 years.

My wife has been to Aus with me four times, never overstayed or made any problem.

We were told by the Embassy staff (not cc Tower) to apply for appropriate visa on our third application.

We applied for marrried visa, it was denied as I had been in a previous relationship 4yrs 6 mths ago (time limit 5 yrs, but they have powers of descretion).

The fourth 3 month tourist visa approved while waiting for the married visa to be decided.

Now we want to apply for a longer tourist visa, 6 or 9 months for the following reasons....

a. so I can continue to work, and my wife can be with me and our longstanding relationship can continue normally

b. so we can work towards satisfying, once again, the conditions required to reapply for a married visa, such as having a home together in Aus, as well as evidence to be provided by Australian citizens that we are in a functional and genuine relationship.

c. We would like the condition of "no further visa applications to be made" - I forget the number- not to be applied, as this exercise has already been extremely expensive, given the refusal of the married visa on what was really a technicality. We would like to re-apply for the married visa while in Australia

Any suggestions please?

Thanks

[Will27]

frankpeligic

I have a few questions and hopefully some good answers.

What date was the spouse application refused?

It must be close to the 5 year period now?

The reason I'm asking, is that it seems that you want your wife to be living in Australia with you rather

than just holidaying. In other words, you want to live in Australia not Thailand. And seeing as DIAC

have said they don't want to issue any more visitor visa's you might find it hard to get another one.

Especially a long term one. I'm just asking, is it possible to repapply for a spouse visa?

You also said "so we can work towards satisfying, once again, the conditions required to reapply for a married visa, such as having a home together in Aus, as well as evidence to be provided by Australian citizens that we are in a functional and genuine relationship".

I don't quite understand that part. You said the visa was refused due to insufficient time between applications.

You don't have to provide information about having a home in Australia and I assume you provided stat decs

about your relationship in the original application.

You also said "We would like the condition of "no further visa applications to be made"

I take it you don't want the (8503) condition? Well that's up to the case officer and is not something

you can request. And given your history of reapeated visitor visa's and the refusal of the spouse visa,

the chances of not getting it put on would be extremely remote in my opinion.

So I guess your options are: reapply for the partner visa (if the time frame has expired) or another tourist

visa.

It is cheap and quick so why don't you just apply for a tourist visa and see what happens?

The partner visa is the better visa in the long term obviously.

Regards

Will

[frankpelagic]

Hi Will, thanks for your reply. To make my response easier to follow, I have answered your points in the body of your text.

Posted 58 minutes ago

frankpeligic

I have a few questions and hopefully some good answers.

What date was the spouse application refused? Around July last year.

It must be close to the 5 year period now? I took another Thai lady to Aus about 5 years ago. She turned into a bit of a monster and had an affair with another farang not long after we got there. I reported her to the department, withdrew my support and they gave her 28 days to leave Australia, which she did. The time that I applied for her spouse visa, until now, is five years. So the condition has been met.

The reason I'm asking, is that it seems that you want your wife to be living in Australia with you rather

than just holidaying. In other words, you want to live in Australia not Thailand.Correct

And seeing as DIAC

have said they don't want to issue any more visitor visa's you might find it hard to get another one. Not quite. Sorry I didn’t explain that well. On the third application, I asked for a 6 month tourist visa. They refused but gave a 3 month one instead. The Thai official at the Aus embassy told us to apply for a spouse visa instead of more tourist visa’a, which we did, but it was refused. I applied for the fourth tourist visa after submitting the spouse visa papers, granted.

Especially a long term one. I'm just asking, is it possible to repapply for a spouse visa? We will apply for a spouse visa again, but the lead time is now about one year. I can’t afford to continue living in Thailand with my wife while another year goes by, waiting for the spouse visa to be possibly refused again. I am 60 years old, and the clock is ticking. I want to return to work, and want my wife to be with me, hence the need to obtain a longer tourist visa, and possibly the ability to apply for the spouse visa when we are in Aus.

You also said "so we can work towards satisfying, once again, the conditions required to reapply for a married visa, such as having a home together in Aus, as well as evidence to be provided by Australian citizens that we are in a functional and genuine relationship".

I don't quite understand that part. You said the visa was refused due to insufficient time between applications.

You don't have to provide information about having a home in Australia and I assume you provided stat decs

about your relationship in the original application. We provided a full and well supported application, stat dec’s the lot. Even the medicals, x-rays the whole shebang. After hearing nothing for a full 6 months, I sent them a nice polite email asking that now the lead time had passed, and we had heard nothing, was it possible our application had slipped between the floorboards? They clearly didn’t like this, as within 24 hours we received a refusal of visa notice. They agreed that they believed our relationship was genuine, and were aware that I have significant health issues, but denied that a relationship that was (then) two and a half years old could be considered “long standing”. They also felt that although my previous Thai woman had gone off with another farang, this did not qualify as “desertion”.

You also said "We would like the condition of "no further visa applications to be made"

I take it you don't want the (8503) condition? Well that's up to the case officer and is not something

you can request. And given your history of reapeated visitor visa's and the refusal of the spouse visa,

the chances of not getting it put on would be extremely remote in my opinion.

So I guess your options are: reapply for the partner visa (if the time frame has expired) or another tourist

visa.

It is cheap and quick so why don't you just apply for a tourist visa and see what happens?

The partner visa is the better visa in the long term obviously.

Regards

Will

[Will27]

Hi Will, thanks for your reply. To make my response easier to follow, I have answered your points in the body of your text.

Posted 58 minutes ago

frankpeligic

I have a few questions and hopefully some good answers.

What date was the spouse application refused? Around July last year.

It must be close to the 5 year period now? I took another Thai lady to Aus about 5 years ago. She turned into a bit of a monster and had an affair with another farang not long after we got there. I reported her to the department, withdrew my support and they gave her 28 days to leave Australia, which she did. The time that I applied for her spouse visa, until now, is five years. So the condition has been met.

The reason I'm asking, is that it seems that you want your wife to be living in Australia with you rather

than just holidaying. In other words, you want to live in Australia not Thailand.Correct

And seeing as DIAC

have said they don't want to issue any more visitor visa's you might find it hard to get another one. Not quite. Sorry I didn’t explain that well. On the third application, I asked for a 6 month tourist visa. They refused but gave a 3 month one instead. The Thai official at the Aus embassy told us to apply for a spouse visa instead of more tourist visa’a, which we did, but it was refused. I applied for the fourth tourist visa after submitting the spouse visa papers, granted.

Especially a long term one. I'm just asking, is it possible to repapply for a spouse visa? We will apply for a spouse visa again, but the lead time is now about one year. I can’t afford to continue living in Thailand with my wife while another year goes by, waiting for the spouse visa to be possibly refused again. I am 60 years old, and the clock is ticking. I want to return to work, and want my wife to be with me, hence the need to obtain a longer tourist visa, and possibly the ability to apply for the spouse visa when we are in Aus.

You also said "so we can work towards satisfying, once again, the conditions required to reapply for a married visa, such as having a home together in Aus, as well as evidence to be provided by Australian citizens that we are in a functional and genuine relationship".

I don't quite understand that part. You said the visa was refused due to insufficient time between applications.

You don't have to provide information about having a home in Australia and I assume you provided stat decs

about your relationship in the original application. We provided a full and well supported application, stat dec’s the lot. Even the medicals, x-rays the whole shebang. After hearing nothing for a full 6 months, I sent them a nice polite email asking that now the lead time had passed, and we had heard nothing, was it possible our application had slipped between the floorboards? They clearly didn’t like this, as within 24 hours we received a refusal of visa notice. They agreed that they believed our relationship was genuine, and were aware that I have significant health issues, but denied that a relationship that was (then) two and a half years old could be considered “long standing”. They also felt that although my previous Thai woman had gone off with another farang, this did not qualify as “desertion”.

You also said "We would like the condition of "no further visa applications to be made"

I take it you don't want the (8503) condition? Well that's up to the case officer and is not something

you can request. And given your history of reapeated visitor visa's and the refusal of the spouse visa,

the chances of not getting it put on would be extremely remote in my opinion.

So I guess your options are: reapply for the partner visa (if the time frame has expired) or another tourist

visa.

It is cheap and quick so why don't you just apply for a tourist visa and see what happens?

The partner visa is the better visa in the long term obviously.

Regards

Will

Ok

Well it sounds as if the spouse application was refused on 2 grounds. The 5 year

waiting period plus the length of time you were seeing your wife.

DIAC have advised by saying "The Thai official at the Aus embassy told us to apply for a spouse visa instead of more tourist visa’a, "

that they really didn't want to keep granting visitor visa's. This MAY have changed now that you've had a spouse visa refused but I doubt it.

So in a nutshell, you only have 2 options as I see it, being visitor or spouse.

If you apply for a spouse visa again, you can always apply for another tourist visa whilst waiting.

You've said the lead time is 12 months. Whilst DIAC say up to 12 months, the waiting time at the

moment seems to be around 6 months (give or take).

If you apply for a tourist visa, you will get a result in approx a week to 10 days. Once you get the

visa, you can see if it has 8503 (no further stay) condition, which is probable. However If it doesn't,

use the visitor visa and apply onshore for the spouse visa. If it has 8503 condition, apply for the spouse

visa in Thailand and she can still use the visitor visa.

So, apply for the visitor visa first and then take it from there.

All the best

Will

Edited February 8, 2012 by Will27

[frankpelagic]

Will, the length of time I was with my wife had relevance to overriding the five year rule. They say grounds for overriding that include abandonment or a long standing relationship. They don't think two and a half years is long standing (It feels like it sometimes )

[Will27]

Will, the length of time I was with my wife had relevance to overriding the five year rule. They say grounds for overriding that include abandonment or a long standing relationship. They don't think two and a half years is long standing (It feels like it sometimes )

Mate

That's what I said. Refused on 2 grounds. If they thought the lenght of time was sufficient, they would've

probably overridden the 5 year period.

Either way, it's all semantics.

You can either apply for visitor first (recommended) or spouse.

Regards

Will

[gburns57au]

Have you considered appealing the refusal of the last Spouse application?

I tend to agree with Will that a further tourist visa application if granted would more than likely have the No further stay condition applied.

[Will27]

Have you considered appealing the refusal of the last Spouse application?

I tend to agree with Will that a further tourist visa application if granted would more than likely have the No further stay condition applied.

The OP is outside of the time limits for an appeal to the Merit Review Tribunal I'm afraid.

Regards

Will

[frankpelagic]

Will, why do you suggest applying for the visitor visa first? I would have to do that, then apply for the spose visa while still in Thailand, before leaving for Australia.

[Will27]

Will, why do you suggest applying for the visitor visa first? I would have to do that, then apply for the spose visa while still in Thailand, before leaving for Australia.

Frank, as explained in post 4. If you apply for a tourist visa and it get's approved without 8503 condition,

you can then apply for a spouse visa in Australia and your wife will be placed on a bridging visa pending outcome.

This would be the best solution for you IMO.

If it does have 8503, she can still go to visit you and put the spouse

application in before you go. You should have everything ready as you've put in an application before.

If the visitor visa is refused, you will have to apply for spouse.

I hope this makes sense.

Regards

Will

[frankpelagic]

OK Will, thanks for all that, and I follow your reasoning. Do you reckon there is much chance of getting a tourist visa for longer than three months? eg 6 or 9 months ? I know there is an option for that on the form, but in reality, does anyone ever get it?

She must be seen as a 'safe bet' by now, having behaved on four previous trips, as well as having sufficient $$ in her bank, and enough to live for 10 years in Australia in my bank.

[Will27]

OK Will, thanks for all that, and I follow your reasoning. Do you reckon there is much chance of getting a tourist visa for longer than three months? eg 6 or 9 months ? I know there is an option for that on the form, but in reality, does anyone ever get it?

She must be seen as a 'safe bet' by now, having behaved on four previous trips, as well as having sufficient $$ in her bank, and enough to live for 10 years in Australia in my bank.

Hey Frank

I'm glad we're on the same page.

You could always ask for a longer stay. They can only say no I guess.

You could request 6 months and they can just issue 3 months if they want to (if they grant).

To be honest, I think your chances of getting anything longer than 3 months are remote at best though.

I wouldn't be surprised if they even refuse a 3 months application.

It's not a case of her "behaving and having funds " as you say. She won't be seen as a "safe bet"

because they know she wants to live with you, so therefore they might think that she won't return

and will try and stay in Australia.

The trouble you have, is that DIAC have advised you that they really don't want to issue anymore

tourist visa's. What you do have in your favour though, is that you did what they asked of you and

applied for a spouse visa.

It's really hard to interpret how they will view this. On the one hand, they make take the view that

you tried for spouse and it was refused, and this is one of the few options you have left

(aside from another spouse application) for your wife to be with you. Or they may take the view,

that your wife has been living in Australia, and in a way, sort of abusing what the visitor visa is for

ie visits.

I would apply for a 3 month tourist visa and have the spouse one ready to go.

The best scenerio is you get a tourist visa without 8503 (lodge spouse in Australia).

Second best is you get the visa with 8503 (lodge spouse in Thailand before you go).

Obviously, the worse case scenerio would be that the tourist visa is refused. Then I would lodge

the spouse visa and ask about another visitor visa pending outcome of the spouse.

Having said all of this, others may disagree or have a better Idea for you.

Good luck

Will

Edited February 10, 2012 by Will27

[Elwood62]

this is the link explaining the 8503 for you http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/52bWaiving_Condition8503.htm

cheers

[frankpelagic]

Is that how they would see it Will, that she would potentially overstay? Even though there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that she would even consider that ? I have a professional occupation and am licensed to practice by government health services. I am easy to locate if I am working, simply by my licence number. If they believe that my wife might potentially break the law, then by inference, they must believe I am prepared to conspire with her to do so. (We fit their definition of a long term relationship, - 3 years). That's an extremely dangerous assumption to make, and if they ever made that statement, then they would have to be prepared to test that in court (as well as trial by media).

[airconsult]

Hi Frank,

I've read all the replies above - and if it helps, I have been in a similiar position in the past.

If you elect for the tourist visa again, what I would suggest is in your supporting sponsor's letter, you note the previous refusal of the spouse visa (quote the file and case number), repeating the reasons as you understand it, state that the department has made this a financially expensive decision, and request that the solution may be that they do not apply the 8503 condition, allowing you to re-apply for a spouse visa onshore.

Writing the exact circumstances in lengthy detail - black and white so to speak, has worked for me before. DIAC staff are generally quite reasonable, but busy, so they tend to take the quickest option unless you specifically state a reason you would like them to consider an alternative.

Cheers

[Son of Metaphoid]

Hi Frank,

I had applied last year for a tourist visa for my GF. Only asked for a 3 month visa so she could visit me here and so we can spend some time together. I had sent everything they asked for, I have a house, Govt. job for 35 years, no real debt and willing to set up medical insurance for the duration of her stay.

She has property in Thailand, mother and father and 2 kids. I suggested previously that she give up her slave-like rag trade job and take it easy until the visa came through.

I thought there was nothing that they could question. All bases covered.

Rejected with the explanation being the legal requirements gobbly-gook which really did not point to anything. Then the rider that we did not know each other long enough (but I was not applying for a not a partner or fiancee visa) then also that they (some Thai national working for the visa service) thought that she did not have enough incentive to return to Thailand....Kids and family were not enough.

My job is reasonably well paid and very responsible and they agreed that I was genuine but in their opinion not enough.

I asked the Principal Officer (via Email) to look at it for me but she agreed with the first assessment stating that the time we were acquainted was inadequate. Again, duration of acquaintance is never mentioned in any of the assisting documents.

My point is; even though they say they stick to strict legalities and guidelines, the reason that both gave me appears to be based on purely subjective opinion.

What really upset me was that a request from a well respected Australian citizen ( me) to have a friend visit here in my country where I have always contributed without predjudice for 50 odd years, was knocked on the head by a subjective opinion offered by a citizen of another country.

How much money are they cleaning up if they refuse the same person on numerous occasions, keeping the fee into the bargain.

Frank I assume you lost handsomely ($A1800) with your last refusal.

I am looking at a Visa agent this time but the fees seem high; anyway, I shouldn't have to...the system seems very flawed.

Good luck.

[gburns57au]

Hi Frank,

I had applied last year for a tourist visa for my GF. Only asked for a 3 month visa so she could visit me here and so we can spend some time together. I had sent everything they asked for, I have a house, Govt. job for 35 years, no real debt and willing to set up medical insurance for the duration of her stay.

She has property in Thailand, mother and father and 2 kids. I suggested previously that she give up her slave-like rag trade job and take it easy until the visa came through.

I thought there was nothing that they could question. All bases covered.

Rejected with the explanation being the legal requirements gobbly-gook which really did not point to anything. Then the rider that we did not know each other long enough (but I was not applying for a not a partner or fiancee visa) then also that they (some Thai national working for the visa service) thought that she did not have enough incentive to return to Thailand....Kids and family were not enough.

My job is reasonably well paid and very responsible and they agreed that I was genuine but in their opinion not enough.

I asked the Principal Officer (via Email) to look at it for me but she agreed with the first assessment stating that the time we were acquainted was inadequate. Again, duration of acquaintance is never mentioned in any of the assisting documents.

My point is; even though they say they stick to strict legalities and guidelines, the reason that both gave me appears to be based on purely subjective opinion.

What really upset me was that a request from a well respected Australian citizen ( me) to have a friend visit here in my country where I have always contributed without predjudice for 50 odd years, was knocked on the head by a subjective opinion offered by a citizen of another country.

How much money are they cleaning up if they refuse the same person on numerous occasions, keeping the fee into the bargain.

Frank I assume you lost handsomely ($A1800) with your last refusal.

I am looking at a Visa agent this time but the fees seem high; anyway, I shouldn't have to...the system seems very flawed.

Good luck.

In general you need to have physically known the person you are supporting for something like at least 4-6 months to show that you actually know the person, this doesnt include time spent on skype or by e mail etc... but proof (photos etc ) that you have met in person.

Family and children are not considered a reason to return.....if they are your reason to return then who is looking after them while you are away? that is the view of the Embassy.

However owning land and property is a reason to return if ownership papers can be shown.

You didnt say how long you have known her or the actual amount of time you have spent together so cant comment on that as a reason for rejection.

Depending on your situation it doesnt sound like you have been picked on or treated in a prejudicial manner as the reasons given are fairly standard.

The next part is not to target you but as a reminder to others also

All applications are treated on their own merits and the Embassy has the right to make decisions based on their risk assessmant of each application irrespective of what the support person does for a living, how long they have been paying tax, etc etc,,,....remember the person applying for the visa is the applicant not the person supporting the application. A Supreme Court Judge could just as easily be refused as a garbo if they havent met the requirements.

If you are acting as an additional funds provider for a tourist visa application then ensure the appropiate section of the form has your details and you show proof of employment and income through Tax receipts, payslips etc..

[gburns57au]

Hi Frank,

I had applied last year for a tourist visa for my GF. Only asked for a 3 month visa so she could visit me here and so we can spend some time together. I had sent everything they asked for, I have a house, Govt. job for 35 years, no real debt and willing to set up medical insurance for the duration of her stay.

She has property in Thailand, mother and father and 2 kids. I suggested previously that she give up her slave-like rag trade job and take it easy until the visa came through.

I thought there was nothing that they could question. All bases covered.

Rejected with the explanation being the legal requirements gobbly-gook which really did not point to anything. Then the rider that we did not know each other long enough (but I was not applying for a not a partner or fiancee visa) then also that they (some Thai national working for the visa service) thought that she did not have enough incentive to return to Thailand....Kids and family were not enough.

My job is reasonably well paid and very responsible and they agreed that I was genuine but in their opinion not enough.

I asked the Principal Officer (via Email) to look at it for me but she agreed with the first assessment stating that the time we were acquainted was inadequate. Again, duration of acquaintance is never mentioned in any of the assisting documents.

My point is; even though they say they stick to strict legalities and guidelines, the reason that both gave me appears to be based on purely subjective opinion.

What really upset me was that a request from a well respected Australian citizen ( me) to have a friend visit here in my country where I have always contributed without predjudice for 50 odd years, was knocked on the head by a subjective opinion offered by a citizen of another country.

How much money are they cleaning up if they refuse the same person on numerous occasions, keeping the fee into the bargain.

Frank I assume you lost handsomely ($A1800) with your last refusal.

I am looking at a Visa agent this time but the fees seem high; anyway, I shouldn't have to...the system seems very flawed.

Good luck.

In general you need to have physically known the person you are supporting for something like at least 4-6 months to show that you actually know the person, this doesnt include time spent on skype or by e mail or chat rooms etc... but proof (photos etc ) that you have met in person. You dont need to show a relationship staus either.

Family and children are not considered a reason to return.....if they are your reason to return then who is looking after them while you are away? that is the view of the Embassy, remember that some girls leave their children in the villages while they work away for very long periods of time.

However owning land and property is a reason to return if ownership papers can be shown.

You didnt say how long you have known her or the actual amount of time you have spent together so cant comment on that as a reason for rejection.

Depending on your situation it doesnt sound like you have been picked on or treated in a prejudicial manner as the reasons given are fairly standard. BTW....It is an Aussie who makes the final decision not a citizen of another country

The next part is not to target you but as a reminder to others also

All applications are treated on their own merits and the Embassy has the right to make decisions based on their risk assessmant of each application irrespective of what the support person does for a living, how long they have been paying tax, etc etc,,,....remember the person applying for the visa is the applicant not the person supporting the application. A Supreme Court Judge could just as easily be refused as a garbo if they havent met the requirements.

If you are acting as an additional funds provider for a tourist visa application then ensure the appropiate section of the form has your details and you show proof of employment and income through Tax receipts, payslips etc..

Edited February 12, 2012 by gburns57au

[Son of Metaphoid]

Thanks gburns,

yes it was only 5 or 6 months that I had known her but we had met in person and stayed together for 3 weeks prior to the application.

Perhaps you are right about the final decision but I have a strong feeling that the Thai national made the call and the Oz official wasn't prepared to over-rule or didn't even look at it until my request.

I had sent a JP signed payslip and all other details including my full financial situation.

My GF also submitted the deed papers of her land and her 2 vehicles (motorbikes only), a couple of photos and everything that they had suggested in the help documents.

I see that you have faith ih the objectivity of officialdom, however I have my reservations.

Nevermind, I have been back a couple of times since and it is now 12 months and we keep contact everyday on Skype so I will try again.

Having her here for 3 months would have been much nicer, cheaper and more convenient for us and the catch-22 situation would be that 3 months would have been a longer period of association to verify the relationship.

Thanks again and Frank, let us know how you went.

[gburns57au]

Thanks gburns,

yes it was only 5 or 6 months that I had known her but we had met in person and stayed together for 3 weeks prior to the application.

Perhaps you are right about the final decision but I have a strong feeling that the Thai national made the call and the Oz official wasn't prepared to over-rule or didn't even look at it until my request.

I had sent a JP signed payslip and all other details including my full financial situation.

My GF also submitted the deed papers of her land and her 2 vehicles (motorbikes only), a couple of photos and everything that they had suggested in the help documents.

I see that you have faith ih the objectivity of officialdom, however I have my reservations.

Nevermind, I have been back a couple of times since and it is now 12 months and we keep contact everyday on Skype so I will try again.

Having her here for 3 months would have been much nicer, cheaper and more convenient for us and the catch-22 situation would be that 3 months would have been a longer period of association to verify the relationship.

Thanks again and Frank, let us know how you went.

So in the view of the Embassy you had only physically known her for 3 weeks at that time. unfortunately that was a doomed application. Now you have a more established history the next application should go a lot better.

Case Officers do make recommendations on the visa applications and how much weight is given to that is an unknown quantity.

Faith in Officialdom......not really, they have a job to do and for the most part they do it pretty well, but sometimes I have been totally flummoxed by some of the decisions I have seen.

Good luck with the next one

[rizenkroft]

I think you should use a professional visa service as their are many in pattaya and Bangkok. Much less hassle, English run and you only pay once the visa has passed, I have just done this for a 2 year spouse visa for my missus and she has only travelled to aus once on a tourist visa.

[sparebox2]

I think you should use a professional visa service as their are many in pattaya and Bangkok. Much less hassle, English run and you only pay once the visa has passed, I have just done this for a 2 year spouse visa for my missus and she has only travelled to aus once on a tourist visa.

" you only pay once the visa has passed" - Is there such thing?

[Will27]

I think you should use a professional visa service as their are many in pattaya and Bangkok. Much less hassle, English run and you only pay once the visa has passed, I have just done this for a 2 year spouse visa for my missus and she has only travelled to aus once on a tourist visa.

rizenkroft

Would be interested to know how much agents charge for lodging a spouse application

if you don't mind.

Regards

Will

Edited February 13, 2012 by Will27

[rizenkroft]

All the visa companies that I know of in pattaya operate on the customer only paying a small deposit as in my case 5000 bht until the visa has been granted. Spouse visa includes approx $2000 aus embassy fee which I do not think is refundable is the visa is rejected. The visa company fee is and extra $2000 approx. it may not be the cheap but I have had to supply very little documents to the company and they have sorted the rest, very little hassle from my end. The companies take care of all your partners side is the application.

Training her for the mandatory embassy interview pulse taxi to and from bkk for the interview. Taxiing to and from medical centre for her medical check which is chosen by the aus embassy.

Doing your visa this way guarantees the visa with no stress as it allows you to continue working without having to involve yourself at all after supplying the initial documentation.

3 companies i reccomend in pattaya are; key visa, soi lk metro. Easy visa, tapprahya road near jomtien, ok visa located near the dolphin roundabout north pattaya.

[Will27]

All the visa companies that I know of in pattaya operate on the customer only paying a small deposit as in my case 5000 bht until the visa has been granted. Spouse visa includes approx $2000 aus embassy fee which I do not think is refundable is the visa is rejected. The visa company fee is and extra $2000 approx. it may not be the cheap but I have had to supply very little documents to the company and they have sorted the rest, very little hassle from my end. The companies take care of all your partners side is the application.

Training her for the mandatory embassy interview pulse taxi to and from bkk for the interview. Taxiing to and from medical centre for her medical check which is chosen by the aus embassy.

Doing your visa this way guarantees the visa with no stress as it allows you to continue working without having to involve yourself at all after supplying the initial documentation.

3 companies i reccomend in pattaya are; key visa, soi lk metro. Easy visa, tapprahya road near jomtien, ok visa located near the dolphin roundabout north pattaya.

Thanks for that rizenkroft.

You're right, not cheap but many would find it an invaluable service.

Regards

Will

[Son of Metaphoid]

Hi again chaps,

I think the 'no visa no pay' thing refers only to the Visa Company fee, whereas the Embassy charges are 'up front' ( I think ) and are non-refundable.

[Elwood62]

Hi again chaps,

I think the 'no visa no pay' thing refers only to the Visa Company fee, whereas the Embassy charges are 'up front' ( I think ) and are non-refundable.

yes you are correct there

[rizenkroft]

As in a tourist visa for Australia you are correct you do have to pay the 5000 bht embassy fee upfront. If you are trying to obtain a spouse visa I do suggest you shop around. In my case I only paid 5000 bht deposit until collection of the passport with visa inside. This maybe different for other countries.

[frankpelagic]

Easy Visa ???????????????? You're kidding aren't you??? I hesitate to state my reasons for all the ??????????? on this forum.

[Son of Metaphoid]

Frank,

Are you referring to the Easy Visa service because I have read some disparaging reports.

Have you tried a Visa service before as I haven't and would like to hear your thoughts.