Skywalker69 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 The Yingluck administration has consistently failed to acknowledge the misdeeds of its members. She is afraid to condemn the action of Jeng, afraid of stepping on the Red Shirt´s.She needs their support. One wrong step and they can turn against her and PTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrysteve Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) PM Should SACK Judges for taking BRIBES too!!! Edited August 22, 2012 by jerrysteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Red Shirt Leader/PTP MP Natthawut said that Dokjik going back to prison was the fate of a warrior. The court in its ruling said the evidence indicated that Dokjik's actions, his voice, his facial exp<b></b>ressions, and physical gestures proved his intent to incite violence and hate at the time and thus were unconvinced of his claims that no ill will intended. Good-bye Hello Khaosod (article in Thai) http://www.khaosod.co.th/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNME5UWXlOVFkxT0E9PQ==&catid=01 Edited August 23, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrysteve Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 THEY should PURGE all the Judges for Taking BRIBES. but all the seats would be empty I think. but there isn't any rule of Law Any Way, so what different would it make besides none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The Yingluck administration has consistently failed to acknowledge the misdeeds of its members. She is afraid to condemn the action of Jeng, afraid of stepping on the Red Shirt´s.She needs their support. One wrong step and they can turn against her and PTP. Just as the Yellows turned on Abhisit when he wasn't nationalist enough to their liking. When action groups lose their original reason for existence, they typically go nationalist and/or more extreme in their views, to try and re-grab a bigger public share after loosing core supporters of the original goals, that were attained. Happened to the yellows and also the reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 THEY should PURGE all the Judges for Taking BRIBES. but all the seats would be empty I think. but there isn't any rule of Law Any Way, so what different would it make besides none Could you clarify? Are you accusing judges of taking bribes to revoke bail in what seems a fairly clear case of breach, or of taking bribes not to revoke bail of the other indicted criminals, or a general rant at the Thai court system without specifics, or none of the above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 THEY should PURGE all the Judges for Taking BRIBES. but all the seats would be empty I think. but there isn't any rule of Law Any Way, so what different would it make besides none Could you clarify? Are you accusing judges of taking bribes to revoke bail in what seems a fairly clear case of breach, or of taking bribes not to revoke bail of the other indicted criminals, or a general rant at the Thai court system without specifics, or none of the above? I don't know cases, but it is an open secret that many judges are taking bribes. Specially at the lower ranking courts. Another thing is intimidation. Who want to be killed for revoking or not revoking bail. And don't forget the pastry box a couple of years ago....They wouldn't have tried it if it would be clear that judges can't be bribed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Red-shirt leaders visit Yoswaris at Bangkok Remand Prison Several red-shirt leaders visited their peer Yoswaris Chuklom at the Bangkok Remand Prison Thursday, a day after his bail was revoked. The red-shirt leaders were allowed to meet Yoswaris from 11:30 am to 12 pm. Those visiting Yoswaris included Thida Thavornset, Weng Tojirakarn, and Korkaew Pikulthong. -- The Nation 2012-08-23 Edited August 23, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawnie Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 What a bunch of partisan bullies and wimps here. It's okay for the Army to shoot innocent people using snipers, but it's a serious crime to release the addresses of government employees? Typical, typical, typical.....no wonder Thailand remains in the ditch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) After visiting Red Shirt Leader Dokjik in prison, Red Leader Chairwoman Thida said that Red Shirt lawyers were preparing to reapply for a new bail for him. She said the Pheu Thai Party Leader and Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth as well as Pheu Thai Party MP and Justice Minister Pracha would act as guarantors for the bail request. Thida's husband, Pheu Thai Party MP and Red Shirt Leader Weng said Dokjik was only using his right to free speech in order to educate people. . Edited August 23, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 In countries like Thailand, judges can be bought and bribed,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Red-shirt leaders visit Yoswaris at Bangkok Remand Prison Several red-shirt leaders visited their peer Yoswaris Chuklom at the Bangkok Remand Prison Thursday, a day after his bail was revoked. The red-shirt leaders were allowed to meet Yoswaris from 11:30 am to 12 pm. Those visiting Yoswaris included Thida Thavornset, Weng Tojirakarn, and Korkaew Pikulthong. -- The Nation 2012-08-23 Mummy bear, Daddy bear and itsy witsy halfwit bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 What a bunch of partisan bullies and wimps here. It's okay for the Army to shoot innocent people using snipers, but it's a serious crime to release the addresses of government employees? Typical, typical, typical.....no wonder Thailand remains in the ditch. Typical, typical, typical.... a red shirt using the "but the PAD, but Abhisit, but the airport, but the army, but the..." "defence". Red shirts could nuke Bangkok today and tomorrow all we'd be hearing is, "well PAD did set the precedent with all those people sitting at the airport". No red crime is too big or too small to be blamed on someone else. Pathetic, pathetic pathetic... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Red leaders to seek bail for Jeng next week Red leaders will submit a new bail request for colleague Yoswarit Chooklom next week, Pheu Thai partylist MP and red shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said Thursday. Red co-leader Yoswarit, better known as Jeng Dokjik, had his bail revoked by the Criminal Court on Wednesday for violating conditions for public release. Weng said red shirts accepted the court's decision to revoke Jeng's bail, as well as new conditions for other accused reds. "We preparing a fresh application for the release on bail of Yosawarit nevt week. Moreover Pheu Thai Party leader and Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit and Justice Minister Pracha Promnok were expected to be named in the bail application as guarantors that Yossawaris would not again break the bail conditions" Weng said. -- The Nation 2012-08-23 Edited August 23, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiOats Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Red leaders to seek bail for Jeng next week Red leaders will submit a new bail request for colleague Yoswarit Chooklom next week, Pheu Thai partylist MP and red shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said Thursday. Red co-leader Yoswarit, better known as Jeng Dokjik, had his bail revoked by the Criminal Court on Wednesday for violating conditions for public release. Weng said red shirts accepted the court's decision to revoke Jeng's bail, as well as new conditions for other accused reds. "We preparing a fresh application for the release on bail of Yosawarit nevt week. Moreover Pheu Thai Party leader and Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit and Justice Minister Pracha Promnok were expected to be named in the bail application as guarantors that Yossawaris would not again break the bail conditions" Weng said. -- The Nation 2012-08-23 Might as well have Thaksin be a guarantor. I seriously hope that they deny him bail and putting their foot down instead of this BS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Red leaders to seek bail for Jeng next week Red leaders will submit a new bail request for colleague Yoswarit Chooklom next week, Pheu Thai partylist MP and red shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said Thursday. Red co-leader Yoswarit, better known as Jeng Dokjik, had his bail revoked by the Criminal Court on Wednesday for violating conditions for public release. Weng said red shirts accepted the court's decision to revoke Jeng's bail, as well as new conditions for other accused reds. "We preparing a fresh application for the release on bail of Yosawarit nevt week. Moreover Pheu Thai Party leader and Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit and Justice Minister Pracha Promnok were expected to be named in the bail application as guarantors that Yossawaris would not again break the bail conditions" Weng said. -- The Nation 2012-08-23 OK - so if he breaks bail conditions again, the guarantors go to gaol too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Red leaders to seek bail for Jeng next week Red leaders will submit a new bail request for colleague Yoswarit Chooklom next week, Pheu Thai partylist MP and red shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said Thursday. Red co-leader Yoswarit, better known as Jeng Dokjik, had his bail revoked by the Criminal Court on Wednesday for violating conditions for public release. Weng said red shirts accepted the court's decision to revoke Jeng's bail, as well as new conditions for other accused reds. "We preparing a fresh application for the release on bail of Yosawarit nevt week. Moreover Pheu Thai Party leader and Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit and Justice Minister Pracha Promnok were expected to be named in the bail application as guarantors that Yossawaris would not again break the bail conditions" Weng said. -- The Nation 2012-08-23 OK - so if he breaks bail conditions again, the guarantors go to gaol too? Exactly..........oh but wait a minute, those acting as guarantors all have parliamentary immunity! Any Government throughout the world with half an ounce of integrity and sense would be getting rid of this guy immediately and would distance themselves. Oh no, not in Thailand, here we have Deputy Prime Ministers ready to act as Guarantors, it is absolutely shameful. Thailand, nice Country, nice people, but the political system and the politicians are a crock of sh*t! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiOats Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Red leaders to seek bail for Jeng next week Red leaders will submit a new bail request for colleague Yoswarit Chooklom next week, Pheu Thai partylist MP and red shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said Thursday. Red co-leader Yoswarit, better known as Jeng Dokjik, had his bail revoked by the Criminal Court on Wednesday for violating conditions for public release. Weng said red shirts accepted the court's decision to revoke Jeng's bail, as well as new conditions for other accused reds. "We preparing a fresh application for the release on bail of Yosawarit nevt week. Moreover Pheu Thai Party leader and Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit and Justice Minister Pracha Promnok were expected to be named in the bail application as guarantors that Yossawaris would not again break the bail conditions" Weng said. -- The Nation 2012-08-23 OK - so if he breaks bail conditions again, the guarantors go to gaol too? Only to get bail themselves I reckon. Bail out the whole dam_n country and nevermind the time needed to repent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Will she sack him when he fails to show up for work next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Will she sack him when he fails to show up for work next week? He is Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister. His boss is Yongyuth. The same guy that wants to act as guarantor for his bail. If he fails in his bid to bail him out, I'm sure he'll just issue an authorized leave of absence for an indefinite amount of time (paid, of course). . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noistar Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The start of how the Charter changes will end up. Government (believe they are) not subject to the law. Shock, horror, they are. So let's do everything we can to work around it. Like the bit about breaking bail conditions 'again'. How many goes do they get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Like I said before, here in Thailand, judges and law enforcers ate so weak, they can get bribed,... or otherwise they're gonna get themselves shot and nobody will compensate for their families, not the all might top to bottom Phu Yai politician... Edited August 23, 2012 by MaxLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Will she sack him when he fails to show up for work next week? He is Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister. His boss is Yongyuth. The same guy that wants to act as guarantor for his bail. If he fails in his bid to bail him out, I'm sure he'll just issue an authorized leave of absence for an indefinite amount of time (paid, of course). . IMHO paying a public servant while he is incarcerated for crimes committed before his appointment would be illegal - but I have no problems if they wish to share a cell. Actually, appointing someone indicted for serious crimes is borderline, but when that appointment is payback for committing them from a beneficiary to those criminal acts, there is little doubt of corruption due to the conflict of interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 What a bunch of partisan bullies and wimps here. It's okay for the Army to shoot innocent people using snipers, but it's a serious crime to release the addresses of government employees? Typical, typical, typical.....no wonder Thailand remains in the ditch. There were no innocent victims. Each and every one of them knew they were in a area of armed conflict and made a choice to enter it and some even lived in it. You red shirts are a real piece of work. Two years later and still playing the victom role. Not one admission of a wrong doing on your part. do you really think you could have pulled a stunt like that with Thaksin and got away with less than 100 dead on both sides? Just a bunch of sore losers with deep pockets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Red leaders to seek bail for Jeng next week Red leaders will submit a new bail request for colleague Yoswarit Chooklom next week, Pheu Thai partylist MP and red shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said Thursday. Red co-leader Yoswarit, better known as Jeng Dokjik, had his bail revoked by the Criminal Court on Wednesday for violating conditions for public release. Weng said red shirts accepted the court's decision to revoke Jeng's bail, as well as new conditions for other accused reds. "We preparing a fresh application for the release on bail of Yosawarit nevt week. Moreover Pheu Thai Party leader and Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit and Justice Minister Pracha Promnok were expected to be named in the bail application as guarantors that Yossawaris would not again break the bail conditions" Weng said. -- The Nation 2012-08-23 OK - so if he breaks bail conditions again, the guarantors go to gaol too? Exactly..........oh but wait a minute, those acting as guarantors all have parliamentary immunity! Any Government throughout the world with half an ounce of integrity and sense would be getting rid of this guy immediately and would distance themselves. Oh no, not in Thailand, here we have Deputy Prime Ministers ready to act as Guarantors, it is absolutely shameful. Thailand, nice Country, nice people, but the political system and the politicians are a crock of sh*t! Nothing wrong with the political system It works OK in many countries. But why are you being so nice to the politicians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Whenever you read the word "urged" in a nation headline, it means that no one will do anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I see Dokjik is settling in nicely and he seems to be enjoying his new accommodations tremendously. Thai Rath (article in Thai) http://www.thairath.co.th/content/pol/285976 Naew Na (article in Thai) http://www.naewna.com/politic/19524 A salute right back at ya, Dokjik. Enjoy your stay. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Red Shirt Lawyer Winyat Chartmontree today made a new request for bail for Red Shirt Leader and Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister Dokjik today. He offered 600,000 Baht as bail collateral. Additionally Pheu Thai Party MP and Justice Minister Justice Minister Pracha Promnok and former banned Thai Rak Thai Party MP and Deputy Interior Minister Sermsak Pongpanich signed the bail request as guarantors. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTao Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Red Shirt Lawyer Winyat Chartmontree today made a new request for bail for Red Shirt Leader and Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister Dokjik today. He offered 600,000 Baht as bail collateral. Additionally Pheu Thai Party MP and Justice Minister Justice Minister Pracha Promnok and former banned Thai Rak Thai Party MP and Deputy Interior Minister Sermsak Pongpanich signed the bail request as guarantors. . Why is the justice minister going guarentor for a convicted criminal? Couldn't that be classed as a conflict of interest? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Red Shirt Lawyer Winyat Chartmontree today made a new request for bail for Red Shirt Leader and Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister Dokjik today. He offered 600,000 Baht as bail collateral. Additionally Pheu Thai Party MP and Justice Minister Justice Minister Pracha Promnok and former banned Thai Rak Thai Party MP and Deputy Interior Minister Sermsak Pongpanich signed the bail request as guarantors. . Why is the justice minister going guarentor for a convicted criminal? Couldn't that be classed as a conflict of interest? Absolutely, but par for the course. The fear is that if any of the red shirt leaders are committed for any serious period of time they might decide to grass on the people who instigated and paid for the 2010 insurgency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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