New Military Tactics For South: Thailand

[rubl]

In the wake of a surge in insurgency violence and frequent car-bomb attacks in the deep South, new military tactics and heightened security measures will be deployed, including armed aerial reconnaissance, Defence Minister Sukampol Suwannathat said yesterday.

Obviously the MoD Sukampol cannot and will not discuss details of the 'new military tactics'. Nothing wrong with that. It just seems that the heightened security measures are nothing really new, more like 'more of the same' as we've seen over the last decennia

[AmusingBellyDancers]

@sunshine51. A personal thanks from me for your effort to provide insights to the reality of the situation in the Deep South.

What were the insights he provided? I think I missed them

[AmusingBellyDancers]

One last thought though....It would be good if the Thai Government

stops mucking about with invented problems and initiates a dusk

to after dawn SOS (Shoot On Site) curfew in the Southern Provinces.

At least it keeps the bad guys visible to an extent. Won't be the be

and end all but it will sure help matters until the Government coins

a workable plan...whatever that will be.

Do you know where the south of Thailand is? Have you ever been there?

Why do you say "Southern Provinces"? Did you know that the southern provinces begin at Chumpon?

Do you think there should be "a dusk to after dawn SOS (Shoot On Site) curfew" in Phuket? Phuket is a Southern Province.

Do you know about the ethnicity of Muslims in the three provinces?

I won't go on. You should read more and learn about history.

[sunshine51]

One last thought though....It would be good if the Thai Government

stops mucking about with invented problems and initiates a dusk

to after dawn SOS (Shoot On Site) curfew in the Southern Provinces.

At least it keeps the bad guys visible to an extent. Won't be the be

and end all but it will sure help matters until the Government coins

a workable plan...whatever that will be.

Do you know where the south of Thailand is? Have you ever been there?

Why do you say "Southern Provinces"? Did you know that the southern provinces begin at Chumpon?

Do you think there should be "a dusk to after dawn SOS (Shoot On Site) curfew" in Phuket? Phuket is a Southern Province.

Do you know about the ethnicity of Muslims in the three provinces?

I won't go on. You should read more and learn about history.

Well...Well...we have a supposed expert here do we?

Not to be disrespectful to you but if you have been keeping

up with the "Southern Discomfort" you may well understand

that the provinces we are discussing are...

1. Narathiwat.

2. Yala.

3. Pattani.

4. Songkla.

5. Satun.

The 5 Southern Provinces which border Malaysia are the

ones being discussed. Mind you only 3 of the provinces

are under immediate discussion because they were

once the mainstay of the Pattani Sultanate and are

highly desirous of the return of that Sultanate today.

Plus they are the ones where most of the problems

happen.

Songkla and Satun are rather quiet all things considering

until bombs detonate or terrorists start shooting up Hatyai.

I know a fair bit about Thai Muslim ethnicity perhaps

more than you or parhaps less than you. This is not

a topic of this thread...who knows more or what or

less.

I live in Krabi these days having moved here from

Phuket 4 years ago, where I moved to after 10

years in Bangkok. I have lived in Southeast Asia

for 42 years son and have many more years left

as far as an old fart can determine.

I will apologise to you for not explaining "Southern

Provinces" in a manner in which you understand

I read history...lots of it and I live in the present

to hopefully assist future history readers.

You have a great day.

[OzMick]

Dusk to dawn curfew, shoot on sight? What are you trying to do, turn Sungai Kolok into a copy of Khota Bharu, one of the most boring towns on earth? Where would all the Malay hypocrites go for their sex, booze and rock and roll?

[sunshine51]

Dusk to dawn curfew, shoot on sight? What are you trying to do, turn Sungai Kolok into a copy of Khota Bharu, one of the most boring towns on earth? Where would all the Malay hypocrites go for their sex, booze and rock and roll?

OK...maybe I'm being too draconian...I will instruct my field commanders

to only apply said curfew in Pattani, Narathiwat and Yala Provinces for

the time being. As for the "Malay Hypocrites" they can get their fun in

Songkla & Satun Provinces, it's not that far of a drive from Kota Baru,

as long as they behave. Plenty of "entertainment outlets" there for all to

share. I can even recommend few to those in need of this type of intelligence information if they can prove an actual "need to know"....on a case by case

basis.

Edited August 3, 2012 by sunshine51

[simple1]

@sunshine51. A personal thanks from me for your effort to provide insights to the reality of the situation in the Deep South.

What were the insights he provided? I think I missed them

Try re-reading his post - and understand the "message" he is conveying. Perhaps you have missed some of his posts in other threads, but he does work in the conflict areas. However, if he wishes to do so, I'm sure he is more than capable of responding to you if you need further clarification

[AmusingBellyDancers]

One last thought though....It would be good if the Thai Government

stops mucking about with invented problems and initiates a dusk

to after dawn SOS (Shoot On Site) curfew in the Southern Provinces.

At least it keeps the bad guys visible to an extent. Won't be the be

and end all but it will sure help matters until the Government coins

a workable plan...whatever that will be.

Do you know where the south of Thailand is? Have you ever been there?

Why do you say "Southern Provinces"? Did you know that the southern provinces begin at Chumpon?

Do you think there should be "a dusk to after dawn SOS (Shoot On Site) curfew" in Phuket? Phuket is a Southern Province.

Do you know about the ethnicity of Muslims in the three provinces?

I won't go on. You should read more and learn about history.

Well...Well...we have a supposed expert here do we? Not to be disrespectful to you but if you have been keeping up with the "Southern Discomfort" you may well understand that the provinces we are discussing are...

1. Narathiwat.

2. Yala.

3. Pattani.

4. Songkla.

5. Satun.

The 5 Southern Provinces which border Malaysia are the ones being discussed. Mind you only 3 of the provinces are under immediate discussion because they were once the mainstay of the Pattani Sultanate and are highly desirous of the return of that Sultanate today. Plus they are the ones where most of the problems happen.

Songkla and Satun are rather quiet all things considering until bombs detonate or terrorists start shooting up Hatyai.

I know a fair bit about Thai Muslim ethnicity perhaps more than you or parhaps less than you. This is not a topic of this thread...who knows more or what or less.

I live in Krabi these days having moved here from Phuket 4 years ago, where I moved to after 10 years in Bangkok. I have lived in Southeast Asia for 42 years son and have many more years left as far as an old fart can determine.

I will apologise to you for not explaining "Southern Provinces" in a manner in which you understand

I read history...lots of it and I live in the present to hopefully assist future history readers.

You have a great day.

And you have a great day, too.

Well...Well...we have a supposed expert here do we?

Ha ha. Not really.

Not to be disrespectful to you but if you have been keeping up with the "Southern Discomfort" you may well understand that the provinces we are discussing are...

1. Narathiwat.

2. Yala.

3. Pattani.

4. Songkla.

5. Satun.

We are not discussing Satun. No one is. The province was officially given to Thailand in 1909. The Anglo-Siamese treaty decreed that the former Sultanate of Kedah was to be split in such a way that Kedah would be "awarded" to Malaysia and Satun would be "awarded" to Siam. There is no history of insurgency in Satun.

Songkla and Satun are rather quiet all things considering until bombs detonate or terrorists start shooting up Hatyai.

Two or three sub-districts of Songklha were part of what you refer to as the "Pattani Sultante". Not everywhere in Songkhla is safe.

I know a fair bit about Thai Muslim ethnicity perhaps more than you or parhaps less than you.

All Muslims in Thailand are ethnically Malay. All of them. Those in Bangkok are descended from their brethren in Pattani.

I live in Krabi these days having moved here from Phuket 4 years ago, where I moved to after 10 years in Bangkok. I have lived in Southeast Asia for 42 years son and have many more years left as far as an old fart can determine.

Ha ha. Enjoy Thailand!!

[simple1]

@amusingbellydancers Quote "All Muslims in Thailand are ethnically Malay. All of them. Those in Bangkok are descended from their brethren in Pattani"

Are you 100% sure as my wife is a Sunni Thai Muslim, with a family surname from India going back generations. Also there are Thai nationals who are Muslims, but with family history from China and Cambodia.

[MaiChai]

One country one Thailand, but almost all Thais have an interesting cultural heritage that is not Ayuttaya Siamese? And most Thais speak their local parsah baan?

[sunshine51]

@Amusing belly dancers...

I hope you had a nice evening...good shag & a sleep I trust?

BTW...I always have a great day.

On with the rest shall we....

You're correct when it comes to TV not discussing Satun. Satun is quiet as

far as the "troubles" go. I just named it since it borders Malaysia. However

if push comes to shove in a conflict please do not think that Satun will

not be involved.

As for Songkla yes not everywhere is safe so you're correct there too.

However....provincial districts to the east to south are the most affected.

Then there's Hatyai, kinda in the middle of the northern part of

the province....not safe but perhaps much safer in terms of daily deaths

inflicted by terrorists if compared to Narathiwat, Pattani and Yala.

Mind you Hatyai was again attacked on 31 March just a short while

before Songkran...car bombs.

"All Muslims in Thailand are ethnically Malay. All of them. Those in Bangkok

are descended from their brethren in Pattani."....

I'm not entirely convinced what you say is true. Many Thai Muslims are also

of Acehnese descent as are many Malay's. You must consider the spread

of Islam from the Middle East, through India (I will omit Africa for brevity),

through Sumatra & Java (in the very early days), then throughout the Malay

Peninsula, again further eastwards through what is nowadays known

pretty much as the entire Indonesian Archepelago into the islands of the

Southern Philippines where the spread of Islam was pretty much halted

by the Spanish (Catholics) who had been in the Philippines for quite some

time by then...it was a Spanish colony at the time. Islam didn't magically

appear in the Malay Peninsula...it was brought to said peninsula by Indian

Muslims before the Arabs arrived many years later. There's a place in the

Malaysian State of Kedah that's a historical monument to the arrival

of Islam in the country...I apologise that right off hand I cannot remember

the name of this place. Mind you there are a couple well kept old graves

there for one to peruse should one choose to visit. If my memory serves

me well these days the graves belong to the first Muslim Sultan in Malaya.

Islam first arrived in Malaya (todays Malaysia) via the Kuala Muda River

at a place known today as Tanjung Dawai.

Be advised that Hinduism was in Malaya long before Islam was and that's

why the Malaysian State of Kedah is of such archaeological importance.

There was a thriving city there a very long time ago built on a scale just

a bit smaller than the Borobudor complex on Java. There's much left to

still be discovered.

And just what denotes an "Ethnic Malay"; are you refering to the Orang Asli?

They are THE only indigenous people of the Peninsula. All the rest came

from all points of the compass over many, many years. Remember...before

Islam arrived Hinduism was already established on the peninsula and many

other folks way back then were pagans, animists and the rest of the gamut of

man invented dieties to worship when things got tough.

The Chinese also arrived on the Malay peninsula long before Islam arrived.

They were trading with the local folks and spreading their influence long

before the first boat load of Indian Muslims arrived at Tanjung Dawai.

So just what is an "Ethnic Malay"? Pretty much a human being of mixed

ethnicities ....just like most of the rest of us.

Enjoy LOS? Yes I do...thank you very much.