Help Mom'S Visa Expired But Also Have Thai Passort

[madz]

Dear all,

My mom has 2 passports, thai and swedish.

She came in Thailand with the swedish passport and she forgot to renew the visa so its one month overdue, she went immigration and they told her need to pay 20k fees.

Is there a way around this?

Maybe go neighboring country with thai passport and then come back in with swedish one?

Please advise.

Thanks in advance.

[Mario2008]

1 month overstay would be 15,000 baht (500 baht per day, with a maximum of 20,000). She can refuse to pay and go to court and see if the judge will remove the fine as she is Thai. (Never heard of anyone doing that).

For now, she can either get an extension of stay (after paying for the overstay) on submitting her Thai passport as well as her Swedish one. Or leave the country on the Swedish passport (after paying the overstay fine) and retun on her Thai passport.

Immirgation will consider her subject to immigration rules when she enters with a foreign passport. As said, no knowledge how a Thai judge will consider this.

[madz]

Thank you, so the only way would be paying the fine....

[Mario2008]

Correct, with the option of contesting the fine (which will take time and money).

[madz]

I was thinking if she went to cambodia with thai passort and enter thailand with swedish one... but then maybe they would see she didnt stamp out...

[necronx99]

1 month overstay would be 15,000 baht (500 baht per day, with a maximum of 20,000). She can refuse to pay and go to court and see if the judge will remove the fine as she is Thai. (Never heard of anyone doing that).

For now, she can either get an extension of stay (after paying for the overstay) on submitting her Thai passport as well as her Swedish one. Or leave the country on the Swedish passport (after paying the overstay fine) and retun on her Thai passport.

Immirgation will consider her subject to immigration rules when she enters with a foreign passport. As said, no knowledge how a Thai judge will consider this.

Regardless of which passport was used to enter, how can a citizen have visa issues in her own country?

One of the first requirements for a visa would be that you NOT be a citizen, a citizen would be ineligible.

What stops her leaving LOS on her way back to Sweden on her Thai pport?

[Jayman]

1 month overstay would be 15,000 baht (500 baht per day, with a maximum of 20,000). She can refuse to pay and go to court and see if the judge will remove the fine as she is Thai. (Never heard of anyone doing that).

For now, she can either get an extension of stay (after paying for the overstay) on submitting her Thai passport as well as her Swedish one. Or leave the country on the Swedish passport (after paying the overstay fine) and retun on her Thai passport.

Immirgation will consider her subject to immigration rules when she enters with a foreign passport. As said, no knowledge how a Thai judge will consider this.

Regardless of which passport was used to enter, how can a citizen have visa issues in her own country?

One of the first requirements for a visa would be that you NOT be a citizen, a citizen would be ineligible.

What stops her leaving LOS on her way back to Sweden on her Thai pport?

I don't think anything stops her for doing that but without the exit stamp in her swedish passport then Thai immigration will think she is still in country and the time will keep ticking. When she comes back to Thailand of course she should be using her Thai passport (she should always be using thai passport to enter/exit thailand). This doesn't sound like the best way to handle this. She needs to pay the fine and submit her thai passort to immigration so she can get an extension or leave and pay the fine getting a stamp out on Swedish passport and re-enter on the Thai passport like she should have done in the first place.

Was that an accident that she even entered Thailand on her Swedish passport? Did she forget she was Thai?

[lopburi3]

She is in Thailand as a foreign citizen and must abide by normal visa requirements. She either needs to pay and extend for one year (paying normal extension of stay fee) or depart by air on current passport after paying overstay and return on Thai passport. Computer would likely pick up any attempt to exit on Thai passport (if same name) and land crossings closely watch entry/exit stamps so very hard to make a passport switch unless using air.

[IMA_FARANG]

1 month overstay would be 15,000 baht (500 baht per day, with a maximum of 20,000). She can refuse to pay and go to court and see if the judge will remove the fine as she is Thai. (Never heard of anyone doing that).

For now, she can either get an extension of stay (after paying for the overstay) on submitting her Thai passport as well as her Swedish one. Or leave the country on the Swedish passport (after paying the overstay fine) and retun on her Thai passport.

Immirgation will consider her subject to immigration rules when she enters with a foreign passport. As said, no knowledge how a Thai judge will consider this.

Regardless of which passport was used to enter, how can a citizen have visa issues in her own country?

One of the first requirements for a visa would be that you NOT be a citizen, a citizen would be ineligible.

What stops her leaving LOS on her way back to Sweden on her Thai pport?

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Because she has dual nationality.

She entered the country on her Swedish passprt as a Swedish national. Therefore immigration expects her to exit the country as a Swedish national. So as a Swedish national, she overstayed and has to pay the fine...as would any Swedish national.

Now if she had entered Thailand on her Thai passport...there would be no overstay...because Thais don't need Thai visas in their own country.

That's why dual nationals should always exit and enter Thailand on their Thai visa...and use their dual nationality other country passport to enter and exit that country..

That's the way the immigration looks at it.

[Sammy80]

Was that an accident that she even entered Thailand on her Swedish passport? Did she forget she was Thai?

Don't know if that was intentionally written to sound hilarious, but it is !! ( no offence to OP)

There must be some reason for coming in on a foreign passport, maybe lost her Thai passport temporarilly, which may be mitigating circumstances if could be proven ?