NomadJoe Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) Did you call (again) to PG or did they checked the discussion here? This was just pushed up on their FB feed. http://www.phuketgazette.net/issuesanswers/details.asp?id=1314 All the local papers are looking to do a story, and a large conservation group out off Patts called The Dive Tribe is getting the Post and The Nation to do pieces. Next step is identifying these guys I found at the Kata fish market today. I have never seen this species here before. They obviously aren't black tips which we get quite often. Edited May 12, 2013 by NomadJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Sincere thanks to all you guys (and gals?) who are putting out efforts to stem this despicable harvest. Thais care about 'face' - particularly how it affects their tourist industry, because that's their golden goose. They won't attempt to fix these sorts of problems unless there's pressure from concerned farang, because left to their own devices, they'd just keep doing it. Keep up the pressure. Some of us in the north (where there is only fishing in ponds and rivers) are behind you 100%. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Will go to Baan Zaan again today & take pics if I see anything - as an ocean user/consumer I am disgusted when I see these things! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'm guessing that the baby sharks are just a side-catch. Stopping their sale in restaurants is not going to reduce shark deaths. They will just resort to dumping them over-board. Just sayin' like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'm guessing that the baby sharks are just a side-catch. Stopping their sale in restaurants is not going to reduce shark deaths. They will just resort to dumping them over-board. Just sayin' like. Sad but very true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'm guessing that the baby sharks are just a side-catch. Stopping their sale in restaurants is not going to reduce shark deaths. They will just resort to dumping them over-board. Just sayin' like. Sad but very true! When surface fish were over-fished, corporate fishing boats resorted to going deeper and getting Orange Ruffie. Now they're essentially destroyed Orange Ruddie stocks, so they'll continue to overfish wherever they can. Got to amass as much money as possible for today, because who cares about next week or next month, eh?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantFan Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Saw a BBC doco the other day that said that wild fish stocks will be depleted by 2050. That's scarey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Saw a BBC doco the other day that said that wild fish stocks will be depleted by 2050. That's scarey. In some regions, fish stocks are already seriously depleted. A comparison: In north America, up to 100 years ago, there were so many carrier pigeons that they would blacken the sky for tens of minutes as they flew over. Hunters happily shot them, thinking it impossible that they'd ever be depleted. Lo and behold, within several years, they were extinct. Same sort of thing is happening to many types of ocean fish. If you talk to fishermen or fish dealers, they'll probably just laugh (or get angry) if you mention over-fishing. Yet it's happening now, and can only get worse, unless there's a sea change of perspective on the whole issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Saw a BBC doco the other day that said that wild fish stocks will be depleted by 2050. That's scarey. In some regions, fish stocks are already seriously depleted. A comparison: In north America, up to 100 years ago, there were so many carrier pigeons that they would blacken the sky for tens of minutes as they flew over. Hunters happily shot them, thinking it impossible that they'd ever be depleted. Lo and behold, within several years, they were extinct. Same sort of thing is happening to many types of ocean fish. If you talk to fishermen or fish dealers, they'll probably just laugh (or get angry) if you mention over-fishing. Yet it's happening now, and can only get worse, unless there's a sea change of perspective on the whole issue. Carrier pigeons??? Do you mean Passenger Pigeons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantFan Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Yes, just did a wiki on Passenger Pigeon. 3 - 5 billion before the arrival of settlers in the US. Extinct about 300 years later. Never knew about this. Cheap meat for settlers and eventually, slaves. Over hunting and deforestation did them in. Seems odd that they didn't notice the shear loss of numbers??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterocket Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) Saw a BBC doco the other day that said that wild fish stocks will be depleted by 2050. That's scarey. In some regions, fish stocks are already seriously depleted. A comparison: In north America, up to 100 years ago, there were so many carrier pigeons that they would blacken the sky for tens of minutes as they flew over. Hunters happily shot them, thinking it impossible that they'd ever be depleted. Lo and behold, within several years, they were extinct. Same sort of thing is happening to many types of ocean fish. If you talk to fishermen or fish dealers, they'll probably just laugh (or get angry) if you mention over-fishing. Yet it's happening now, and can only get worse, unless there's a sea change of perspective on the whole issue. Carrier pigeons??? Do you mean Passenger Pigeons? Never heard of a passenger pigeon...but the carrier pigeons aren't extinct Edited May 13, 2013 by Peterocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 The pigeons were so abundant, that they would sometimes cause a large tree branches to crack and fall, just by the weight of so many birds sitting on them. Their guano would cover the ground, inches thick. One way to catch them, was to tie a string to one bird's leg, and set it someplace - its cries would attract a flock of its mates, who would come to to its aid. Factory fishing ships, from many countries, are decimating ocean fish stocks. They commonly run 5 Km fishing nets, up to a Km deep. Often, the fishermen also destroy everything on the ocean floor, as their heavy nets are dragged. For a person who cares about sea life, a video of a net being pulled along a sea floor is akin to watching a thick oil slick hitting a pristine beach which was full of frolicking seals and seagulls, just moments before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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