Sondhi jailed two years, fined Bt200,000 for defaming Gen Mongkol

The Nation

RAYONG: -- The Rayong Provincial Court Wednesday sentenced Sondhi Limthongkul, the founder of Manager Group and yellow-shirt leader, to two years in jai for defaming Gen Mongkol Ampornpisit, former chairman of the TPI Polene rehabilitation committee.

The court also ordered Sondhi to pay a compensation of Bt200,000 plus 7.5 per cent interest per annum from August 21, 2007 when the lawsuit was filed.

Mongkol stated in the lawsuit that Sondhi defamed him during the Yam Fao Pandin political talk show program on May 25 2007. The program was aired on Cable TVs, some radio stations and Internet.

The suit said Sondhi defamed Mongkol by alleging him with abusing his authority to siphon money from TPI, which has changed name to IRPC Plc, by paying huge salary to himself and paying a huge management fee to an advisory firm.

-- The Nation 2012-08-08

Most probably Sondhi spoke the truth.....but....as we know....only the reds are allowed to speak the "truth".

I assume he's out on bail.

So if he flees the country now to avoid his sentence will he be given a visa to the USA and warmly welcomed by the Thai embassy in Washington?

Edited August 8, 201213 yr by Jingthing

I assume he's out on bail.

Again and again. How many 1st offense this time?

So if he flees the country now to avoid his sentence will he be given a visa to the USA and warmly welcomed by the Thai embassy in Washington?

Only cowards flee this country.

so the already convicted to jail sondhi once again gets convicted and handed a custodial sentence, but as yet has not served one day behind bars.

One rule for the rich and one for the poor, and before someone bleats about thakisn etc I already know

I assume he's out on bail.

Again and again. How many 1st offense this time?

For hijacking an airport u get free,u tell somebody he or she is an a..,u get 2 yrs

Assuming guilty as charged, hope he's behind bars soon. Besides that bringing justice, be good to have the "but Sondhi..." button deactivated from all those "red" keyboards.

so the already convicted to jail sondhi once again gets convicted and handed a custodial sentence, but as yet has not served one day behind bars.

One rule fort he rich and one for the poor, and before someone bleats about thakisn etc I already know

Difference being that Sondhi seemingly evades justice by his lawyers working within the legal system. Annoying yes, but annoyance surely should be with the failings of the legal system, more than anything.

Thaksin on the other hand promised to abide by the court ruling, then he tried bribing the judges via lawyers, and then he skipped bail and has been on the run since. No doubt if he does ever grow a pair and come back, my annoyance will switch to the system which no doubt will never enforce the two year penalty promised, but until then, my annoyance remains with him. It's an annoyance many here don't seem to share. One rule for the rich they support, one rule for the rich they don't.

He will be welcome by Kun Thaksin ...

So if he flees the country now to avoid his sentence will he be given a visa to the USA and warmly welcomed by the Thai embassy in Washington?

Why 2 years and 200k. Why not 2 minutes and 20mn?

Odd decisions all the time.

so the already convicted to jail sondhi once again gets convicted and handed a custodial sentence, but as yet has not served one day behind bars.

One rule fort he rich and one for the poor, and before someone bleats about thakisn etc I already know

Difference being that Sondhi seemingly evades justice by his lawyers working within the legal system. Annoying yes, but annoyance surely should be with the failings of the legal system, more than anything.

Thaksin on the other hand promised to abide by the court ruling, then he tried bribing the judges via lawyers, and then he skipped bail and has been on the run since. No doubt if he does ever grow a pair and come back, my annoyance will switch to the system which no doubt will never enforce the two year penalty promised, but until then, my annoyance remains with him. It's an annoyance many here don't seem to share. One rule for the rich they support, one rule for the rich they don't.

Well some posters are happy to say the legal system works, and then change to it being corrupt when it goes against their own man, it is either fair or it isn't. We already know the system is not fair so it makes me laugh when people assume it was all hunky dory when it was dealing with Thakisn.

Sondhi will never serve a day behind bars and neither will Thakisn, Thaksin however did the smart thing and got out before he was stitched up with anything else, seemingly something the rest of the world accepts as he is free to travel almost anywhere.

One down a few more people to go ... ?

I assume he's out on bail.

Again and again. How many 1st offense this time?

For hijacking an airport u get free,u tell somebody he or she is an a..,u get 2 yrs

Hijacking an airport?

Where did they fly it to?

So is he out on bail or not?

Well some posters are happy to say the legal system works, and then change to it being corrupt when it goes against their own man, it is either fair or it isn't. We already know the system is not fair so it makes me laugh when people assume it was all hunky dory when it was dealing with Thakisn.

Sondhi will never serve a day behind bars and neither will Thakisn, Thaksin however did the smart thing and got out before he was stitched up with anything else, seemingly something the rest of the world accepts as he is free to travel almost anywhere.

Well some posters are happy to say the legal system works, and then change to it being corrupt when it goes against their own man, it is either fair or it isn't.

Which is the exact, precise thing you are doing. Thaksin stitched up?! Give me a break. It was an open and shut case. Black and white. Was it his signature? Yes it was. He has never denied guilt. And he tried to bribe the courts, in case you missed that - don't you think regardless of guilt or innocence, people who do that should be penalised heavily, especially ex-Prime Ministers? Besides running away, is there a more disrespectfully crude act against the courts than stuffing a box with cash and trying to buy your way out of trouble. I doubt it. Yet you don't seem to be batting a myopic eye-lid.

so the already convicted to jail sondhi once again gets convicted and handed a custodial sentence, but as yet has not served one day behind bars.

One rule fort he rich and one for the poor, and before someone bleats about thakisn etc I already know

Difference being that Sondhi seemingly evades justice by his lawyers working within the legal system. Annoying yes, but annoyance surely should be with the failings of the legal system, more than anything.

Thaksin on the other hand promised to abide by the court ruling, then he tried bribing the judges via lawyers, and then he skipped bail and has been on the run since. No doubt if he does ever grow a pair and come back, my annoyance will switch to the system which no doubt will never enforce the two year penalty promised, but until then, my annoyance remains with him. It's an annoyance many here don't seem to share. One rule for the rich they support, one rule for the rich they don't.

Well some posters are happy to say the legal system works, and then change to it being corrupt when it goes against their own man, it is either fair or it isn't. We already know the system is not fair so it makes me laugh when people assume it was all hunky dory when it was dealing with Thakisn.

Sondhi will never serve a day behind bars and neither will Thakisn, Thaksin however did the smart thing and got out before he was stitched up with anything else, seemingly something the rest of the world accepts as he is free to travel almost anywhere.

Law is not your strongest point is guess. You could be a murderer in 1 country and be safe in another country. You could steal 50 billion from 1 country and spend it in another country. Ever heard about jurisdiction?

Who knows how much pressure this government is putting on other countries to allow this fugitive to enter.

Calling a criminal on the run smart, while he has spread terror and death from a safe haven, explains a lot about your ethics and judgment.

Edited August 8, 201213 yr by Nickymaster

so the already convicted to jail sondhi once again gets convicted and handed a custodial sentence, but as yet has not served one day behind bars.

One rule fort he rich and one for the poor, and before someone bleats about thakisn etc I already know

So why do you waste your time?

Law is not your strongest point is guess. You could be a murderer in 1 country and be safe in another country. You could steal 50 billion from 1 country and spend it in another country. Ever heard about jurisdiction?

Who knows how much pressure this government is putting on other countries to allow this fugitive to enter.

Calling a criminal on the run smart, while he has spread terror and death from a safe haven, explains a lot about your ethics and judgment.

It comes from a desperate place. When Thaksin was being denied visas, it was all part of a global scale conspiracy against him and said nothing about the validity of his sentence. Now that he is being granted them, suddenly they are held up as proof positive that he must be innocent.

Doesn't really take a genius to work out that cases such as these, are all about diplomacy. With Thaksin's party in power, doors now open, with Thaksin's party out of power, doors close, just as they did when the Dems were in charge. And they'll do so again, if and when Thaksin's party lose power.

Thaksin however did the smart thing and got out before he was stitched up with anything else, seemingly something the rest of the world accepts as he is free to travel almost anywhere.

Thaksin didn't get stitched up with anything Carra, he is and was a genuine corrupt crook and deserves to be behind bars!

Not really sure why everyone gets so fired up about all this red/yellow BS, perhaps the notion that there are different laws for the rich has excaped many? If you are in political power here you get off, if the other mobs in then there could be problems (but not necessarily).

I mean how many high and low profile bankers in the West are sitting in jail for obvious and uncontestable fraud...none and that is regardless of who is in power as that pump money into all parties. That the rich or connected live by different rules makes no geographical difference as money buys every system.

Have a beer and relax, remember that blood pressure.

Assuming guilty as charged, hope he's behind bars soon. Besides that bringing justice, be good to have the "but Sondhi..." button deactivated from all those "red" keyboards.

"The suit said Sondhi defamed Mongkol by alleging him with abusing his authority to siphon money from TPI, which has changed name to IRPC Plc, by paying huge salary to himself and paying a huge management fee to an advisory firm."

I assume that he is not guilty by any common sense. Only by some weird Thai law.

I would complete understand some punishment for taking the airport or the government house, but for telling something that is 99.9 % surely the true is a shame.

Not really sure why everyone gets so fired up about all this red/yellow BS, perhaps the notion that there are different laws for the rich has excaped many? If you are in political power here you get off, if the other mobs in then there could be problems (but not necessarily).

I mean how many high and low profile bankers in the West are sitting in jail for obvious and uncontestable fraud...none and that is regardless of who is in power as that pump money into all parties. That the rich or connected live by different rules makes no geographical difference as money buys every system.

Have a beer and relax, remember that blood pressure.

In America, in jail for fraud, all bankers or invetment brokers. Nicholas Cosmo 50 years, Bernard Madoff 150 years, James Lewis 30 years, Peter Lombardi 20 years, Raymond James 15 years and Allen Stanford 110 years. That's just the short list and only America. I think you may have have been mistaken.

So if he flees the country now to avoid his sentence will he be given a visa to the USA and warmly welcomed by the Thai embassy in Washington?

Only cowards flee this country.

If a political leader has been the object of a military and vested power group's plot to overthrow and sabotage his/her democratically elected government, it would be the wise decision to relocate until such time as the conspiracy can be contained. It is better to be alive and in action so as to continue the the struggle for freedom and democracy than to be a political prisoner. Many political leaders have gone into exile only to return to a triumphant victory. Before a man named Adams became POTUS, he sought political refuge in France, Leaders of the French, Polish and Dutch governments sought refuge in England during the 1940's, Ho Chi Minh and Prince Sihanouk both fled to Vietnam and Cambodia respectively. African leaders frequently seek refuge in neighboring countries when subject to a coup. If not for the hospitality of the EU, many South African government figures would have languished in jail, etc. etc.

There have been many cases of foreigners fleeing Thailand for their personal safety as they face extortion or threats of violence. I hastily left Indonesia after a failed kidnap attempt. Does this make them or me cowards or prudent?

If someone is unable to obtain a fair trial and is subject to a dangerous environment ith his personal safety at stake , it makes sense to leave until the situation has calmed. If there is a political goal at stake, then there are valid reasons to continue the struggle elsewhere. Better to be alive and functioning than to be dead.

So if he flees the country now to avoid his sentence will he be given a visa to the USA and warmly welcomed by the Thai embassy in Washington?

Only cowards flee this country.

If a political leader has been the object of a military and vested power group's plot to overthrow and sabotage his/her democratically elected government, it would be the wise decision to relocate until such time as the conspiracy can be contained. It is better to be alive and in action so as to continue the the struggle for freedom and democracy than to be a political prisoner. Many political leaders have gone into exile only to return to a triumphant victory. Before a man named Adams became POTUS, he sought political refuge in France, Leaders of the French, Polish and Dutch governments sought refuge in England during the 1940's, Ho Chi Minh and Prince Sihanouk both fled to Vietnam and Cambodia respectively. African leaders frequently seek refuge in neighboring countries when subject to a coup. If not for the hospitality of the EU, many South African government figures would have languished in jail, etc. etc.

There have been many cases of foreigners fleeing Thailand for their personal safety as they face extortion or threats of violence. I hastily left Indonesia after a failed kidnap attempt. Does this make them or me cowards or prudent?

If someone is unable to obtain a fair trial and is subject to a dangerous environment ith his personal safety at stake , it makes sense to leave until the situation has calmed. If there is a political goal at stake, then there are valid reasons to continue the struggle elsewhere. Better to be alive and functioning than to be dead.

A failed kidnap attempt? A man of action! my oh my....

Some off-topic posts have been removed. Please keep in mind that this thread is not about Thaksin.

So if he flees the country now to avoid his sentence will he be given a visa to the USA and warmly welcomed by the Thai embassy in Washington?

Only cowards flee this country.

If the Reds get out of control there will be a lot of cowardly farangs fleeing.

Not really sure why everyone gets so fired up about all this red/yellow BS, perhaps the notion that there are different laws for the rich has excaped many? If you are in political power here you get off, if the other mobs in then there could be problems (but not necessarily).

I mean how many high and low profile bankers in the West are sitting in jail for obvious and uncontestable fraud...none and that is regardless of who is in power as that pump money into all parties. That the rich or connected live by different rules makes no geographical difference as money buys every system.

Have a beer and relax, remember that blood pressure.

In America, in jail for fraud, all bankers or invetment brokers. Nicholas Cosmo 50 years, Bernard Madoff 150 years, James Lewis 30 years, Peter Lombardi 20 years, Raymond James 15 years and Allen Stanford 110 years. That's just the short list and only America. I think you may have have been mistaken.

Er. Ever hear about Ernest Saunders?

So if he flees the country now to avoid his sentence will he be given a visa to the USA and warmly welcomed by the Thai embassy in Washington?

Only cowards flee this country.

If a political leader has been the object of a military and vested power group's plot to overthrow and sabotage his/her democratically elected government, it would be the wise decision to relocate until such time as the conspiracy can be contained. It is better to be alive and in action so as to continue the the struggle for freedom and democracy than to be a political prisoner. Many political leaders have gone into exile only to return to a triumphant victory. Before a man named Adams became POTUS, he sought political refuge in France, Leaders of the French, Polish and Dutch governments sought refuge in England during the 1940's, Ho Chi Minh and Prince Sihanouk both fled to Vietnam and Cambodia respectively. African leaders frequently seek refuge in neighboring countries when subject to a coup. If not for the hospitality of the EU, many South African government figures would have languished in jail, etc. etc.

There have been many cases of foreigners fleeing Thailand for their personal safety as they face extortion or threats of violence. I hastily left Indonesia after a failed kidnap attempt. Does this make them or me cowards or prudent?

If someone is unable to obtain a fair trial and is subject to a dangerous environment ith his personal safety at stake , it makes sense to leave until the situation has calmed. If there is a political goal at stake, then there are valid reasons to continue the struggle elsewhere. Better to be alive and functioning than to be dead.

If I recall right he was NOT democratically elected when the coup happened and when he jumped bail HIS party was in power not the army. And it wasn't for concerns about his safety, it was because he lost a rather trivial case in court, which he could have appealed. Which he didn't because the case was so 100 % clear that there was no chance of wining it.